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Post by PepsiNebula on Jun 1, 2022 22:46:10 GMT -5
DM: 6
(WTS)MG?: 9
BHN: 7.5
SOTSOG: 6
HC: 4.5
DBTT: 3 (would be a 2 except for TIOBI)
DOYS: 9
DGSS: 2
BE: 6
NGHFB: 8
CY: 7
WBTM?: 4
AYW: 7
WM?WN.: 7 (weird one, half of it's up there at 8 or 9 and half's around a 6, so I averaged)
COYK: 8
COYK is just a guess; may change with time.
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Post by dominik1291 on Jun 1, 2022 23:02:25 GMT -5
DM: 10
(WTS)MG?: 10
BHN: 7,5/8
SOTSOG: 6,5
HC: 6/6,5
DBTT: 7/7,5
DOYS: 7,5/8
DGSS: 6,5
BE: 6,5/7
NGHFB: 8/8,5
CY: 7,5/8
WBTM?: 6
AYW: 7
WM?WN.: 7/7,5
C'MYK: 7,5/8
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Post by betinho on Jun 1, 2022 23:23:56 GMT -5
Definitely Maybe 10
What's The Story Morning Glory 10
Be Here Now 9
Standing On The Shoulder of Giants 8.5
Heathen Chemistry 4
Don't Believe The Truth 6
Dig Out Your Soul 7
Different Gear Still Speeding 6
BE 7
Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds 6
Chasing Yesterday 7.5
Who Built The Moon 4
As You Were 7.5
Why Me, Why Not 7
C'mon You Know 7
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Post by mkoasis on Jun 1, 2022 23:25:45 GMT -5
I am so thrilled that Roll It Over has been done live. Finally! And it sounds tremendous. Listening to Down By the River Thames, Liam sounds so good - it’s hard to believe the vocals from FTM were 22 years ago! (And only 5 years after the Roll With It single came out).
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Post by mkoasis on Jun 1, 2022 23:33:59 GMT -5
As for the album:
Right from the start of the opener “more power”, it felt great. It’s such an unusual opener, kicking off with a children’s choir vocal. But it soon felt right into place as a Rolling Stones move and set the album up as a great mix of Liam’s favoured 1966-69 sound and more modern slick production.
I liked “diamond in the dark” even more. It’s got a sharp, funky feel with forefront bass and a terrific Liam vocal. “Don’t go halfway” followed the vibe nicely from there with a grinding instrumental groove. The title track is okay, sounds like a BE outtake. Not a bad tune but not great either. It sounds like an inferior version of “flick of the finger” but without almost everything great about that song. “Too good for giving up” and “it was not meant to be” both hit home in a very current sense. I really like both.
“Everything’s electric” starts off the second half and is I think the best tune on the album still. That “I don’t hate you but I despise that feeling/there’s nothing left for me here/you won’t know if you don’t go” bit still hits me hard. The following tracks though, “worlds in need” fell flat. I actually quite dislike it. Almost everything that could be poor about “worlds in need” was poor, just sounding like a DGSS castoff. “Moscow rules” was okay. Not one I liked a lot but had at least redeeming features and sounds like it fits on the album.
“I’m free” is stunning and feels like a roundhouse kick to the face that’s part Underworld, part Death in Vegas, but all Liam. The song makes terrific use of his unique vocals and drops in and out of reggae bits that remind me of The Clash. Following that, “better days” rings loud and proud, fitting well as an anthemic penultimate track. “Oh sweet children” is decent, but the two bonus tracks “joker” and “the wave” really ought to have replaced “worlds in need” and “come on you know” because they are well produced, well paced, proper songs that capture best what this album does.
Overall, I’m very happy with the new album. It’s a great bunch of songs, a coherent feel, more adventurous, and an improved follow up from WMWN’s shortcomings. I still can’t figure out how “worlds in need” got on there! At least it sounds better live, as on the BBC Jools Holland performance.
Short version:
Best tracks:
Everything’s Electric
Diamond in the Dark
I’m Free
Better days
It was not meant to be (yes I love it)
Can’t stand:
Words in Need
Everything else is great!
