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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 20, 2018 14:34:22 GMT -5
Summer of 2002 it was. 14 years old.
This forum wasn’t even existence yet, but my own hype was building.
On release day, in the US I rushed to one of the renowned electronic stores of that time.
Popped that beauty in and, well, beauty it wasn’t.
Instant karma? Fuck that.
Instant disappointment.
The Hindu Times was getting a lot of airplay on US radio stations, but always thought Liam sounded rather sloppy.
As far as the rest? Little by Little was a smashing song, as was SCYHO.
But dispite the pleas, my crying has yet to stop on what was the worst Oasis album of all time.
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Post by Gas Panic on Feb 20, 2018 15:09:03 GMT -5
Summer of 2002 it was. 14 years old. This forum wasn’t even existence yet, but my own hype was building. On release day, in the US I rushed to one of the renowned electronic stores of that time. Popped that beauty in and, well, beauty it wasn’t. Instant karma? Fuck that. Instant disappointment. The Hindu Times was getting a lot of airplay on US radio stations, but always thought Liam sounded rather sloppy. As far as the rest? Little by Little was a smashing song, as was SCYHO. But dispite the pleas, my crying has yet to stop on what was the worst Oasis of all time. It's quite incredible that Oasis put this album out when only a few years earlier they had been on top of the world. Brilliant singles, truly terrible album. I've given DGSS a few listens recently and it occurred to me that it's MILES better than HC. Noel had slipped so far in the early 00s with his songwriting. I wonder where Noel and Oasis' legacy would be right now if he didn't rediscover his mojo in 2004ish? Unthinkable. |
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Post by batfink30 on Feb 20, 2018 15:10:54 GMT -5
Summer of 2002 it was. 14 years old. This forum wasn’t even existence yet, but my own hype was building. On release day, in the US I rushed to one of the renowned electronic stores of that time. Popped that beauty in and, well, beauty it wasn’t. Instant karma? Fuck that. Instant disappointment. The Hindu Times was getting a lot of airplay on US radio stations, but always thought Liam sounded rather sloppy. As far as the rest? Little by Little was a smashing song, as was SCYHO. But dispite the pleas, my crying has yet to stop on what was the worst Oasis of all time. I remember buying Definitely Maybe and listening to it on repeat! Beat that! |
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Post by standbymoi on Feb 20, 2018 15:15:48 GMT -5
Anyone got it on Cassette from the U.K.?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2018 15:49:34 GMT -5
I always say SOTSOG would've made a great EP, HC would've made a great single.
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Post by Gas Panic on Feb 20, 2018 16:00:26 GMT -5
Anyone got it on Cassette from the U.K.? I do. It's pretty rare. |
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Post by bt95 on Feb 20, 2018 16:20:52 GMT -5
I like it.
Not the best, but that album and following tour was a huge part of Oasis coming strong with DBTT.
It's also the first Oasis release I vaguely remember. I would have been 7 at the time, and SCYHO became massive during the World Cup that year (when England got knocked out of course).
My next recollection of an Oasis tune coming out would have been watching The Importance Of Idle video while in Spain with my dad, and then Lyla was on 'FIFA 06' later that year as well.
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Post by beentherenow on Feb 20, 2018 16:32:18 GMT -5
The disappointment of buying this album upon release in 2002 is something I’ll never forget
I really got into Oasis just after SOTSOG was released when a classmate of mine recommended them. So HC was the first new music which I was hearing at the same time as everyone else, twin that with the bravado claims they were coming out with and I expected the new Revolver. Hearing She is Love and Forcs of Nature was heartbreaking. Oasis were never really coming back
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 20, 2018 16:39:35 GMT -5
Summer of 2002 it was. 14 years old. This forum wasn’t even existence yet, but my own hype was building. On release day, in the US I rushed to one of the renowned electronic stores of that time. Popped that beauty in and, well, beauty it wasn’t. Instant karma? Fuck that. Instant disappointment. The Hindu Times was getting a lot of airplay on US radio stations, but always thought Liam sounded rather sloppy. As far as the rest? Little by Little was a smashing song, as was SCYHO. But dispite the pleas, my crying has yet to stop on what was the worst Oasis of all time. I don’t recall THT getting any real radio play in America. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2018 16:42:40 GMT -5
They needed to take a long break after SOTSOG.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2018 16:56:03 GMT -5
It's easy to take shots at it because the whole thing (relative to other Oasis albums) feels very grey and lacking energy. But despite all the alternate track-listings and hypothetical EPs, it still has its place in the Oasis discography.
Got a bit of a soft spot for it because it was the first full Oasis album I bought (along with Time Flies), mainly off the back of Stop Crying Your Heart Out. Most of that goodwill fades though just from comparison with the rest of the stuff Oasis released.
Just by coincidence, was listening to it earlier today, and I felt much better about it. Made me think about the Nine Inch Nails album With Teeth and Underworld's A Hundred Days Off, which were both the first albums made by Trent Reznor and (partially by) Karl Hyde respectively after getting sober. Both of those albums get criticised for similar reasons to Heathen Chemistry (i.e. primarily lacking in energy, being more bland than their previous releases), in spite of being generally more positive in outlook. I know HC's the second album after Noel stopped with the drugs, but these albums personally do seem to have that similar sort of vibe (SOTSOG's more of a during comedown album rather than a post comedown fitter happier more comfortable not drinking as much sort of album that HC is, fitting with the other two albums I mentioned).
So I think that even though they may not be the best albums released by these bands, they seem more like albums that they needed to make/felt like making at that time. And so whilst retrospectively it's easy to criticise these albums (and hypocritically I will continue to take the piss out of Probably All In The Mind because it's fun), I find it comforting that they exist, and can enjoy them when I'm in that sort of state of mind.
