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Post by bt95 on Jun 29, 2019 18:03:36 GMT -5
What were your views on the crowd IGF? It just seemed so subdued, even for Glasto. Not many were there specifically to see Liam, but I guess that’s inevitable when tickets are sold before artists are announced. I think most of the people around me only knew Wonderwall, Cigs and Alcohol etc. They were up for it in their own way, and seemed to enjoy it but definitely weren’t invested in his performance. The heat maybe had an impact, I can imagine how draining it must be if they’ve been roaming around in it for a few days. There were, of course, a few Oasis fans knocking around. What I did notice, which I thought was odd, were people in Oasis Tshirt’s who didn’t have a clue what most of the songs were. Not so much of the norty stuff kicking around either, was heavy on the sniffer dogs, this probably affected their mood if they’re usually into that shit. For me though, I really enjoyed it. Went in, gave it sum, and left. In and out of there, in and out. What happened with Fuckin/RnRStar? Didn’t quite grasp what happened there. Was it clearer on tv?? Fair do's. Yeh, it's always hard with a festival crowd and I feel Oasis/Liam/Noel are always at their best when they've got the crowd fully on side (i.e. his comeback in 2017 - only people who really wanted Liam to do well would have gone and then that built up the buzz etc. Bit different when you're on before the headliner on the main stage, especially given the Killers do generally draw a different fanbase than Oasis would!). With the intro, God knows. Jay really didn't play it well again (I've come to the conclusion that this is just genuinely his way of playing RNS, but it just doesn't work at all!), but it also sounded like the band either kicked in five seconds too early or the sound guy let FITB play on for five seconds too long. Either way, not a great start, though it didn't take anything away from the gig for me. Those first 6 songs were great imo and the Oasis ones really kicked it up. Bold - they cocked up big style in the second half of the song. Liam sang out of key for the chorus and it just didn't work at all (on the TV at least) with the more toned down version. It's a song that builds and builds and thrives at the end, and toning it down kills that. Throw in Liam having a bit of a mix up and the crowd not really being able to carry it along and it was a bit awkward. I actually really liked how Universal Gleam sounded, but again, it wasn't really the right place in the set (or the right place in terms of location) to help get it back up. The River was good with Andrew Wyatt though and was a lot heavier than on the record. I was worried they couldn't do it justice live but they have done, so that's great!
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Post by bringmethemonkey on Jun 29, 2019 18:13:34 GMT -5
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Post by neila83 on Jun 29, 2019 18:14:48 GMT -5
It is good thing actually that Liam doesn't give a fuck about Glasto. It's not his crowd, they don't respect him that much so he is not respecting them too much, he is not having some Glastonbury specials and shit. Why should those festival idiots have better gig, when they can't have respect that, than some mad fer it fans on some regular gig. Yeh it's only the world's greatest music festival. Having been to many Oasis gigs, and Glastonbury, I know which tends to attract the 'idiots'. If you don't get Glastonbury, you're not a music fan. Which is fine, you're a Liam fan. You are missing out on, in my and many others opinion, one of the world's greatest musical and cultural experiences. But if it's more important to you to knock it just to defend Liam's performance, good for you.
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Post by bringmethemonkey on Jun 29, 2019 18:17:58 GMT -5
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Post by neila83 on Jun 29, 2019 18:31:59 GMT -5
I do not get how on god's earth he still has the same band. A 16 year old who's been paying guitar for 6 months could play the C&A riff better. I can only assume they're Liam's mates, but seriously, it's criminal for an act as big as him to be playing with such amateurs. If I pay good money to go to a gig I want to hear better performers than play in he upstairs bar in my local in Mexico City. And I'm not even joking.
Noel had a similar problem until he changed up his band and now his live shows are phenomenal.
