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Post by uboasis on May 21, 2019 21:47:00 GMT -5
I'm trying to think which past musician has had a career path to what Noel's is looking like now.
- Started off in a popular band but not the lead singer followed by....
- solo or band project where he/she becomes the lead singer but the music evolves where it does not sound like a rehash of the original band.
Are there any good examples?
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Post by The Escapist on May 21, 2019 22:07:24 GMT -5
Eminem. His and Noel's career have the same seven steps:
1. The Original Classic Run (Definitely Maybe - Morning Glory - B Sides / The Slim Shady LP - The Marshall Mathers LP - The Eminem Show)
2. The Bloated Drugs-Influenced Let-Down (Be Here Now / Encore)
3. The Underrated Comeback With Too Few Hit Singles (Standing on the Shoulders of Giants / Relapse)
4. The Safe Hit-Making Period (Heathen Chemistry - Don't Believe the Truth / Recovery - The Marshall Mathers LP2)
5. The Decent Album No-One Talks About (Dig Out Your Soul - Bad Meets Evil)
6. The Wheels Come Off (Oasis Breakup - Revival)
7. The Redemption (High Flying Birds - Kamikaze)
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Post by The Escapist on May 22, 2019 1:03:57 GMT -5
Good point, didn't think about that. |
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Post by ritajerry on May 22, 2019 2:47:00 GMT -5
I'm trying to think which past musician has had a career path to what Noel's is looking like now. - Started off in a popular band but not the lead singer followed by.... - solo or band project where he/she becomes the lead singer but the music evolves where it does not sound like a rehash of the original band. Are there any good examples? I think he is quite successful solo artist who left from a Massive band and no one similar. But I think he would like to behave like David Bowie recently, more experimental |
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Post by mossy on May 22, 2019 3:02:10 GMT -5
I'm trying to think which past musician has had a career path to what Noel's is looking like now. - Started off in a popular band but not the lead singer followed by.... - solo or band project where he/she becomes the lead singer but the music evolves where it does not sound like a rehash of the original band. Are there any good examples? I think he is quite successful solo artist who left from a Massive band and no one similar. But I think he would like to behave like David Bowie recently, more experimental Noel doesn’t come close to Bowie imo. Bowie completely reinvented himself every few years. He was making drum and bass records when he was Noel’s age! X |
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Post by yeayeayeah on May 22, 2019 3:27:34 GMT -5
Paul Weller if you skip the Style Council. Although Noel is sort of doing that now, minus the topless videos and dodgy haircut.
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Post by mossy on May 22, 2019 5:12:24 GMT -5
Paul Weller if you skip the Style Council. Although Noel is sort of doing that now, minus the topless videos and dodgy haircut. There’s still time. We can only hope. X |
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Post by tomlivesforever on May 22, 2019 5:25:41 GMT -5
Paul Weller if you skip the Style Council. Although Noel is sort of doing that now, minus the topless videos and dodgy haircut. He’s got a way to go to be compared to Weller’s solo career. |
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Post by eva on May 22, 2019 6:07:28 GMT -5
I'm trying to think which past musician has had a career path to what Noel's is looking like now. - Started off in a popular band but not the lead singer followed by.... - solo or band project where he/she becomes the lead singer but the music evolves where it does not sound like a rehash of the original band. Are there any good examples? Harry Styles?  sorry, I'll ban myself now |
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Post by eva on May 22, 2019 6:11:28 GMT -5
I think he's definitely heavily influenced by Bowie. I'm not so sure the end result is up with the times.
even though I've never been a fan, Bowie's music felt he was ahead of the times and evolving, whilst Noel's new approach feels old fashioned to me and certainly not an evolution of sound
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Post by seanrulesrh on May 22, 2019 6:32:51 GMT -5
Johnny Marr. Succesfull band and great solo career.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2019 6:47:59 GMT -5
Dave Grohl.
I'd explain but can't be arsed right now.
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Post by fartpanic on May 22, 2019 6:55:50 GMT -5
Jim Carrey
Biggest in the world in the mid nineties.
Dumb and Dumber, The Mask - What's The Story
97 - did shit loads of drugs and lost their way
2000 - made far less commercial art as they became less box office - Man On The Moon - Standing on the shoulder of Giants
2002/2003 - trying to recapture what made them famous with some pretty good results- Bruce Almighty - Stop Crying Your Heart Out
2005 - 2009 - the elder statesman of their field, becoming less interesting in their art but just as good in interviews
2010s - looking old
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Post by fartpanic on May 22, 2019 9:04:05 GMT -5
I think he's definitely heavily influenced by Bowie. I'm not so sure the end result is up with the times. even though I've never been a fan, Bowie's music felt he was ahead of the times and evolving, whilst Noel's new approach feels old fashioned to me and certainly not an evolution of sound I agree with this. In fact since going solo, alot of the things that Noel almost tries to convince people is progressive has been done before - and usually done better. Man Who Built The Moon was a different sound in places. But openly admitting hes just sat in a room listening to 70s stuff to rip off rips and jingles doesn't strike me as progress. On a side note I dont know why Noel is so open about doing this either. No one would ever find the vast majority of these links if he didn't tell us directly where he'd found them. The Riverman and Pinball song spring to mind with that. (Plus that story became laughably repetitive during that tour) |
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Post by mossy on May 22, 2019 12:33:00 GMT -5
Jim Carrey Biggest in the world in the mid nineties. Dumb and Dumber, The Mask - What's The Story 97 - did shit loads of drugs and lost their way 2000 - made far less commercial art as they became less box office - Man On The Moon - Standing on the shoulder of Giants 2002/2003 - trying to recapture what made them famous with some pretty good results- Bruce Almighty - Stop Crying Your Heart Out 2005 - 2009 - the elder statesman of their field, becoming less interesting in their art but just as good in interviews 2010s - looking old A positive divergence is that no-one died after being given STDs by Noel. X |
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Post by freddy838 on May 22, 2019 12:39:42 GMT -5
Robbie Williams. Left the band while the other members played on together, had some strong early hits with decreasing commercial success from then on and slightly awkward ventures into different types of pop. Still able to sell out big tours on name alone, with Chris Sharrock on drums.