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Post by mkoasis on Jun 1, 2022 23:59:03 GMT -5
I’ve just heard “Bless You” - where the heck did this one come from?? Should have made the album. They could lose the vocal effect I think but what a tune!
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Post by oasisserbia on Jun 2, 2022 2:47:16 GMT -5
It's John Lennon's song.
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Post by jorgendif on Jun 2, 2022 2:50:39 GMT -5
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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Jun 2, 2022 3:00:25 GMT -5
I’ve just heard “Bless You” - where the heck did this one come from?? Should have made the album. They could lose the vocal effect I think but what a tune! Did you hear it from super deluxe vinyl or is it lying around somewhere? |
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Post by chamu on Jun 2, 2022 3:19:12 GMT -5
Hahahaha WBTM vetter than CMYK? Hahaha You have the worst taste in music on the planet... haha just keep those silly opinions to yourself. He's right. Dig Out Your Soul having the same score as Be Here Now, on the other hand... I really appreciate all people opinions and it shows how subjetive is any taste/opinion in music. That´s is because i never put my view about any song/album as a fact. I´m open to all kind of music, indeed i praise what Noel is trying in WBTM but, for me, as an album/collection of songs is the worst album by Liam/Noel by faaaar. I haven´t played from start to finish in years. Literally i get boring ten minutes into it. Not any songs i like at all... I, however, really like some songs of the EP´s. And i think BHN is in another level too. It can´t be compared to DOYS. Although, first side of DOYS (until I´m outta time) is a really great collection of songs, up there with its prime |
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Post by Rivers on Jun 2, 2022 5:31:23 GMT -5
After a few listens, I’d like to share my opinion on COYN. Well maybe not my opinion, more my feelings…
For some reason, many times through the album I find myself feeling that Liam is not very related to what I’m listening, almost as if he was a session musician… Of course, he is singing, but I don’t feel the song belongs to him. Of course, I know about the different writers he has, so it may come from there, I don't want it to be important but it seems I can't help it. But that feeling wasn’t that strong in AYW for example.
I got that same feeling when I watched the first live performance of EE in the MTV awards, and the chorus came in… Like it was out of place to see him singing something like that.
I don’t want to justify myself, I’m not Liam hater or anything, love the man since forever etc, and I’ll be following whatever he’s into for sure, but I don’t enjoy this feeling, and it keeps me from really enjoying the album.
Anyway, good for him that most people here seem to really dig it, I guess I’ll have the get used to it.
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Post by modxxii on Jun 2, 2022 5:37:58 GMT -5
After 25/30 listenings, my "awards"
Best tune: More Power
Best lyrics: Too Good for Giving Up
Best vocals: Too Good for Giving Up
Best production: World's In Need
Best arrangement: Moscow Rules
Great album.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jun 2, 2022 5:54:42 GMT -5
After a few listens, I’d like to share my opinion on COYN. Well maybe not my opinion, more my feelings… For some reason, many times through the album I find myself feeling that Liam is not very related to what I’m listening, almost as if he was a session musician… Of course, he is singing, but I don’t feel the song belongs to him. Of course, I know about the different writers he has, so it may come from there, I don't want it to be important but it seems I can't help it. But that feeling wasn’t that strong in AYW for example. I got that same feeling when I watched the first live performance of EE in the MTV awards, and the chorus came in… Like it was out of place to see him singing something like that. I don’t want to justify myself, I’m not Liam hater or anything, love the man since forever etc, and I’ll be following whatever he’s into for sure, but I don’t enjoy this feeling, and it keeps me from really enjoying the album. Anyway, good for him that most people here seem to really dig it, I guess I’ll have the get used to it. The problem is that he isn’t really a songwriter. I understand if you feel the songs aren’t connected to him but that’s unlikely to change. He simply isn’t or hasn’t been so far prolific enough to produce an albums worth of material. I think of him in the bracket as Elvis and I’ve never seen anyone complain about his attachment to the music |
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Post by fabulousbakers on Jun 2, 2022 6:18:28 GMT -5
I can't find BLESS YOU and the other exclusive bonus track online anywhere and if they haven't surfaced by now it looks like they never will (it must have been a very limited edition).
What's the cheapest way of buying this and getting a version I can listen to (I don't have a turntable)?
