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Post by jorgendif on Jun 4, 2022 7:04:46 GMT -5
Meanwhile in Sweden: • Very few mainstream media outlets reviewed C'mon You Know. None of the big newspapers or tabloids did. • The only local newspaper review I did find gave it 2/5 • The album is not top 60 in overall sales • It is third in vinyl sales, after Def Leppard and Harry Styles Its sad. Really sad. The media has its own agenda. Yet he sold out his show 2019. God knows why noone here buys his records. Do you know how NGHFB has done here? |
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Post by Lundblad on Jun 4, 2022 7:12:23 GMT -5
Meanwhile in Sweden: • Very few mainstream media outlets reviewed C'mon You Know. None of the big newspapers or tabloids did. • The only local newspaper review I did find gave it 2/5 • The album is not top 60 in overall sales • It is third in vinyl sales, after Def Leppard and Harry Styles Its sad. Really sad. The media has its own agenda. Yet he sold out his show 2019. God knows why noone here buys his records. Do you know how NGHFB has done here? I should point out that CMYK has charted #7 in physical sales, so my picture may have been a bit too bleak. NGHFB charted #21. CY charted #49. |
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Post by jorgendif on Jun 4, 2022 7:45:53 GMT -5
Its sad. Really sad. The media has its own agenda. Yet he sold out his show 2019. God knows why noone here buys his records. Do you know how NGHFB has done here? I should point out that CMYK has charted #7 in physical sales, so my picture may have been a bit too bleak. NGHFB charted #21. CY charted #49. Its just sad |
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Post by Mario on Jun 4, 2022 10:56:09 GMT -5
Turning in my homework late for partial credit..
More Power- 10
Favorite track on the album. This one grabbed me.
Liam’s other solo albums start with the radio friendly singles.
This one really builds up and grooves through to the end.
Bold move to put this one on first.
I would expect LG to put a track like this on the back end of an album, but an incredible way to start an album.
Diamond in the Dark- 7.5
Love hate relationship with this song.
It builds up so nicely.
Then it gets to the chorus and I really dislike the melody there. Takes me out of the song completely.
The bridge after the chorus is awesome.
This song could have been a 10 with a bit more time in the oven.
Don’t Go Halfway- 6.5
Come On You Know- 7.5
The highlight of this song is the outro. It has this psychedelic blues vibe that I love!
“Yeah!.....Yeahaa”
That saxophone sounds great. Gives me “The Right Stuff” vibes. One of my favorite NGHFB tracks.
Too Good for Giving Up- 6
It Was Not Meant To Be- 5
Everything’s Electric- 7
Another song that could have been amazing with more time in the oven. Sounds like 3 great melodies shoehorned into one song.
World’s in Need- 7
I love the part where Liam sings “Back on Top, We’ll Never Let You Down”
Definitely some Beady Eye vibes.
This album has quite a few catchy brilliant moments.
Moscow Rules- 6.5
Seems a good number of you liked this one.
Glad to hear it. It’s got a few interesting bits. But overall not a song I feel the urge to play again.
I’m Free- 7
It’s impressive how the song navigates between two genres.
Liam + Reggae is something I’ve been pretty excited about since he covered that Bob Marley track. Liam’s singing adds some melodic edge to Reggae. More of this, please!
Better Days- 6
This is not the song that deserved a rooftop video. The thing with this song (& DITD for that matter) is that they both have promising verses that build up, but the choruses comes out very subdued.
Oh Sweet Children- 5
Was this the actual closer? The next two tracks are kilometers better!
Not having this one at all.
The Joker- 8.5
I’ve been playing this one over and over.
I love the catchy, upbeat melody with the dark lyrics.
Very cool how LG wrote a song inspired by The Joker (I think).
This sounds very radio friendly. A shame that it’s a bonus track.
Wave- 8
Utter Filth
I love how the drums start and stop. There’s some fiddling around with the Liam RnR formula on this album and I’m enjoying it.
“My brrother don’t like mee”
Name dropping pretty green?
I’ll pay any ticket price to hear LG sing this song live.
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COYK is a decent album with some brilliant moments.
I love how he’s experimenting with different micro genre’s into his Rock n Roll bag.
I’m hoping it’s his best selling solo album and people love it.
It’s got a lot to offer.
I’m having it.
