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Post by eva on Mar 9, 2018 5:52:57 GMT -5
We’ve been posting political updates in the 2016 election thread, which is obviously now dated. So here’s the thread devoted to Donald Trump’s presidency - the good, the bad, and the outrageous. And what a way to start: The breakthrough with North Korea tonight. Peace through Strength. #MAGA merged here. we don't need another fucking thread about this idiot. god, you're so obnoxious |
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Post by guigsysEstring on Mar 9, 2018 10:33:44 GMT -5
Beady’s Here Now The bottom link is taken from 38 North which is a website dedicated to NK analysis and coverage, it is less about any skills from Trump and probably more to do with the wider implications of the fall of the post-Soviet Union world order. In summary with NK claiming victory in the nuclear weapons part of byungjin policy of dual economic and nuclear weapons development (however realistic the claim actually is) they have either reached out and been rebuffed by the USA or have directly approached SK first with an olive branch, hence the current progress for talks. The growth economically and militarily of China means that they may be inclined as a result of this progress to submit a resolution lifting sanctions, which even if it is defeated or vetoed may see them unilaterally resuming trade with NK anyway and host those who wish to do business with NK, with Russia probably following suit. South Korea then has a choice with it's economic survival depending on the likes of Hyundai and Samsung, which is does it stick with US and UNSC with continued tensions or does China, etc. provide enough trade to risk offending the US by reopening economic ties and the Kaesong Industrial Zone? The latter situation would also have longer term implications for the US presence on the peninsula, the position on Taiwan and perhaps even Korean reunification with Chinese backing. All of this has been coming with the presence of Trump and his rhetoric perhaps hastening it, but do not confuse this with the man being some form of political genius. Also tagging mystoryisgory since we have discussed Chinese growth of influence and associated Russian ties in the past, and this may be of interest to you  Korea 2018: The Beginning of the End of the Post-1990 World Order?
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Post by guigsysEstring on Mar 9, 2018 10:43:00 GMT -5
To save us having pages and pages on this thread, I'll sum it up for you: He's a fucking arsehole. Succinctly put and reminded me for some reason of Frankie Boyle on Scottish diplomacy  |
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Mar 9, 2018 15:07:34 GMT -5
you dont half get some craking thumbnails of this clown on youtube  |
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Mar 9, 2018 15:10:50 GMT -5
another article of the great DJT
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Mar 9, 2018 15:13:47 GMT -5
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Mar 9, 2018 15:16:43 GMT -5
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Mar 9, 2018 15:19:00 GMT -5
 even the look on trumps face says " fuck this little shit my hair is more important" |
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Mar 9, 2018 15:21:26 GMT -5
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Mar 9, 2018 16:10:38 GMT -5
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Mar 9, 2018 18:10:17 GMT -5
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Post by guigsysEstring on Mar 9, 2018 18:15:44 GMT -5
The Tweet post from The-Ghost-Dancer was actually a tribute in itself to Donald's own lack of need for fact checking....  |
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Mar 9, 2018 18:50:48 GMT -5
im not that stupid to know the tweet is fake either way it looks funny as fuck and could very well be real
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Post by guigsysEstring on Mar 9, 2018 19:02:13 GMT -5
im not that stupid to know the tweet is fake either way it looks funny as fuck and could very well be real I had it down as a tribute to Donald's love of facts as I said before  Either way there's so much class stuff about the monumental bellend out there both fake and real. |
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Mar 9, 2018 19:12:04 GMT -5
im not that stupid to know the tweet is fake either way it looks funny as fuck and could very well be real I had it down as a tribute to Donald's love of facts as I said before Either way there's so much class stuff about the monumental bellend out there both fake and real. just made me laugh out loud dude refering to trump as a monumental bellend, a facebook mate of mine called him a wanksock which i thought was proper fuckin funny like |
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Mar 9, 2018 19:15:54 GMT -5
guigsysEstring although i reckon the best ndescription i EVER saw about trump was on a youtube comment section when someone said he looked like a boiled ham that had been rolled in straw
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Mar 10, 2018 9:53:27 GMT -5