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Post by theunderclass on Jun 2, 2022 6:23:09 GMT -5
I can't find BLESS YOU and the other exclusive bonus track online anywhere and if they haven't surfaced by now it looks like they never will (it must have been a very limited edition). What's the cheapest way of buying this and getting a version I can listen to (I don't have a turntable)? It’s on the CD that comes with the deluxe vinyl set, so you don’t need a record player. Mine showed up today! I can’t play the record either right now, but it’s a nice package anyway.  |
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Post by andymorris on Jun 2, 2022 7:22:34 GMT -5
I can't find BLESS YOU and the other exclusive bonus track online anywhere and if they haven't surfaced by now it looks like they never will (it must have been a very limited edition). What's the cheapest way of buying this and getting a version I can listen to (I don't have a turntable)? It’s on the CD that comes with the deluxe vinyl set, so you don’t need a record player. Mine showed up today! I can’t play the record either right now, but it’s a nice package anyway. Dude what's your couch ? I swear i got almost the same ! |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jun 2, 2022 7:27:54 GMT -5
DM: 10 (WTS)MG?: 10 BHN: 8 SOTSOG: 7 HC: 6 DBTT: 6 DOYS: 8 DGSS: 3 BE: 4 NGHFB: 8 CY: 8 WBTM?: 7 AYW: 6 WM?WN.: 5 C'MYK: 4 Nice idea DM: 10 (WTS)MG?: 10 BHN: 8,5 SOTSOG: 7,5 HC: 4 DBTT: 5 DOYS: 7 DGSS: 3 BE: 6 NGHFB: 8 CY: 8 (8+?) WBTM?: 9 AYW: 7 WM?WN.: 5,5 C'MYK: too early maybe, but a 6,5/7 for now |
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Post by theunderclass on Jun 2, 2022 7:28:58 GMT -5
It’s on the CD that comes with the deluxe vinyl set, so you don’t need a record player. Mine showed up today! I can’t play the record either right now, but it’s a nice package anyway. Dude what's your couch ? I swear i got almost the same ! Couldn’t tell you the details! Just one I bought about 6 or 7 years ago haha. |
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Post by andymorris on Jun 2, 2022 7:32:24 GMT -5
Dude what's your couch ? I swear i got almost the same ! Couldn’t tell you the details! Just one I bought about 6 or 7 years ago haha. Me too, ahah 7 years ago. Habitat ?  |
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Post by LightsOffInside on Jun 2, 2022 8:15:13 GMT -5
After a few listens, I’d like to share my opinion on COYN. Well maybe not my opinion, more my feelings… For some reason, many times through the album I find myself feeling that Liam is not very related to what I’m listening, almost as if he was a session musician… Of course, he is singing, but I don’t feel the song belongs to him. Of course, I know about the different writers he has, so it may come from there, I don't want it to be important but it seems I can't help it. But that feeling wasn’t that strong in AYW for example. I got that same feeling when I watched the first live performance of EE in the MTV awards, and the chorus came in… Like it was out of place to see him singing something like that. I don’t want to justify myself, I’m not Liam hater or anything, love the man since forever etc, and I’ll be following whatever he’s into for sure, but I don’t enjoy this feeling, and it keeps me from really enjoying the album. Anyway, good for him that most people here seem to really dig it, I guess I’ll have the get used to it. This is interesting, because I feel the opposite with this album. I feel that Liam is definitely more connected to the songs, even the ones written primarily by the songwriters (with maybe EE being the exception) He’s definitely more connected to this than the songs on WMWN anyway. A lot of the lyrics sound like they would come from him, and even his personality shines through on some of the songs, such as I’m Free. |
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Post by shinpad on Jun 2, 2022 10:13:28 GMT -5
Diamond in the Dark is great, really digging that one.
