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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2022 10:49:48 GMT -5
Many Oasis songs are 'poppy' too. Wonderwall, She's Electric,...
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 21, 2022 11:11:37 GMT -5
No shot. You release the song and video same day and time most likely. Defo or no point these days. People will just rip the audio from YouTube prior to official release if video before airplay. Yep. That’s exactly what happened in 2008 with TSOTL. Hit radio almost 2 months before you could buy it physically or on iTunes yet you could rip the audio from video or bootleg it from radio dial. Dinosaur ethos for them. |
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Post by mancraider on Jan 21, 2022 11:37:47 GMT -5
Can i just be the first to say..
EE.
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Post by sheisloved on Jan 21, 2022 11:41:26 GMT -5
Willing to bet big that Everything’s electric will be the opener on the new album ! Would not surprise me either |
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Post by sheisloved on Jan 21, 2022 11:44:45 GMT -5
I'm not the biggest fan of Wall of Glass or Shockwave. I skip both whenever I go through Liams stuff. So I would gladly take a poppy song at this point for a first single.
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Post by Teotihuacan on Jan 21, 2022 11:49:38 GMT -5
That’s exactly what happened in 2008 with TSOTL. Hit radio almost 2 months before you could buy it physically Remarkable that it didn't hurt, to that great an extent, in the UK chart positions though. I just checked now and even with shit b-side(s) The shock of the lighning entered at no 3 in Oct 2008 behind KOL's giant hit Intercourse on fire and a tune I haven't heard by (which one's) Pink at no 1. The "Oasis" brand name really did count for a lot it seems. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 21, 2022 12:05:29 GMT -5
That’s exactly what happened in 2008 with TSOTL. Hit radio almost 2 months before you could buy it physically Remarkable that it didn't hurt, to that great an extent, in the UK chart positions though. I just checked now and even with shit b-side(s) The shock of the lighning entered at no 3 in Oct 2008 behind KOL's giant hit Intercourse on fire and a tune I haven't heard by (which one's) Pink at no 1. The "Oasis" brand name really did count for a lot it seems. Never doubt the power of the Oasis legions of fans. That song SHOULD have been a #1. |
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Post by shadowplay on Jan 21, 2022 12:28:57 GMT -5
As much as I love Liam's solo work so far they have played it extremely safe at all times, particularly when it comes to the singles. I don't think this is going to have a radically different vibe in terms of poppiness to anything else we've heard so far, it'll either be a WoG type song or something like FWIW, I wouldn't worry about it not being to your particular tastes. If you've been a fan of his work so far you'll like this.
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Post by jh on Jan 21, 2022 12:36:02 GMT -5
As much as I love Liam's solo work so far they have played it extremely safe at all times, particularly when it comes to the singles. I don't think this is going to have a radically different vibe in terms of poppiness to anything else we've heard so far, it'll either be a WoG type song or something like FWIW, I wouldn't worry about it not being to your particular tastes. If you've been a fan of his work so far you'll like this. We will all be dribbling to hear any leak...just poppy always seems a pretty shit description in my mind. If we get another Now That I've Found You I personally will feel a little cheated after such a long wait. Glad it's a short wait from the announcement though! After hearing Liam at top form with his last single...I really want a change of pace kick the doors off tune... |
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Post by tiger40 on Jan 21, 2022 13:55:22 GMT -5
I won't post a link to it because its the Sun, but that Simon Boyle has some fucking nerve. I know its nothing new for a Sun journalist to have zero integrity but he's writing that he's a "lifelong Oasis fan" and giving Liam all kinds of superlatives. This is a man who for the last couple of years has (alongside Dan Wootton) tried to ruin Liam with the total non-story of the drunken video with Debbie. Literally any article of the past couple of years he's tried to shoehorn it in somewhere and he even went as far as to say he will "never stop reminding everyone" about it. Now he's realised it's gone nowhere he's a lifelong fan. Unbelievable. Well, what do you expect from The Scum. The journalists for this toilet paper are always full of shit anyway. But I get your point about this Simon Doyle guy who's supposed to be a long life Oasis fan. |
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Post by tiger40 on Jan 21, 2022 13:58:18 GMT -5
Willing to bet big that Everything’s electric will be the opener on the new album ! Agreed and I wouldn't be at all surprised if it is. |