Then again it would also be nice to hear Liam singing some songs written by actual rock song writers, but I've kid of given up on that ever happening, which is very sad. If Liam Gallagher's destiny is singing songs crafted by committee to hit the 'target market' that will be such a waste,
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Post by jh on Jun 29, 2019 18:50:48 GMT -5
It is good thing actually that Liam doesn't give a fuck about Glasto. It's not his crowd, they don't respect him that much so he is not respecting them too much, he is not having some Glastonbury specials and shit. Why should those festival idiots have better gig, when they can't have respect that, than some mad fer it fans on some regular gig. Yeh it's only the world's greatest music festival. Having been to many Oasis gigs, and Glastonbury, I know which tends to attract the 'idiots'. If you don't get Glastonbury, you're not a music fan. Which is fine, you're a Liam fan. You are missing out on, in my and many others opinion, one of the world's greatest musical and cultural experiences. But if it's more important to you to knock it just to defend Liam's performance, good for you. Very true all round.. also noted his barnet...hair..is virtually identical to River Plate iconic gig look...where hf also gave zero fucks .. Christ I hope some superb person got this whole performance...I missed half and its cut to 29 mins on shit BBC iplayer.. utter wank
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 29, 2019 18:59:00 GMT -5
1996 vocals.....😲
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Post by bt95 on Jun 29, 2019 19:12:40 GMT -5
It is good thing actually that Liam doesn't give a fuck about Glasto. It's not his crowd, they don't respect him that much so he is not respecting them too much, he is not having some Glastonbury specials and shit. Why should those festival idiots have better gig, when they can't have respect that, than some mad fer it fans on some regular gig. Yeh it's only the world's greatest music festival. Having been to many Oasis gigs, and Glastonbury, I know which tends to attract the 'idiots'. If you don't get Glastonbury, you're not a music fan. Which is fine, you're a Liam fan. You are missing out on, in my and many others opinion, one of the world's greatest musical and cultural experiences. But if it's more important to you to knock it just to defend Liam's performance, good for you. I've not been, I'm not a huge fan of festivals anyway. But, it does seem over the last few years Glasto has become much more about being there for the sake of social-media praise and likes rather than anything else. Much like a lot of things in life. That's not to slate it. I'm sure it's an amazing place. There's also nothing wrong with saying the crowd seemed a bit flat today, but again I'm sure if you were there then it's a different story all together. I think it's a stretch to call 2019 Glastonbury 'one of the world's great cultural experiences', tbh. It's just another excuse for middle aged blokes with beards to show the rest of the world how fucking good their life is. Glastonbury as a whole - definitely a special festival and special history though, that's for sure. On another note, apparently The Killers were ace tonight (I didn't catch the set). I'm sure they will have been. They're a great band but more importantly - and I think this is why Oasis never really caught Glasto right (bar 1994) - is that they put on a great show. Liam - and up until this last tour, Noel - have never been about putting on amazing show as such. It's been more about the swagger and the attitude and then the songs. It's maybe why it never clicked. In 2017 Liam was on the comeback trail on The Other Stage and I guess in many ways it may have felt like 1994 again. Same time, same stage etc. Liam was coming back at a time he was needed in British music but also just after a tragic event which seemed to bring the whole country together for a bit in its mourning. This time around it's a bit different and he's gone on before a headline act on the Pyramid Stage and it's clear that while I'm sure all of the crowd were there to enjoy it, they also didn't have that commitment to Oasis/Liam/Noel that sometimes Liam and Noel need on those big occasions. They were always a better stadium/arena band than a festival band and LG and NG will always remain that way tbh. But, I thought Liam did what he does very well on the whole tonight.
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Post by bringmethemonkey on Jun 29, 2019 19:40:16 GMT -5
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Post by shannee on Jun 29, 2019 20:17:32 GMT -5
Great vocals, the band are just pissing me off. Do they have no drive to be better?? They’ve have enough time and gigs to be cleaner than this. They’re suppose to be professional fucking musicians of LG’s caliber. I’m pretty sure there are oasis cover bands better than this lot. I don’t mind Mike but the rest can go. They are just not in sync and have no leader apparently. Someone needs to be the hard ass and tell them to get their shit together. 3 weeks practice before performing before the world is not enough.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 29, 2019 20:24:58 GMT -5
Great vocals, the band are just pissing me off. Do they have no drive to be better?? They’ve have enough time and gigs to be cleaner than this. They’re suppose to be professional fucking musicians of LG’s caliber. I’m pretty sure there are oasis cover bands better than this lot. I don’t mind Mike but the rest can go. They are just not in sync and have no leader apparently. Someone needs to be the hard ass and tell them to get their shit together. 3 weeks practice before performing before the world is not enough. Was thinking the same exact damn thing earlier today, mate!
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Post by tezza198 on Jun 29, 2019 20:28:13 GMT -5
Not as good as 2017 but it's a different kind of gig for Liam, he still did great imo. But seriously Jesus Christ those backing vocals by Drew on Roll with it were EMBARRESSING! The band really gotta get their shit together FFS
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Post by Mario on Jun 29, 2019 20:53:14 GMT -5
Liam's band is an easy target....
