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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 21, 2018 19:44:47 GMT -5
You guys must be forgetting about Little by Little and Hung in a Bad Place I loved when THT and HIABP were played live before the album was released and whwn the studio version came out I loved it even more. I think Noel's mistake was to bet on Force of Nature to be a lead on this album, after a very weak hit album. I actually dig Force of Nature but the lyric “smoking all my stash, burning all my cash” sounds like a 12 year old wrote it. So last and cliche. |
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Post by brumoscardo on Feb 21, 2018 22:04:12 GMT -5
Well... I actually think the song is horrible
What I remember when HC came out is listening to THT fades to FoN skip skip skip skip HIaBP>>>producing was dreadful but I really like the song.... So ok
Then fell in love with LbL and She is Love and BOaDC... What a great album
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2018 4:26:32 GMT -5
You guys must be forgetting about Little by Little and Hung in a Bad Place I loved when THT and HIABP were played live before the album was released and whwn the studio version came out I loved it even more. I think Noel's mistake was to bet on Force of Nature to be a lead on this album, after a very weak hit album. You're right, I did forget about LBL. Tune. |
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Post by Gas Panic on Feb 22, 2018 5:06:17 GMT -5
The only thing they got right with HC was the perfect choice of singles. Can you honestly imagine Force Of Nature on Time Flies alongside the likes of DLBIA and Live Forever? It's bad enough that She Is Love is on there  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2018 9:00:05 GMT -5
It's probably the greatest Oasis album from the year 2002
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Post by Spaceman on Feb 22, 2018 10:19:44 GMT -5
FON is a tune!!!
#FactsOnly
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Post by noliamno on Feb 22, 2018 10:55:23 GMT -5
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Post by guigsysEstring on Mar 5, 2018 20:12:17 GMT -5
Summer of 2002 it was. 14 years old. This forum wasn’t even existence yet, but my own hype was building. On release day, in the US I rushed to one of the renowned electronic stores of that time. Popped that beauty in and, well, beauty it wasn’t. Instant karma? Fuck that. Instant disappointment. The Hindu Times was getting a lot of airplay on US radio stations, but always thought Liam sounded rather sloppy. As far as the rest? Little by Little was a smashing song, as was SCYHO. But dispite the pleas, my crying has yet to stop on what was the worst Oasis of all time. I remember buying Definitely Maybe and listening to it on repeat! Beat that! On vinyl  |
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Post by batfink30 on Mar 6, 2018 13:46:06 GMT -5
I remember buying Definitely Maybe and listening to it on repeat! Beat that! On vinyl On tape!! |
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Post by freddy838 on Mar 6, 2018 14:20:55 GMT -5
I remember listening to it on my CD walkman for the first time in the park during a free period at college and really liking it, especially the songs Liam wrote. I still like his three tunes tbh. As time went on the bad quality of the production became more and more obvious. For me it's probably got the least enjoyable Noel-written songs of any Oasis album as well, not that they're terrible, just I don't care much for them.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2018 15:27:31 GMT -5
I remember downloading Heathen Chemistry the day it leaked, believing Noel's hype and thinking it was great. It has aged exceptionally poorly.
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Post by World71R on Mar 6, 2018 22:06:40 GMT -5
This was the only album that I actually was on the verge of dozing off to. That second half gets to be a bore with A Quick Peep, Probably All in the Mind, Born on a Different Cloud, and Better Man all right together with some very flat, boring production and poorly executed tunes that could've been better in almost any other album era. The guys made a bad decision trying to produce the album themselves having two new members and with Noel being in a slump with his songwriting. Had they brought in Spike Stent again to continue with Noel's sonic vision for post-BHN Oasis on Heathen Chemistry, I think we'd be talking about a different album than we got.