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Post by garylineker on Jun 4, 2022 11:43:28 GMT -5
Are you sure that if he made a LP with songs from those 3 EPs, that it would go to number one? I am not that sure. Is it enough that he is just Noel? Do you think that it is the same that if the first two singles that we hear before album is out are We're On Our Way Now and Flying On The Ground or if the first two singles are Blue Moon Rising and This Is The Place? Most of his fans, people who buy records, are Oasis fans and most of them are not very happy with Noel's new music. I am not that sure and I think that now it will depend on how good are the songs we get to hear before album is released. Or maybe it wouldn't be at all about quality but about their style and genre. Many people who were willing to give him a chance with his cosmic pop are probably not ready to give him a chance again. I am not saying that they are right, I just have the feeling that's how it is now. The amount of pre orders they both still get even just by announcing a new album would in most cases get no.1 I don't think This Is The Place was either hated or derided enough to have be seen as a single thatd stop the chances of him getting a number one album. Even as much as Beady Eye albums got slated for sales figures, they were incredibly unlucky not to have 2 number one albums really. The Adele sales were uncanny and they only just missed out to Black Sabbath who are still like gods in the UK to metal fans. |
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Post by garylineker on Jun 4, 2022 11:46:30 GMT -5
One thing Noel pointed out about Beady Eye was "they need a hit". He knows the importance of getting a top 20 single and building on that foundation to ensure good sales for the album. Liams team know how to get this formula now. Its a banker.
Noel less so. I'm still not sold on this idea that Holy Mountain was his most successful single just because it hovered around like #90 for so long. I think having a Wall Of Glass or even Everythings Electric that go in high and fall off with a hell of a lot of radio play is the best way to do things.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 4, 2022 11:56:09 GMT -5
Remember when people wanted Liam to dump his record label just before CMON YOU KNOW? How we feeling folks?
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Post by tiger40 on Jun 4, 2022 13:17:01 GMT -5
Don't know if its already been said but I'm not a fan of releasing the live album at the same time as the studio album. Surely the live album had a great shot at number one if its released on its own in a quiet week. Like the unplugged one did. I know it doesn't matter but itd still be cool to say he has 5 solo number ones. Crazy to think that liam and noel could end up with as many solo number one albums as they did in Oasis by time they retire. But don't forget that if they release a Knebworth album it could go to number one on a quiet week giving Liam his 5th number one album. |
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Post by tiger40 on Jun 4, 2022 13:18:08 GMT -5
Remember when people wanted Liam to dump his record label just before CMON YOU KNOW? How we feeling folks? Good question. |
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Post by garylineker on Jun 4, 2022 14:10:04 GMT -5
Don't know if its already been said but I'm not a fan of releasing the live album at the same time as the studio album. Surely the live album had a great shot at number one if its released on its own in a quiet week. Like the unplugged one did. I know it doesn't matter but itd still be cool to say he has 5 solo number ones. Crazy to think that liam and noel could end up with as many solo number one albums as they did in Oasis by time they retire. But don't forget that if they release a Knebworth album it could go to number one on a quiet week giving Liam his 5th number one album. Could have been 6 then  |
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Post by garylineker on Jun 4, 2022 14:13:20 GMT -5
Remember when people wanted Liam to dump his record label just before CMON YOU KNOW? How we feeling folks? I'm not exactly for this but the people that were for it were saying they don't like Wyatt's singles. I doubt the ones who didn't like them singles particularly changed their minds after hearing the album. What i would say is he shouldn't be against working with a more varied mix in my opinion. I'd certainly welcome more Aldred tunes to be honest. I do like 70% of C'Mon You Know but some of it is just plain wrong for Liam. As much as i do like it and i'm glad we have it i do feel for the first time this is the least solo sounding Liam album. I get that some on here love that and i'm not knocking that. But the First two albums are still my favourites. |
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Post by tiger40 on Jun 4, 2022 17:34:04 GMT -5
But don't forget that if they release a Knebworth album it could go to number one on a quiet week giving Liam his 5th number one album. Could have been 6 then  Maybe but the Down By The River album was a nice little bonus to go with the new album release. |
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Post by fabulousbakers on Jun 4, 2022 17:41:39 GMT -5
Meanwhile in Sweden: • Very few mainstream media outlets reviewed C'mon You Know. None of the big newspapers or tabloids did. • The only local newspaper review I did find gave it 2/5 • The album is not top 60 in overall sales • It is third in vinyl sales, after Def Leppard and Harry Styles Its sad. Really sad. The media has its own agenda. Yet he sold out his show 2019. God knows why noone here buys his records. Do you know how NGHFB has done here? It's done well here Australia in terms of the charts (top 5 I think) but to be honest you don't need to sell many albums here to do that anymore. I've been lucky enough to land a new job but cursed to find the workplace radio station tuned all day to some god awful popular station called Nova. Nearly every male singer they play sounds exactly the same as the one before (not sure if that's just the autotune or not) and Harry Styles get played at least 3 times an hour with endless boasts from the "wacky" announcers about his number one album. The only male singer they play who stands out with distinctive voice is Eminem - everybody else blends together into this endless playlist of turgid, mechanical, power ballad pop. Liam's new album is indeed in the top 10 here in Australia but in five days they haven't bothered to mention him once, let alone determine that a single track from his album is worth playing. |
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Post by garylineker on Jun 4, 2022 17:47:07 GMT -5
To be fair its where you put the effort in as well. I've seen him do much more stuff with Australian media than I ever did before.