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Post by Let It Bleed on Feb 20, 2018 17:30:11 GMT -5
I remember buying Hi-C as a kid....
Thanks.
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Post by Headmaster on Feb 20, 2018 17:34:18 GMT -5
In 2002 I remmeber I didn't liked THT that much to begin with, SCYHO was ok, but those were new Oasis music so I was excited, but when I heard the album disappointment hit me like a truck.
Being an Oasis fan I was supposed to like this album but I didn't and I didn't know why at the time, I was 17 and I didn't know much about music apecifications like production and mixing (internet wasn't like today with yt and wiki).
Still I did notice a several lack of energy on HC, the whole band sounded tired, also Noel melodies sounded a bit generic too, Gem and Andy did worthless contributions to the album, but the worst crime of all IMO was Liam, he sounded bored throughout the album, he sounded like he wasn't even trying, just compare his vocals on HIABP to something from BHN era, it's appaling, no wonder even Liam ranked it as his worst related album ever on NME.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 20, 2018 17:45:07 GMT -5
In 2002 I remmeber I didn't liked THT that much to begin with, SCYHO was ok, but those were new Oasis music so I was excited, but when I heard the album disappointment hit me like a truck. Being an Oasis fan I was supposed to like this album but I didn't and I didn't know why at the time, I was 17 and I didn't know much about music apecifications like production and mixing (internet wasn't like today with yt and wiki). Still I did notice a several lack of energy on HC, the whole band sounded tired, also Noel melodies sounded a bit generic too, Gem and Andy did worthless contributions to the album, but the worst crime of all IMO was Liam, he sounded bored throughout the album, he sounded like he wasn't even trying, just compare his vocals on HIABP to something from BHN era, it's appaling, no wonder even Liam ranked it as his worst related album ever on NME. Its a shame. Born On A Different Cloud had so much studio potential. I wish it was around during SOTSOG. I hate Liam's vocals on this as well. Too gruff for me. This tune deserved better. A lot better. |
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Post by Headmaster on Feb 20, 2018 18:00:30 GMT -5
In 2002 I remmeber I didn't liked THT that much to begin with, SCYHO was ok, but those were new Oasis music so I was excited, but when I heard the album disappointment hit me like a truck. Being an Oasis fan I was supposed to like this album but I didn't and I didn't know why at the time, I was 17 and I didn't know much about music apecifications like production and mixing (internet wasn't like today with yt and wiki). Still I did notice a several lack of energy on HC, the whole band sounded tired, also Noel melodies sounded a bit generic too, Gem and Andy did worthless contributions to the album, but the worst crime of all IMO was Liam, he sounded bored throughout the album, he sounded like he wasn't even trying, just compare his vocals on HIABP to something from BHN era, it's appaling, no wonder even Liam ranked it as his worst related album ever on NME. Its a shame. Born On A Different Cloud had so much studio potential. I wish it was around during SOTSOG. I hate Liam's vocals on this as well. Too gruff for me. This tune deserved better. A lot better. BOADC is actually my favourite song on the album, I like the dark hopelessness vibes of the song, the ghostly organ which plays throughout the song, the 3 key changes and the distant Noel backing vocals at the end, but yes not only this tune but the whole album deserved a lot better. |
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Post by bt95 on Feb 20, 2018 18:43:01 GMT -5
The tour was ace though, and it clearly reinvigorated them as a band.
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Feb 20, 2018 19:01:06 GMT -5
i was 28
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 20, 2018 20:56:41 GMT -5
The tour was ace though, and it clearly reinvigorated them as a band. But thats what people said about the DBTT tour.  |
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Post by bt95 on Feb 21, 2018 3:06:15 GMT -5
The tour was ace though, and it clearly reinvigorated them as a band. But thats what people said about the DBTT tour. Hhaha, true  I watched 'Gold And Silver And Sunshine' last night - the doc they made for the making of DOYS All of the band were in good spirits. All of them gelling together. It's such a shame it all went downhill so quickly after that, because I think from HC onwards, even though there are clear faults with every record, as a band they'd really become excellent - with some iffy vocal performances to one side. |
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Post by globe on Feb 21, 2018 4:04:06 GMT -5
Anyone got it on Cassette from the U.K.? Aye, I have it. |
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Post by supernovadragon on Feb 21, 2018 5:07:23 GMT -5
The disappointment of buying this album upon release in 2002 is something I’ll never forget I really got into Oasis just after SOTSOG was released when a classmate of mine recommended them. So HC was the first new music which I was hearing at the same time as everyone else, twin that with the bravado claims they were coming out with and I expected the new Revolver. Hearing She is Love and Forcs of Nature was heartbreaking. Oasis were never really coming back That's how I felt with Dig Out Your Soul. I remember buying this on release day and LOVING the album. I still don't mind it now, sure Noel has written better and so has Andy and Gem but I will always say it flows far better than quite a lot of other albums I own (including Dig Out Your Soul) |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2018 18:13:18 GMT -5
Hung In A Bad Place started playing the other day and I wasn't sure what song it is because I don't listen to HC very often.
Anyway, I thought it sounded fucking great and I still think it's better than Little By Little for example.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2018 18:21:50 GMT -5
Me too! BOADC and SCYHO are great, THT is OK, the rest of the album... Not so much. |
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Feb 21, 2018 19:05:52 GMT -5
Me too! BOADC and SCYHO are great, THT is OK, the rest of the album... Not so much. i agree mate its quite weak tbh |
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Post by brumoscardo on Feb 21, 2018 19:23:48 GMT -5
You guys must be forgetting about Little by Little and Hung in a Bad Place
I loved when THT and HIABP were played live before the album was released and whwn the studio version came out I loved it even more.
I think Noel's mistake was to bet on Force of Nature to be a lead on this album, after a very weak hit album.
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