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Post by tiger40 on Jan 21, 2022 14:02:55 GMT -5
As for the new single which is supposed to be poppy, well we'll just have to wait and see. However,even though I would prefer a rock tune for the first single, I would still be happy with a poppy one as it's been far too long since we've had new music from Liam and I just want to hear new stuff from him.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jan 21, 2022 17:26:43 GMT -5
Many Oasis songs are 'poppy' too. Wonderwall, She's Electric,... Er ... but Liam didn’t write any of these songs – and if you said “Noel Gallagher has written a poppy new song” I would have a completely different expectation of that in my mind based on what he has done in the past. But with Wyatt it can be something else (like “Glimmer,” on which he was listed as a writer but may or may not have actually written. And yes I know some people like that kind of bubblegum pop but it's not my personal thing, which is all I am saying, and it's absolute lightyears away on every level from Wonderwall. Wonderwall is also usually considered a ballad which is a whole other category, but apparently EIE is not one.) Anyway as noted in the original post there are many widely differing definitions of poppy.. Also as noted, none of us has a remote clue what this song actually sounds like and the word “poppy” came secondhand from a single person that none of us knows. No point in debating a fictional song.  Soon enough we can debate the real thing. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2022 17:38:56 GMT -5
Many Oasis songs are 'poppy' too. Wonderwall, She's Electric,... Er ... but Liam didn’t write any of these songs – and if you said “Noel Gallagher has written a poppy new song” I would have a completely different expectation of that in my mind based on what he has done in the past. But with Wyatt it can be something else (like “Glimmer,” on which he was listed as a writer but may or may not have actually written. And yes I know some people like that kind of bubblegum pop but it's not my personal thing, which is all I am saying, and it's absolute lightyears away on every level from Wonderwall. Wonderwall is also usually considered a ballad which is a whole other category, but apparently EIE is not one.) Anyway as noted in the original post there are many widely differing definitions of poppy.. Also as noted, none of us has a remote clue what this song actually sounds like and the word “poppy” came secondhand from a single person that none of us knows. No point in debating a fictional song.  Soon enough we can debate the real thing. My post was just an observation about songs that I would call poppy too, because we all have a different idea what that could mean. I wasn't debating anything? |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 21, 2022 17:49:27 GMT -5
I don’t care what the style. Just be good.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jan 21, 2022 18:10:06 GMT -5
My post was just an observation about songs that I would call poppy too, because we all have a different idea what that could mean. I wasn't debating anything? Converse if you prefer then. It's all meaningless anyway. What matters is not really if the song is poppy or RnR or rock-pop but if it's good ... p.s. Jinx Lennon2217 |
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Post by andymorris on Jan 22, 2022 1:16:31 GMT -5
Many Oasis songs are 'poppy' too. Wonderwall, She's Electric,... Er ... but Liam didn’t write any of these songs – and if you said “Noel Gallagher has written a poppy new song” I would have a completely different expectation of that in my mind based on what he has done in the past. But with Wyatt it can be something else (like “Glimmer,” on which he was listed as a writer but may or may not have actually written. And yes I know some people like that kind of bubblegum pop but it's not my personal thing, which is all I am saying, and it's absolute lightyears away on every level from Wonderwall. Wonderwall is also usually considered a ballad which is a whole other category, but apparently EIE is not one.) Anyway as noted in the original post there are many widely differing definitions of poppy.. Also as noted, none of us has a remote clue what this song actually sounds like and the word “poppy” came secondhand from a single person that none of us knows. No point in debating a fictional song. Soon enough we can debate the real thing. I fuckin love Glimmer. It's fresh and unexpected from Liam. It has that kinda The Thrills feel to it. Of course he didn't write it though, no need to speculate.  |
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Post by andymorris on Jan 22, 2022 1:34:11 GMT -5
The perfect album for Liam to sing would be the new Miles Kane record. It would have been gold. Listen to that LP guys, it's fantastic.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jan 22, 2022 2:11:24 GMT -5