Likewise those European countries where he maybe doesn't do as well. No offence but I'm sure no ones going to turn round and say what about Sweden sales 😂
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Post by fabulousbakers on Jun 4, 2022 17:52:21 GMT -5
To be fair its where you put the effort in as well. I've seen him do much more stuff with Australian media than I ever did before. Likewise those European countries where he maybe doesn't do as well. No offence but I'm sure no ones going to turn round and say what about Sweden sales 😂 Yes the Gallaghers were on the nose with the Australian media for a while but that has changed because the TV and radio stations realise they can fill up a five minute slot on their bland shows with a quick interview with Noel and Liam and they'll come on and be instantly funny and amusing. Both still a bit edgy for the TV breakfast crowd but a welcome breathe of fresh air on other shows. To be fair to some of those European markets, if they're predominantly not an English speaking nation then I'm not sure a five minute cross to Noel or Liam being sarcastic and witty is going to translate that well. I'm not sure the majority of TV audiences in America would get their humor either, let alone understand their accents. If all these stations worldwide are only going to give them a couple of minutes, I don't blame Noel or Liam for focusing on countries like Australia where that stuff is at least going to work - even if the market is small. |
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Post by birthdaycakes7 on Jun 4, 2022 18:16:04 GMT -5
Interesting that Nova aren't playing him considering they played FWIW a lot a couple of years ago, LG even went and played their "Nova Red Room". Each tour of Australia LG is doing he's doing bigger and bigger venues, each of his solo albums have debuted 2 positions higher than the previous one so I think he's doing well down here. Especially when you consider that BE charted at #81
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jun 4, 2022 20:09:34 GMT -5
But don't forget that if they release a Knebworth album it could go to number one on a quiet week giving Liam his 5th number one album. Could have been 6 then
Track list for DBTRT versus his current setlist versus MTV Live ...lotsa overlap. There are only so many live albums one can sell with 70% the same songs, especially to casuals.
Knebworth is different because a) a good portion of the 160,000 people who were there will want to own it as a keepsake and b) it is viewed as a cultural event that will be part of Oasis/Gallagher lore.
Thus, smarter to not blow the opportunity to go big on Knebworth by going after more hoopla for DBTRT. They did it wisely--still got it out there but without over exposure.
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Post by garylineker on Jun 4, 2022 20:21:15 GMT -5
Could have been 6 then
Track list for DBTRT versus his current setlist versus MTV Live ...lotsa overlap. There are only so many live albums one can sell with 70% the same songs, especially to casuals.
Knebworth is different because a) a good portion of the 160,000 people who were there will want to own it as a keepsake and b) it is viewed as a cultural event that will be part of Oasis/Gallagher lore.
Thus, smarter to not blow the opportunity to go big on Knebworth by going after more hoopla for DBTRT. They did it wisely--still got it out there but without over exposure.
Again I agree with what you say (I do that with most your posts). But the point about people not wanting to spend money on both still stands. The record company could easily have targetted a week where not much is going on and got him another number one. Not to mention maybe kept the name out there well after all the hype of Knebworth has died down. Just think there was better ways of doing it than this. Seemed like they thought they'd bag him 1 and 2 and be able to say he's done some kind of Ed Sheeran. |
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jun 4, 2022 20:41:52 GMT -5
Again I agree with what you say (I do that with most your posts). But the point about people not wanting to spend money on both still stands. The record company could easily have targetted a week where not much is going on and got him another number one. Not to mention maybe kept the name out there well after all the hype of Knebworth has died down. Just think there was better ways of doing it than this. Seemed like they thought they'd bag him 1 and 2 and be able to say he's done some kind of Ed Sheeran.