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Post by lg on May 22, 2019 13:03:00 GMT -5
Eminem. His and Noel's career have the same seven steps: 1. The Original Classic Run (Definitely Maybe - Morning Glory - B Sides / The Slim Shady LP - The Marshall Mathers LP - The Eminem Show) 2. The Bloated Drugs-Influenced Let-Down (Be Here Now / Encore)
"3. The Underrated Comeback With Too Few Hit Singles (Standing on the Shoulders of Giants / Relapse)"
4. The Safe Hit-Making Period (Heathen Chemistry - Don't Believe the Truth / Recovery - The Marshall Mathers LP2) 5. The Decent Album No-One Talks About (Dig Out Your Soul - Bad Meets Evil) 6. The Wheels Come Off (Oasis Breakup - Revival) 7. The Redemption (High Flying Birds - Kamikaze) different sound from the previous albums too |
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Post by RocketMan on May 22, 2019 13:19:21 GMT -5
Robbie Williams. Left the band while the other members played on together, had some strong early hits with decreasing commercial success from then on and slightly awkward ventures into different types of pop. Still able to sell out big tours on name alone, with Chris Sharrock on drums. Only that RW was way bigger in his prime than TT, especially outside the UK |
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Post by sfsorrow on May 22, 2019 13:24:11 GMT -5
To answer the OP's question - a non-lead singer who leaves band to embark on a solo career as a lead singer with a different sound - there aren't too many examples that qualify. David Bowie doesn't work, neither does Weller.
I suppose Marr qualifies, as does Dave Grohl though Grohl is a somewhat different case because unlike Noel, he wasn't the main songwriter in Nirvana. Pete Townshend somewhat qualifies - he's had a pretty lengthy solo career with material somewhat different from The Who but The Who never really split up. One could potentially say Neil Young sort of qualifies but again he wasn't the main songwriter with Buffalo Springfield, just one of several contributors. Oddly enough, Robbie Williams might be a great example here though I'm unaware what his vocal contributions were to Take That. A glance at the singles on Wikipedia though suggests that Barlow sang most of the songs. Brian Wilson is another potential example as is John Squire.
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Post by shannee on May 22, 2019 15:53:07 GMT -5
My first thought is Clapton
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Post by Marissa on May 22, 2019 20:13:03 GMT -5
Eminem. His and Noel's career have the same seven steps: 1. The Original Classic Run (Definitely Maybe - Morning Glory - B Sides / The Slim Shady LP - The Marshall Mathers LP - The Eminem Show) 2. The Bloated Drugs-Influenced Let-Down (Be Here Now / Encore) 3. The Underrated Comeback With Too Few Hit Singles (Standing on the Shoulders of Giants / Relapse) 4. The Safe Hit-Making Period (Heathen Chemistry - Don't Believe the Truth / Recovery - The Marshall Mathers LP2) 5. The Decent Album No-One Talks About (Dig Out Your Soul - Bad Meets Evil) 6. The Wheels Come Off (Oasis Breakup - Revival) 7. The Redemption (High Flying Birds - Kamikaze) absolutely this is it |
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Post by ritajerry on May 22, 2019 22:25:57 GMT -5
My first thought is Clapton IMO Clapton’s guitar work is brilliant, but he contributed to too much band before. |
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on May 23, 2019 2:36:38 GMT -5
LONG ANSWER
Maybe George Harrison?
It's hard, because he is unique in that he was the main songwriter in the world's biggest band. He also shared lead vocals on some MASSIVE hits. Everyone knows what he sounded like, so it's not like we can compare him to, say, Dave Grohl.
However, Harrison rings a bell as he has released good albums in the relatively early stages of his solo career (I say early, because Oasis aren't ever going to reform, and he probably isn't going to stop releasing albums anytime soon.)
I'm currently listening to Got My Mind Set On You, which I think is the sound Noel is going for with Holy Mountain etc.
SHORT ANSWER
Idiot question. There isn't anyone.
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Post by LlAM on May 23, 2019 7:27:03 GMT -5
Justin Timberlake.
Thread over
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Post by mossy on May 28, 2019 3:48:49 GMT -5
LONG ANSWER Maybe George Harrison? It's hard, because he is unique in that he was the main songwriter in the world's biggest band. He also shared lead vocals on some MASSIVE hits. Everyone knows what he sounded like, so it's not like we can compare him to, say, Dave Grohl. However, Harrison rings a bell as he has released good albums in the relatively early stages of his solo career (I say early, because Oasis aren't ever going to reform, and he probably isn't going to stop releasing albums anytime soon.) I'm currently listening to Got My Mind Set On You, which I think is the sound Noel is going for with Holy Mountain etc. SHORT ANSWER Idiot question. There isn't anyone. You know I’ve never delved properly into Harrison’s solo stuff despite loving most of the songs he wrote for The Beatles. Where would you recommend starting? X |
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