im not that stupid to know the tweet is fake either way it looks funny as fuck and could very well be real Apologies but I didn't know what to think because I almost believed it myself. As we've learned it only takes one person with access to a corporate twitter account and that could have been real. The President of the United States is being credibly sued by a porn star after trying to cover up an affair, and that's not even the fifth biggest thing to distract us from poverty, a doomsday climate, mass incarceration, and the coming of World War 3. Nothing is too out there to happen anymore. |
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Mar 10, 2018 11:44:06 GMT -5
im not that stupid to know the tweet is fake either way it looks funny as fuck and could very well be real Apologies but I didn't know what to think because I almost believed it myself. As we've learned it only takes one person with access to a corporate twitter account and that could have been real. The President of the United States is being credibly sued by a porn star after trying to cover up an affair, and that's not even the fifth biggest thing to distract us from poverty, a doomsday climate, mass incarceration, and the coming of World War 3. Nothing is too out there to happen anymore. There is no need to apologize to me my friend, as for distractions I hear you on that I live in the uk and our news is full of distractions while the normal people get royally shafted |
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Post by playthehitsgetoff on Mar 10, 2018 13:22:27 GMT -5
Apologies but I didn't know what to think because I almost believed it myself. As we've learned it only takes one person with access to a corporate twitter account and that could have been real. The President of the United States is being credibly sued by a porn star after trying to cover up an affair, and that's not even the fifth biggest thing to distract us from poverty, a doomsday climate, mass incarceration, and the coming of World War 3. Nothing is too out there to happen anymore. There is no need to apologize to me my friend, as for distractions I hear you on that I live in the uk and our news is full of distractions while the normal people get royally shafted Aint that the truth! |
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Mar 10, 2018 17:12:02 GMT -5
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Post by guigsysEstring on Mar 10, 2018 17:17:11 GMT -5
Sums the man up really in terms of his worldview  |
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Mar 10, 2018 17:28:30 GMT -5
Sums the man up really in terms of his worldview you know something i got a soon to be 5yr old son who's more of a man than donald trump |
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Post by guigsysEstring on Mar 10, 2018 17:45:41 GMT -5
you know something i got a soon to be 5yr old son who's more of a man than donald trump I am sure that other Presidents have had similar thoughts regarding being The Chief at times but with that quote (taken from a full report at NPR in Nov 2017 HERE ) what strikes me the most is the lack of tact or understanding when it comes to dealing with the public arena as a politician. I am sure other Presidents have on occasion had similar feelings in regards to being "The Chief" in terms of decision making, but were aware of the established processes for making and implementing such decisions, and certainly would never effectively say "It's all about me" when it comes to sensitive home or overseas policies. He truly does believe his own hype and that to me makes him even more dangerous as in his own mind I wouldn't be surprised if he thought of himself as infallible. As to your son I am certain with a decent dad (and no doubt family including extended) that he will indeed grow up into a fine man, hopefully with the ability to understand other points of view and therefore be even more of a man human being than Trump or his ilk than he already is  |
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Mar 10, 2018 18:00:44 GMT -5
you know something i got a soon to be 5yr old son who's more of a man than donald trump I am sure that other Presidents have had similar thoughts regarding being The Chief at times but with that quote (taken from a full report at NPR in Nov 2017 HERE ) what strikes me the most is the lack of tact or understanding when it comes to dealing with the public arena as a politician. I am sure other Presidents have on occasion had similar feelings in regards to being "The Chief" in terms of decision making, but were aware of the established processes for making and implementing such decisions, and certainly would never effectively say "It's all about me" when it comes to sensitive home or overseas policies. He truly does believe his own hype and that to me makes him even more dangerous as in his own mind I wouldn't be surprised if he thought of himself as infallible. As to your son I am certain with a decent dad (and no doubt family including extended) that he will indeed grow up into a fine man, hopefully with the ability to understand other points of view and therefore be even more of a man human being than Trump or his ilk than he already is being POTUS must be a hard job for anyone thats ever held that office and anyone that ever will, thousands if not millions of peoples lives could be at risk if a decision is made that has a ripple effect that is global all because you have to prove a point. im just under the impression that trump dont really listen to anybody except himself and that could be dangerous as for the bairn at 5yr he knows right from wrong in his own little world , always says please and thank you,likes to share etc he's a little dude |
