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Post by theunderclass on Jun 3, 2022 5:05:12 GMT -5
Care to elaborate about the monkeys ? I'd disagree about the "Liam wouldn’t sing songs he didn’t want". EE was clearly a last minute addition and Liam didnt seem too pleased. Where was it he didn’t seem to pleased? From that Sun interview: “We were finishing the album and I got a phone call to say Dave and Greg had this tune that sounds like the Beastie Boys and the Stones. I thought it was mega, so I banged the vocals down, sent it back and there we go.“ Surprised he’s describing it as mega, choosing it as his comeback single, playing it live every chance and releasing an alternate live version when he isn’t pleased with it. |
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Post by Rivers on Jun 3, 2022 5:22:45 GMT -5
Where was it he didn’t seem to pleased? From that Sun interview: “We were finishing the album and I got a phone call to say Dave and Greg had this tune that sounds like the Beastie Boys and the Stones. I thought it was mega, so I banged the vocals down, sent it back and there we go.“ Surprised he’s describing it as mega, choosing it as his comeback single, playing it live every chance and releasing an alternate live version when he isn’t pleased with it. On the other hand, that quote makes song writing credits suspicious |
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Post by AubreyOasis on Jun 3, 2022 5:48:38 GMT -5
From that Sun interview: “We were finishing the album and I got a phone call to say Dave and Greg had this tune that sounds like the Beastie Boys and the Stones. I thought it was mega, so I banged the vocals down, sent it back and there we go.“ Surprised he’s describing it as mega, choosing it as his comeback single, playing it live every chance and releasing an alternate live version when he isn’t pleased with it. On the other hand, that quote makes song writing credits suspicious Not suspicious... I think it's clear Liam did not have any involvement with writing that song, and he never pretended otherwise. That he appears as co-writer is probably part of the commercial agreement for sharing royalties, etc. Other big names do basically the same nowadays |
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Post by andymorris on Jun 3, 2022 5:59:43 GMT -5
From that Sun interview: “We were finishing the album and I got a phone call to say Dave and Greg had this tune that sounds like the Beastie Boys and the Stones. I thought it was mega, so I banged the vocals down, sent it back and there we go.“ Surprised he’s describing it as mega, choosing it as his comeback single, playing it live every chance and releasing an alternate live version when he isn’t pleased with it. On the other hand, that quote makes song writing credits suspicious Everything about that song is suspicious. Stories dont match, songwriting credit is fake obv. We know that even Noel couldn't really decide about the singles back in Oasis, Lyla being the example. So Liam in a major record label ? Please... Pretty clear this song was added by the label. He's not hating it but he's not loving it either. It's ok, the rest of the LP is fantastic. |
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Post by jh on Jun 3, 2022 6:05:31 GMT -5
The worst photoshopped pic I've seen in the scum on many many a year. Stick his head on a pic from the eithad gig. Jesus they really are gutter scum journos. |
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Post by jh on Jun 3, 2022 6:10:02 GMT -5
Thanks for that. Is it a Japanese bonus track or promo only or something? Actually not that bothered with this track at all after hearing it. It's a good vocal just the song is pretty average. Very much enjoying DGH last few days... spangledike a flag...class |
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Post by eva on Jun 3, 2022 6:29:00 GMT -5
Thanks for that. Is it a Japanese bonus track or promo only or something? it's a bonus track in one of the deluxe editions the Japanese edition has an alternate version of Too Good For Giving Up |
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Post by noeloliam on Jun 3, 2022 6:53:14 GMT -5
The album grew on me after a couple weeks, I have to say. In a way I dig that album for not pretending it's something that it's not.
I can imagine Andrew Wyatt having this dilema : OK, so do I write stuff for Liam, Liam's style and fake it a bit, or do I just write songs that I feel like writing and having fun. I'm kinda glad they went option B on this one, in a way it feels more natural, loose and just fun. At least the songs are good.
