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Post by Longtime Servant of the Gun on Jan 5, 2019 18:54:11 GMT -5
So out of the 24 songs Noel wrote between BHN & Giants.... All of the songs below ended up without the lead singer on. 15 tunes
Criminal.
SHOULD Noel have released a solo album. Should Oasis have had a 5 year break between Mark I amd Mark II. Shoukd the 4th LP and its singles be void of so many Noel Vocals? Should the best Liam sung tracks from Giants and HC have been released as LP4 in 2002
I think so.
Make Noel Gallager debut LP tracklisting from what was available in 2000 below
[Untitled Insumtrumental] If we Shadows Only for the Young Little by Little Force of Nature Revolution Song Idlers Dream Just Gettin Older Cigarettes in Hell One Way Road Helter Skelter [Live] Carry us all Full On Its a Crime Where did it all go wrong
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Post by World71R on Jan 5, 2019 20:07:33 GMT -5
I think it would've been a good idea. Give Oasis a break after such a raucous period, let Noel flesh out some of his creative ideas & come out with a solo album in 2001, and then bring Oasis back in 2003 or 2004 with new members, a refreshed sound and an eye to the future. I could see a Noel solo album like that being produced by him, Spike Stent, and The Chemical Brothers. I think there might've even been some songs that never came to be that would've been released on his solo album, but using the tracks you put and some of the SOTSOG tracks, I could see an album of:
Fuckin' in the Bushes Full On Force of Nature Revolution Song Where Did it All Go Wrong? (Demo version) Sunday Morning Call Little by Little One Way Road Carry Us All Idler's Dream
With any other tracks that may have come along during this different timeline.
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Post by matt on Jan 5, 2019 21:29:29 GMT -5
No.
And to be brutally honest it is because up until Who Built The Moon, there wasn’t enough variety in his songwriting to justify it. It would have bored me. Even an album full of Half The World Aways and Talk Tonight’s wouldn’t work on their own because, as great as those songs are (and I mean great), one entire album listening to those types of songs would lose your attention somewhere along the line. And to try and mix them up i.e. bring some rock into the fold? Well what would be the point if you have a better singer in Liam who’d be able to really give it justice?
An album as a piece of art has to embody various emotional and sonic detours. Noel as a solo artist has to do this and I can’t argue with the brilliance of Who Built The Moon - (the first time he’s really done this) as no tune is the same, and no tune is really similar to what he’s done before. It’s a tentative explorative step that I hope he takes further. But before Who Built The Moon? Nothing stuck out and he was relying on old and increasingly tired songwriting tricks.
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Post by The Escapist on Jan 5, 2019 22:21:14 GMT -5
Definitely not, after the nineties he wasn't writing the kind of songs he could totally carry on his own until maybe 2005 with The Importance of Being Idle.
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Post by beentherenow on Jan 6, 2019 3:53:04 GMT -5
Not for me,
Whilst there are a lot of Noel sung songs from around this era, it is the Liam songs which are the very best and are the only ones which can stand proud alongside the 90’s stuff; Go Let It Out, Gas Panic, Roll It Over etc. An album of SOTSOG era tunes without those songs and without Liam would be a dire, tedious listen (and I love SOTSOG),
Imagine Noel releasing the below directly after BHN?? I actually like a lot of these songs but Oasis fans would be outraged. It wouldn’t work
Carry Us All Where Did It All Go Wrong? One Way Road Little By Little Just Getting Older (As Long As They’ve Got) Cigarettes in Hell Sunday Morning Call Full On Idlers Dream It’s A Crime
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Post by Flashbax on Jan 6, 2019 8:59:42 GMT -5
No. And to be brutally honest it is because up until Who Built The Moon, there wasn’t enough variety in his songwriting to justify it. It would have bored me. Even an album full of Half The World Aways and Talk Tonight’s wouldn’t work on their own because, as great as those songs are (and I mean great), one entire album listening to those types of songs would lose your attention somewhere along the line. And to try and mix them up i.e. bring some rock into the fold? Well what would be the point if you have a better singer in Liam who’d be able to really give it justice? An album as a piece of art has to embody various emotional and sonic detours. Noel as a solo artist has to do this and I can’t argue with the brilliance of Who Built The Moon - (the first time he’s really done this) as no tune is the same, and no tune is really similar to what he’s done before. It’s a tentative explorative step that I hope he takes further. But before Who Built The Moon? Nothing stuck out and he was relying on old and increasingly tired songwriting tricks. Exactly. I think that NGHFB1 and CY would work much better with Liam on vocals on some of the songs.
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Post by oasisunited on Jan 7, 2019 12:12:02 GMT -5
Could you imagine how Liam would have reacted to Noel doing a solo album during an Oasis hiatus at that point, especially considering how he acts towards Noel currently? If I recall correctly, Noel tried to do the demos for SOTSOG in secret, but Liam found out and came down to the studio and basically hung out to see what he was up to. I agree (and I think that most of the members in the band at the time do as well) that they should have taken an extended break after Be Here Now, especially in the light of Noel saying that he was largely uninspired during that period anyway (and it shows with some of the throw away songs on SOTSOG and HC). Noel talked about this a bit in the recent Mojo interview.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 7, 2019 12:22:28 GMT -5
No.
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