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Post by Rivers on Jun 2, 2022 10:31:10 GMT -5
After a few listens, I’d like to share my opinion on COYN. Well maybe not my opinion, more my feelings… For some reason, many times through the album I find myself feeling that Liam is not very related to what I’m listening, almost as if he was a session musician… Of course, he is singing, but I don’t feel the song belongs to him. Of course, I know about the different writers he has, so it may come from there, I don't want it to be important but it seems I can't help it. But that feeling wasn’t that strong in AYW for example. I got that same feeling when I watched the first live performance of EE in the MTV awards, and the chorus came in… Like it was out of place to see him singing something like that. I don’t want to justify myself, I’m not Liam hater or anything, love the man since forever etc, and I’ll be following whatever he’s into for sure, but I don’t enjoy this feeling, and it keeps me from really enjoying the album. Anyway, good for him that most people here seem to really dig it, I guess I’ll have the get used to it. This is interesting, because I feel the opposite with this album. I feel that Liam is definitely more connected to the songs, even the ones written primarily by the songwriters (with maybe EE being the exception) He’s definitely more connected to this than the songs on WMWN anyway. A lot of the lyrics sound like they would come from him, and even his personality shines through on some of the songs, such as I’m Free. Funny how different each one reacts to the same music. I don't know, in my head I can figure a bunch of professional writers saying "let's make him do an Artic Monkeys", or "let's make him sing a bit of reggae"... But is Liam really into AM or reggae, or he is just singing what he is told? |
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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Jun 2, 2022 11:25:09 GMT -5
This is interesting, because I feel the opposite with this album. I feel that Liam is definitely more connected to the songs, even the ones written primarily by the songwriters (with maybe EE being the exception) He’s definitely more connected to this than the songs on WMWN anyway. A lot of the lyrics sound like they would come from him, and even his personality shines through on some of the songs, such as I’m Free. Funny how different each one reacts to the same music. I don't know, in my head I can figure a bunch of professional writers saying "let's make him do an Artic Monkeys", or "let's make him sing a bit of reggae"... But is Liam really into AM or reggae, or he is just singing what he is told? In an interview a few years ago he said that he doesn't record his voice on songs he doesn't like. And this also seems to have happened with the latest Oasis records. |
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Post by tiger40 on Jun 2, 2022 13:08:04 GMT -5
As for the album: Right from the start of the opener “more power”, it felt great. It’s such an unusual opener, kicking off with a children’s choir vocal. But it soon felt right into place as a Rolling Stones move and set the album up as a great mix of Liam’s favoured 1966-69 sound and more modern slick production. I liked “diamond in the dark” even more. It’s got a sharp, funky feel with forefront bass and a terrific Liam vocal. “Don’t go halfway” followed the vibe nicely from there with a grinding instrumental groove. The title track is okay, sounds like a BE outtake. Not a bad tune but not great either. It sounds like an inferior version of “flick of the finger” but without almost everything great about that song. “Too good for giving up” and “it was not meant to be” both hit home in a very current sense. I really like both. “Everything’s electric” starts off the second half and is I think the best tune on the album still. That “I don’t hate you but I despise that feeling/there’s nothing left for me here/you won’t know if you don’t go” bit still hits me hard. The following tracks though, “worlds in need” fell flat. I actually quite dislike it. Almost everything that could be poor about “worlds in need” was poor, just sounding like a DGSS castoff. “Moscow rules” was okay. Not one I liked a lot but had at least redeeming features and sounds like it fits on the album. “I’m free” is stunning and feels like a roundhouse kick to the face that’s part Underworld, part Death in Vegas, but all Liam. The song makes terrific use of his unique vocals and drops in and out of reggae bits that remind me of The Clash. Following that, “better days” rings loud and proud, fitting well as an anthemic penultimate track. “Oh sweet children” is decent, but the two bonus tracks “joker” and “the wave” really ought to have replaced “worlds in need” and “come on you know” because they are well produced, well paced, proper songs that capture best what this album does. Overall, I’m very happy with the new album. It’s a great bunch of songs, a coherent feel, more adventurous, and an improved follow up from WMWN’s shortcomings. I still can’t figure out how “worlds in need” got on there! At least it sounds better live, as on the BBC Jools Holland performance. Short version: Best tracks: Everything’s Electric Diamond in the Dark I’m Free Better days It was not meant to be (yes I love it) Can’t stand: Words in Need Everything else is great! Well, I absolutely love Worlds In Need and it's one of my favourites. |
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Post by tiger40 on Jun 2, 2022 13:08:58 GMT -5
I love the photos in the deluxe boxed set, they're really good.
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