With that said, though, I think The Hindu Times, Stop Crying Your Heart Out, Little by Little, and Songbird are really good songs. Hung in a Bad Place is also a banger of rocker, and the more folk-oriented tunes, like She is Love, Songbird, and the B-side (You've Got the) Heart of a Star, sound really good. That's what makes me wish that HC would've been more folk and acoustically-oriented in some places since those tunes sound sonically-best to me.
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Post by World71R on Mar 6, 2018 22:17:46 GMT -5
Its a shame. Born On A Different Cloud had so much studio potential. I wish it was around during SOTSOG. I hate Liam's vocals on this as well. Too gruff for me. This tune deserved better. A lot better. BOADC is actually my favourite song on the album, I like the dark hopelessness vibes of the song, the ghostly organ which plays throughout the song, the 3 key changes and the distant Noel backing vocals at the end, but yes not only this tune but the whole album deserved a lot better. Agreed. An album of 1. Fuckin' in the Bushes 2. The Hindu Times 3. Go Let it Out4. Who Feels Love? 5. Let's All Make Believe 6. Where Did it All Go Wrong? (Demo)7. Gas Panic!8. Stop Crying Your Heart Out 9. Born on a Different Cloud 10. Idler's Dream
11. Roll it Over with SOTSOG production and execution would've been something quite good and important for post-BHN Oasis. |
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Post by madferitusa2025 on Mar 6, 2018 22:23:12 GMT -5
BOADC is actually my favourite song on the album, I like the dark hopelessness vibes of the song, the ghostly organ which plays throughout the song, the 3 key changes and the distant Noel backing vocals at the end, but yes not only this tune but the whole album deserved a lot better. Agreed. An album of 1. Fuckin' in the Bushes 2. The Hindu Times 3. Go Let it Out4. Who Feels Love? 5. Let's All Make Believe 6. Where Did it All Go Wrong? (Demo)7. Gas Panic!8. Stop Crying Your Heart Out 9. Born on a Different Cloud 10. Idler's Dream
11. Roll it Over with SOTSOG production and execution would've been something quite good and important for post-BHN Oasis. I'd happily take that whole list, with SOTSOG production  Of course, that's what you meant. Doh! |
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Post by beentherenow on Mar 7, 2018 1:51:02 GMT -5
BOADC is actually my favourite song on the album, I like the dark hopelessness vibes of the song, the ghostly organ which plays throughout the song, the 3 key changes and the distant Noel backing vocals at the end, but yes not only this tune but the whole album deserved a lot better. Agreed. An album of 1. Fuckin' in the Bushes 2. The Hindu Times 3. Go Let it Out4. Who Feels Love? 5. Let's All Make Believe 6. Where Did it All Go Wrong? (Demo)7. Gas Panic!8. Stop Crying Your Heart Out 9. Born on a Different Cloud 10. Idler's Dream
11. Roll it Over with SOTSOG production and execution would've been something quite good and important for post-BHN Oasis. Ive never really been a fan of the SOTSOG and HC should have been one album because I see them as too different and from different eras despite the closeness in release date. However that track list would have been great and fitted very nicely indeed. Especially if Hindu Times was closer to the demo |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Mar 7, 2018 2:04:24 GMT -5
BOADC is actually my favourite song on the album, I like the dark hopelessness vibes of the song, the ghostly organ which plays throughout the song, the 3 key changes and the distant Noel backing vocals at the end, but yes not only this tune but the whole album deserved a lot better. Agreed. An album of 1.Teotihuacan 2. The Hindu Times 3. Go Let it Out4. Who Feels Love? 5. Let's All Make Believe 6. Where Did it All Go Wrong? (Demo)7. Gas Panic!8. Stop Crying Your Heart Out 9. Born on a Different Cloud 10. Idler's Dream
11. Roll it Over with SOTSOG production and execution would've been something quite good and important for post-BHN Oasis. FIFY. Teotihuacan fits so much better. It has the atmosphere and ambiance needed for SOTSOG. FITB has no place being near anything. Can’t stand it. |
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Post by vespa on Mar 7, 2018 4:18:41 GMT -5
Was a great era over here in England ,it put the band back on the map, good album just needed producing better
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Post by globe on Mar 7, 2018 5:22:32 GMT -5
On vinyl On tape!! Had it on tape first then bought the vinyl a few months later. Same with WTSMG. I have somehow lost my original WTSMG vinyl but still have my DM vinyl. |
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Post by nikoasyouwere on Mar 7, 2018 6:52:25 GMT -5
I love HC
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2018 15:32:14 GMT -5
I don't remember who it was but one journalist called Hung In A Bad Place something like "punk with the amps turned all the way up to 7", which I think is spot-on. The whole thing was neutered by appalling production. Almost every song came across better live.