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Post by vespa on Jun 29, 2019 21:02:06 GMT -5
You lot a joke?? Glastonbury best festival in world and by views Liam’s drawn biggest crowd of weekend while performing a top set,why keep knocking him?? Half folk on here morons
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Post by shannee on Jun 29, 2019 21:17:33 GMT -5
You lot a joke?? Glastonbury best festival in world and by views Liam’s drawn biggest crowd of weekend while performing a top set,why keep knocking him?? Half folk on here morons Who knocked Liam?? Didn’t see anyone in this thread do that
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Post by Sadie on Jun 29, 2019 21:40:45 GMT -5
Overall it was a good gig imo but once again there are certain things that ruined it. The band still haven't fully got their shit together, Liam completely messed up the end of Bold and as hard as he tries, he just can't hit those high notes. He nailed the Oasis songs though as always and The River sounded great apart from the high notes, so it can't be considered as a bad gig, just nowhere near the best. Not as good as Glasto 2017 but Roll With It was a real highlight!
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Post by justaroundmidnight on Jun 29, 2019 21:54:08 GMT -5
Liam's band is an easy target.... Oasis was greater than the sum of its parts. Liam's band is quite the opposite.
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Post by pliolite on Jun 29, 2019 22:43:45 GMT -5
The band fluctuate from being solid one minute (Shockwave, Roll With It (backing vox aside)) to f**k awful the next. Get someone in who can do the god damn backing vox properly, and play all guitar parts well.
Problem is Liam doesn't give s**t one about the musicianship. Rough around the edges is rock n roll.... Though Noel wouldn't but up with this for a second. The worst band onstage at this festival.
I don't know why Liam doesn't just drop Bold from now on, if he can't sing it. Sounds like a total s**tshow, and then they pointlessly stripped it back, which does nothing but expose the vocals even more! XD
Gleam was alright, though this Glasto crowd were never gonna appreciate it. Headliner aside, no-one cares. They're all clean-cut white students from London getting their mum to pay £180 so they can update their IG of pics from the farm.
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Post by freddy838 on Jun 30, 2019 0:19:53 GMT -5
I've been to a festival when it's been boiling and it's pretty tough to keep going all the way through, and yesterday would have been even hotter so I can see why the crowd was poor. Thing is, Liam thrives off the crowd so perhaps not surprising he himself flagged a bit. Bold was an absolute shit show but apart from that I'd say it was a 7/10, some bits worse, some bits better.
With the band I can understand him being loyal to the guys. Dan especially had a big part in the very early days when Liam was demoing I think but I just don't think he is a specialist drummer. He is a multi instrumentalist/songwriter and seems to have taken a couple of steps back from the end of the last tour. There is no justification for keeping Jay though, he is absolutely awful. The other two are fine, but as was said earlier neither of them 'lead' the band it seems.
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Post by janedoe on Jun 30, 2019 1:02:50 GMT -5
Great vocals, the band are just pissing me off. Do they have no drive to be better?? They’ve have enough time and gigs to be cleaner than this. They’re suppose to be professional fucking musicians of LG’s caliber. I’m pretty sure there are oasis cover bands better than this lot. I don’t mind Mike but the rest can go. They are just not in sync and have no leader apparently. Someone needs to be the hard ass and tell them to get their shit together. 3 weeks practice before performing before the world is not enough. A good choice for YouTube from Liam's set. The comments on YT are very close to to the opinions in this forum. The Band is not up to the task.
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Post by Jgrp on Jun 30, 2019 1:36:28 GMT -5
Can the full set be watched anywhere ?
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Post by MONO on Jun 30, 2019 2:01:22 GMT -5
Crowd went mad @ Chem Bros
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Post by rickypaglais on Jun 30, 2019 2:19:07 GMT -5
Gleam was alright, though this Glasto crowd were never gonna appreciate it. Headliner aside, no-one cares. They're all clean-cut white students from London getting their mum to pay £180 so they can update their IG of pics from the farm. Why would you bring up the skin colour of the audience? Do you have a problem with them being white?
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Post by mimmihopps on Jun 30, 2019 3:12:28 GMT -5
Can the full set be watched anywhere ? UK only
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Post by Jgrp on Jun 30, 2019 3:21:12 GMT -5
Can the full set be watched anywhere ? UK only Thanks. I’m outside the UK at the mo so can’t watch it. If anywhere else becomes available please shout! Dying to see it
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