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Post by mystoryisgory on Mar 10, 2018 18:06:24 GMT -5
Beady’s Here Now The bottom link is taken from 38 North which is a website dedicated to NK analysis and coverage, it is less about any skills from Trump and probably more to do with the wider implications of the fall of the post-Soviet Union world order. In summary with NK claiming victory in the nuclear weapons part of byungjin policy of dual economic and nuclear weapons development (however realistic the claim actually is) they have either reached out and been rebuffed by the USA or have directly approached SK first with an olive branch, hence the current progress for talks. The growth economically and militarily of China means that they may be inclined as a result of this progress to submit a resolution lifting sanctions, which even if it is defeated or vetoed may see them unilaterally resuming trade with NK anyway and host those who wish to do business with NK, with Russia probably following suit. South Korea then has a choice with it's economic survival depending on the likes of Hyundai and Samsung, which is does it stick with US and UNSC with continued tensions or does China, etc. provide enough trade to risk offending the US by reopening economic ties and the Kaesong Industrial Zone? The latter situation would also have longer term implications for the US presence on the peninsula, the position on Taiwan and perhaps even Korean reunification with Chinese backing. All of this has been coming with the presence of Trump and his rhetoric perhaps hastening it, but do not confuse this with the man being some form of political genius. Also tagging mystoryisgory since we have discussed Chinese growth of influence and associated Russian ties in the past, and this may be of interest to you Korea 2018: The Beginning of the End of the Post-1990 World Order?
It's astonishing what Xi Jinping has done for China. He's managed to have his cake and eat it too by building a global economic power all while continuing to quash all dissent and install himself as Emperor-for-life. Really challenges the traditional capitalist view that a liberal society is necessary for innovation. Makes the people who thought back in the 90's that if the US let China integrate into the world order, they would eventually democratize, look like idiots, quite frankly. Singapore's Lee Kuan Yew summed it up best when he said that China will never democratize, nor become an honorary member of the West, and instead they will succeed on their own terms. I just didn't think it would happen so soon. I have been following the Korean situation closely. Does Trump realize what a fucking moron he is to agree meet with Kim Jong-Un? Does he realize that he's already giving them a huge concession by allowing the dictator of a renegade state, an international outcast, to be seen eye-to-eye with the President of the United States? The President of the United States. How many leaders of brutal dictatorships have the privilege of meeting the President of the United States in person? Someone who knew what he was doing would build up to this by asking for something from the North Koreans first before even agreeing to meet, if he were even to agree. Yet Trump was suckered into this because of his massive ego that fancies himself as a great negotiator. Kim keeps playing Trump for a fool. It'd be funny if it weren't so sad. Despite the gravity of the Korean crisis, I can't help but feel that it's one massive distraction. Because that't how China treats it. While the US is preoccupied with so many other things, China wins over all those countries that no American has ever heard of as it expands its One Belt, One Road project. I once read an article that suggested that, were war to break out on the Korean peninsula, the US should be prepared for Russia or China to make a bold move in the Ukraine or the South China Sea respectively while the US has nuclear war on its hands. But I think the author made a glaring omission. China would no doubt move to invade Taiwan if it knew the US was incapacitated. Think about it - Taiwan is a huge embarrassment to China that shows its inability to keep its country united. Taiwan needs to be prepared for war to break out at any time, because, mark my words, there will be war in the Taiwan Strait within the next 5 years. Which is a terrible thing for me, because I am Taiwanese-American and have many relatives and friends who live there. Luckily, Trump has, for the most part, reaffirmed the US's commitment to Taiwan, but only a few months ago, his incompetent State Department removed the Taiwanese flag from the State Department's website page on Taiwan. Wtf? (Btw, I could talk all day about Taiwanese politics if you are interested ) |
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Either way there's so much class stuff about the monumental bellend out there both fake and real.
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