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Jun 3, 2022 6:53:59 GMT -5
Hahahaha WBTM vetter than CMYK? Hahaha You have the worst taste in music on the planet... haha just keep those silly opinions to yourself. He's right. Dig Out Your Soul having the same score as Be Here Now, on the other hand... Oh it's not even close. Regarding 'BHN' and 'DOYS' though, I'd would like to add that I believe the former is the somewhat better and more consistent record but I enjoy listening to them approximately the same. I don't believe the 3 weaker tracks on 'DOYS' are anywhere as bad as some make them out to me and I can listen to them really quite breezily whereas some of the perceived big standouts on 'BHN' ('Stand By Me', 'Don't Go Away' & 'All Around the World') though good, aren't really my cup of tea and so the album suffers as a consequence. Not only this but 'BHN's' production and 72 minute run time hold it back too. As Mr. Fantano would put it, to me 'DOYS' is a strong 7 to a light 8, whilst 'BHN' is a solid 8. I'd rank 'BHN' comfortably in 3rd spot, whilst 'DOYS', 'NGHFB' and 'Chasing Yesterday' are all jostling for 4th, 5th and 6th. Had 'DOYS' replaced the 3 weaker tracks on the album with 'Record Machine' & 'Come On Outside' it probably would've stolen that 3rd spot. Anyway back to Liam's new record... |
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Post by johnlennon696 on Jun 3, 2022 6:59:01 GMT -5
Wonder if Nothing Nowhere will get put on that or before. Or will he just leave it as is? It deserves a release whatever happens. |
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Jun 3, 2022 7:05:50 GMT -5
On the other hand, that quote makes song writing credits suspicious Everything about that song is suspicious. Stories dont match, songwriting credit is fake obv. We know that even Noel couldn't really decide about the singles back in Oasis, Lyla being the example. So Liam in a major record label ? Please... Pretty clear this song was added by the label. He's not hating it but he's not loving it either. It's ok, the rest of the LP is fantastic. I don't see anything suspicious. What stories don't match? Why is the songwriting credit obviously fake? Do you know Friedrich Kunath's story? Why would it matter about the songwriting credits anyway? Why is pretty clear it was added by the label? What would it matter anyway? Give us an example of why he not loving it? May I suggest that you base your conspiracies on more facts than just freewheeling guesswork. |
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Post by lg on Jun 3, 2022 7:27:27 GMT -5
Moscow rules is liam's best solo song
By far
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Post by dazed on Jun 3, 2022 7:54:41 GMT -5
listening to it again, still not sick of it. Love the way it flows from track to track.
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Jun 3, 2022 9:05:56 GMT -5
Wonder if Nothing Nowhere will get put on that or before. Or will he just leave it as is? It deserves a release whatever happens. I reckon it will be on there. I said at the time that the leaked version sounds like a finished track that was just badly recorded on a phone. The way Liam said “not on this one” when asked if it was on CYK, I think he was already planning a new album sooner rather than later, and had already earmarked it for that one. It was likely recorded with CYK but set aside in favour of Too Good For Giving Up. |
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Post by jeffrey on Jun 3, 2022 9:06:02 GMT -5
Anyone know when we’ll see actual sales figures for UK?
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Post by themanwholivesinhell on Jun 3, 2022 9:08:00 GMT -5
Anyone know when we’ll see actual sales figures for UK? About 5pm the officialcharts website tend to publish an article stating whos got to #1, and the sales figures are normally included on those. |
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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Jun 3, 2022 9:08:59 GMT -5
'C'mon You Know', the album by Liam Gallagher, is now BRIT Certified Silver
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Post by freddy838 on Jun 3, 2022 9:41:33 GMT -5
'C'mon You Know', the album by Liam Gallagher, is now BRIT Certified Silver So at least 60k, WMWN did 68k in the first week, so likely roughly the same? |
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Post by chamu on Jun 3, 2022 9:51:12 GMT -5
'C'mon You Know', the album by Liam Gallagher, is now BRIT Certified Silver So at least 60k, WMWN did 68k in the first week, so likely roughly the same? He sold 66506 until wednesday so it should end the week between 70-75k |
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jun 3, 2022 9:57:39 GMT -5
On the other hand, that quote makes song writing credits suspicious Not suspicious... I think it's clear Liam did not have any involvement with writing that song, and he never pretended otherwise. That he appears as co-writer is probably part of the commercial agreement for sharing royalties, etc. Other big names do basically the same nowadays The thing is that “involvement” is defined pretty broadly in songwriting (because it is very valuable and not much else is in album making anymore). Songwriting credits legally go to anyone who “contributed to the song’s chord progression, lyrics or structure.”
Doesn’t take much for a singer who does things his own way to add a touch or two that changes 1 or 2 of these. And, as you say, there are very significant financial reasons why songwriting credit is now typically given to the person with their name on the cover.
But there’s nothing different between say EE and Moscow Rules that makes one “suspicious” and the other not. |
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Post by jeffrey on Jun 3, 2022 10:03:15 GMT -5
So at least 60k, WMWN did 68k in the first week, so likely roughly the same? He sold 66506 until wednesday so it should end the week between 70-75k Didn’t everyone that bought a Knebworth ticket get a free download for the album? I could be wrong, because if so, the number would have be higher than 70-75k, yeah? |
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Post by girllikeabomb on Jun 3, 2022 10:15:21 GMT -5
He sold 66506 until wednesday so it should end the week between 70-75k Didn’t everyone that bought a Knebworth ticket get a free download for the album? I could be wrong, because if so, the number would have be higher than 70-75k, yeah?
It was the other way around -- pre-ordering the album made you eligible for the pre-sale of tix.
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Post by chamu on Jun 3, 2022 10:16:43 GMT -5
He sold 66506 until wednesday so it should end the week between 70-75k Didn’t everyone that bought a Knebworth ticket get a free download for the album? I could be wrong, because if so, the number would have be higher than 70-75k, yeah? If you preordered the album you got a presale code, but you could get this code without preorder it and you could buy it in general sale too, so not all the people bought the album |
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Post by mancraider on Jun 3, 2022 10:39:45 GMT -5
#2 in Ireland.
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Post by mancraider on Jun 3, 2022 11:04:33 GMT -5
As expected. #4 for DBTR
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