Hahaha, the new Ed Sheeran. I honestly don't think they expected to bag 1 and 2 going up against Harry's House. Not that they would have turned it down.
But the thing with releasing it at another time is that if you want a number one you have to do some promo and if he starts doing promo for DBTRT in 5 months from now ... then it kills a bit of the momentum for releasing Knebworth for Christmas 2022 or whenever.
Part of savvy marketing is that you have to maximize the big moments and you have to be careful to not make the average person sick of you. I know it's a hard sell here on this forum that people could ever get sick of Liam but in the larger universe, these things happen. I've watched it happen (not to musicians but to actors.) This was a good way of selling the album without Liam having to even mention it (except when asked.)
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Post by theunderclass on Jun 4, 2022 21:14:18 GMT -5
Plus he couldn’t release it last year due to clashing with Knebworth 1996, he couldn’t release it earlier this year because it would have detracted from album #3, and if he delayed it any longer it was just losing more and more relevance with the concert originally being streamed in December 2020.
Given it seems like the vinyl and CDs were seemingly already pressed a while ago and just sitting around, I think it was a really smart move to release it on the same day.
Remember it’s very rare for a live album to make number one anyway, Knebworth 1996 only made 4.
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Post by supernovas on Jun 5, 2022 3:40:17 GMT -5
COYK is a good album (I bought all available vinyl versions: Red , Blue, Crystal, Deluxe book pack, standard, Blood picture) and I like seeing Liam testing new roads but I think this album is less melodic than 2 previous ones. In general songs are less catchy.
Highlights for me are:
More Power
Diamonds in the dark
Too Good For Giving Up
Moscow Rules
I like Side A of the vinyl, less Side 2 since I don't dive in:
- World's in Need
- I am free (I don't like the reggae part, for me it does not fit with the rest of songs)
- Oh sweet children is also a weak song
- and the 2 singles: EE and BD are nice but not top singles
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Post by Supersonic on Jun 5, 2022 4:51:44 GMT -5
Plus he couldn’t release it last year due to clashing with Knebworth 1996, he couldn’t release it earlier this year because it would have detracted from album #3, and if he delayed it any longer it was just losing more and more relevance with the concert originally being streamed in December 2020. Given it seems like the vinyl and CDs were seemingly already pressed a while ago and just sitting around, I think it was a really smart move to release it on the same day. Remember it’s very rare for a live album to make number one anyway, Knebworth 1996 only made 4. Wasn’t it supposed to be released last year? There were sites with pre-orders, and the River was released before being took down. |
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Post by jh on Jun 5, 2022 16:09:35 GMT -5
Bless you has 320 version has now leaked for all those who are desperate for it....and of course alt version of TGFGU
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Post by PepsiNebula on Jun 5, 2022 17:14:05 GMT -5
COYK is a good album (I bought all available vinyl versions: Red , Blue, Crystal, Deluxe book pack, standard, Blood picture) and I like seeing Liam testing new roads but I think this album is less melodic than 2 previous ones. In general songs are less catchy. Highlights for me are: More Power Diamonds in the dark Too Good For Giving Up Moscow Rules I like Side A of the vinyl, less Side 2 since I don't dive in: - World's in Need - I am free (I don't like the reggae part, for me it does not fit with the rest of songs) - Oh sweet children is also a weak song - and the 2 singles: EE and BD are nice but not top singles I'm the exact opposite of you, haha. I love Diamond in the Dark, but otherwise all my favorite stuff is in the second half. |
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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Jun 6, 2022 6:34:39 GMT -5
after tons of plays
1) More Power: 8
2) Diamond in the Dark: 10 (Rockfield)
3) Don’t Go Halfway: 3
4) C’mon You Know: 7
5) Too Good for Giving Up: 9
6) It Was Not Meant to Be: 6
7) Everything’s Electric: 9
8) World’s in Need: 7
9) Moscow Rules: 6 (great song but the atmosphere is too gloomy for my taste)
10) I’m Free: 7
11) Better Days: 6
12) Oh Sweet Children: 6
13) The Joker: 7
14) Wave: 7
The sound quality in the production is very poor. Played live in the studio (Like at Rockfield) it would probably have turned out to be a masterpiece. Anyway I tried to rate the songs leaving out the quality of the sounds on the record that I don't like
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