I fuckin love Glimmer. It's fresh and unexpected from Liam. It has that kinda The Thrills feel to it. Of course he didn't write it though, no need to speculate.  It’s great … for the theme song to an early 80s American sitcom about two kooky, heartwarming friends. I'm actually pleased that you enjoy something LG did, but as someone once said … not for me mate. It's a nice melody and I like the "shine on baby" idea but the way it's done it's too sickly sweet and bubble gum retro for Liam -- and wouldn't think that's what he needs to do something special in the current charts. Credits on Glimmer are longer than most: Gallagher, Tighe, Wyatt, Veis and Veis. I’d kinda guess lyrics are mostly Liam and the original tune came from the Veis brothers since they did that kind of thing, but in a lo-fi way that made it more indie and quirky, as The Glamorous Lifesavers. Well, whatever EE sounds like they obviously have a lot of faith in it to premiere it live at the Brits. |
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Post by andymorris on Jan 22, 2022 2:20:15 GMT -5
Well, whatever EE sounds like they obviously have a lot of faith in it to premiere it live at the Brits. Yes, and it means it's definitely not a rock n roll song, since the Brits don't do that anymore and havent for a long, long time. Or maybe RNR is back ?! who knows. |
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Post by Rolo on Jan 22, 2022 3:19:03 GMT -5
Although I'm not a huge fan of Glimmer, I'm glad Liam is singing things you wouldn't expect him to. Hope there is more of that on the new album, little unexpected treats. Things that catch you off guard.
Alright Now is another one I'd put in that conversation, pretty different style to what we usually hear him sing and it's become of my favourite post Oasis tunes.
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jan 22, 2022 4:23:27 GMT -5
Although I'm not a huge fan of Glimmer, I'm glad Liam is singing things you wouldn't expect him to. Hope there is more of that on the new album, little unexpected treats. Things that catch you off guard. Alright Now is another one I'd put in that conversation, pretty different style to what we are hearing him sing and it's become of my favourite post Oasis tunes. Alright Now is a good song, subtle and warm, and though it doesn’t sound like anything a Gallagher has written it is pretty Beatles-y to me so it’s easy to see Liam connecting to it at least in the studio (but has he ever performed it live?) Great lyrics. Also rare for Liam to do a piano song even though his voice does something cool with that vibe. It's also a Wyatt credit … and since Wyatt said on his podcast he was trying to ease Liam into new areas while keeping the fan base happy on CYK, think you'll probably find more of the lightly unexpected ... though unexpected in what way, who knows? |
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Post by Rolo on Jan 22, 2022 4:43:05 GMT -5
Although I'm not a huge fan of Glimmer, I'm glad Liam is singing things you wouldn't expect him to. Hope there is more of that on the new album, little unexpected treats. Things that catch you off guard. Alright Now is another one I'd put in that conversation, pretty different style to what we are hearing him sing and it's become of my favourite post Oasis tunes. Alright Now is a good song, subtle and warm, and though it doesn’t sound like anything a Gallagher has written it is pretty Beatles-y to me so it’s easy to see Liam connecting to it at least in the studio (but has he ever performed it live?) Great lyrics. Also rare for Liam to do a piano song even though his voice does something cool with that vibe. It's also a Wyatt credit … and since Wyatt said on his podcast he was trying to ease Liam into new areas while keeping the fan base happy on CYK, think you'll probably find more of the lightly unexpected ... though unexpected in what way, who knows? Closest we've got is: But I'm convinced that's just the studio vocal take with everything else stripped back. |
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Post by modxxii on Jan 22, 2022 5:31:28 GMT -5
I'm not interested in the genre (rock or pop), if it's going to be beautiful I'm happy. And considering Liam a singer ... I love it when he measures up to songs like Alright Now. The only thing I hope is that the tunes are not too high, it seems to me that he does not give the best of himself. In my opinion in the last tune with RA he sings as well as almost never since Oasis.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2022 5:38:39 GMT -5
Although I'm not a huge fan of Glimmer, I'm glad Liam is singing things you wouldn't expect him to. Hope there is more of that on the new album, little unexpected treats. Things that catch you off guard. Alright Now is another one I'd put in that conversation, pretty different style to what we usually hear him sing and it's become of my favourite post Oasis tunes. Alright Now is one of my favorites too, I love it. It seems to be the kind of song some fans don't care for, but I like hearing him sing different styles too. |
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Soon enough we can debate the real thing. 
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