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Post by World71R on Mar 7, 2018 16:35:16 GMT -5
Agreed. An album of 1. Fuckin' in the Bushes 2. The Hindu Times 3. Go Let it Out4. Who Feels Love? 5. Let's All Make Believe 6. Where Did it All Go Wrong? (Demo)7. Gas Panic!8. Stop Crying Your Heart Out 9. Born on a Different Cloud 10. Idler's Dream
11. Roll it Over with SOTSOG production and execution would've been something quite good and important for post-BHN Oasis. Ive never really been a fan of the SOTSOG and HC should have been one album because I see them as too different and from different eras despite the closeness in release date. However that track list would have been great and fitted very nicely indeed. Especially if Hindu Times was closer to the demo Thanks! I think if you had the demo of The Hindu Times on there, you could put it after Go Let it Out to get the rest of the album going with Liam on vocals. Plus, the demo for THT is darker and is driven by a drum loop so it would fit within the "sonic evolution" theme that Noel went for on songs like WFL, LAMB, WDIAGW, and Gas Panic that would be right around THT. |
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Post by DCUnited on Mar 7, 2018 22:36:32 GMT -5
For some reason I went to Sam Goody to buy it but was a week early. Ended up pre ordering it and the store worker said Oasis sucks. I think I left the store with The Eminem Show that day.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Mar 8, 2018 16:30:09 GMT -5
For some reason I went to Sam Goody to buy it but was a week early. Ended up pre ordering it and the store worker said Oasis sucks. I think I left the store with The Eminem Show that day. I remember buying Eminem’s Marshall Mathers CD in 2000 off the hit single Real Slim Shady, and because it was ‘cool’ to buy something so explicit at 13 years of age. I played that CD when I got home, and it scared the shit out of this white upper-middle class child! Like holy fuck. Incidentally my younger sister bought the Sisqo album on that same day. Fucking insane. Year 2000 represent lol. Fuck me. |
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Post by DCUnited on Mar 8, 2018 17:24:01 GMT -5
For some reason I went to Sam Goody to buy it but was a week early. Ended up pre ordering it and the store worker said Oasis sucks. I think I left the store with The Eminem Show that day. I remember buying Eminem’s Marshall Mathers CD in 2000 of the hit single Real Slim Shady, and because it was ‘cool’ to buy something so explicit at 13 years of age. I played that CD when I got home, and it scared the shit out of this white upper-middle class child! Like holy fuck. Incidentally my younger sister bought the Sisqo album on hat same day. Fucking insane. Year 2000 represent lol. Fuck me. Thong thong thong thong thong |
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Post by guigsysEstring on Mar 8, 2018 18:08:07 GMT -5
For some reason I went to Sam Goody to buy it but was a week early. Ended up pre ordering it and the store worker said Oasis sucks. I think I left the store with The Eminem Show that day. I remember buying Eminem’s Marshall Mathers CD in 2000 of the hit single Real Slim Shady, and because it was ‘cool’ to buy something so explicit at 13 years of age. I played that CD when I got home, and it scared the shit out of this white upper-middle class child! Like holy fuck. Incidentally my younger sister bought the Sisqo album on hat same day. Fucking insane. Year 2000 represent lol. Fuck me. was right then?   Sorry Nigel that was too easy!  |
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