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Post by The Escapist on Nov 28, 2017 12:39:15 GMT -5
sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
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Post by joladella on Nov 28, 2017 12:43:08 GMT -5
sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit Wire fan?
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Post by jaypix on Nov 28, 2017 12:44:19 GMT -5
I'm guessing 5.8.... wow, 7.1?!?! No wonder so many old school, hardcore Oasis fans are pissed about this album.
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Post by walterglass on Nov 28, 2017 12:45:40 GMT -5
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Post by jaypix on Nov 28, 2017 12:47:53 GMT -5
Yeah, I know... a day late and dollar short once again! I thought that I was being generous with the 5.8 but I guess Noel is now a darling of the Pitchfork set.
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Post by The Spider And The Fly on Nov 28, 2017 12:52:50 GMT -5
Yeah, I know... a day late and dollar short once again! I thought that I was being generous with the 5.8 but I guess Noel is now a darling of the Pitchfork set. So if AYW got 4.9 and you said 5.8. You agree with Pitchfork that WBTM is better
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Post by mimmihopps on Nov 28, 2017 13:06:59 GMT -5
Am I the only one who has zero interest in rating and charts? I guess I'm a bad fan?
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Post by eva on Nov 28, 2017 13:10:51 GMT -5
Am I the only one who has zero interest in rating and charts? I guess I'm a bad fan? +1 especially charts. So much shit in the charts
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Post by joladella on Nov 28, 2017 13:15:24 GMT -5
Am I the only one who has zero interest in rating and charts? I guess I'm a bad fan? +1 especially charts. So much shit in the charts I don't even know what Pitchfork is and why people have been wetting themselves over them for days now.
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Post by eva on Nov 28, 2017 13:17:28 GMT -5
+1 especially charts. So much shit in the charts I don't even know what Pitchwork is and why people have been wetting themselves over them for days now. just a hipster magazine with writers that hate everything, so when they criticize something you like they are all pretentious twats but now they gave Noel a good rating so yay Pitchfork
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Post by sfsorrow on Nov 28, 2017 13:20:17 GMT -5
The worst thing about this review is how it characterizes Blur's involvement in the Britpop wars as disengaged. What kind of absurd historical revisionism is that?
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Post by joladella on Nov 28, 2017 13:22:44 GMT -5
I don't even know what Pitchwork is and why people have been wetting themselves over them for days now. just a hipster magazine with writers that hate everything, so when they criticize something you like they are all pretentious twats but now they gave Noel a good rating so yay Pitchfork I mean, I'm all for anything that helps our Gallaghers, I just don't get why that one is more important than anything else, from the frenzy people here have been about it for days.
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Post by The Escapist on Nov 28, 2017 13:24:32 GMT -5
just a hipster magazine with writers that hate everything, so when they criticize something you like they are all pretentious twats but now they gave Noel a good rating so yay Pitchfork I mean, I'm all for anything that helps our Gallaghers, I just don't get why that one is more important than anything else, from the frenzy people here have been about it for days. Because Pitchfork hate anything Gallagher related with the fury of a thousand demons. For them to give Noel a score above seven is just...weird. Quite cool, though.
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Post by joladella on Nov 28, 2017 13:32:21 GMT -5
I mean, I'm all for anything that helps our Gallaghers, I just don't get why that one is more important than anything else, from the frenzy people here have been about it for days. Because Pitchfork hate anything Gallagher related with the fury of a thousand demons. For them to give Noel a score above seven is just...weird. Quite cool, though. Yeah, I get that, but what does it change for him, more than all the other really good reviews he got and so far he got a lot.
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Post by icebreath on Nov 28, 2017 13:33:34 GMT -5
I mean, I'm all for anything that helps our Gallaghers, I just don't get why that one is more important than anything else, from the frenzy people here have been about it for days. Because Pitchfork hate anything Gallagher related with the fury of a thousand demons. For them to give Noel a score above seven is just...weird. Quite cool, though. Definitely can see them revise the score after 10 years. They've done it with Oasis (the opposite way this time around), can't see why they won't be doing it with Noel.
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Post by matt on Nov 28, 2017 13:37:22 GMT -5
Never thought I’d live to see the day where Noel Gallagher got a higher score on Pitchfork than Arcade Fire. Yet here we are. Still, anything to fuck with pretentious hipsters minds is always a great thing. I bet they’re doubting everything they proclaim to know now.
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Post by ricardogce on Nov 28, 2017 13:38:22 GMT -5
I don't even know what Pitchwork is and why people have been wetting themselves over them for days now. just a hipster magazine with writers that hate everything, so when they criticize something you like they are all pretentious twats but now they gave Noel a good rating so yay Pitchfork It's not "yay Pitchfork", it's more "hahaha the kings of pretentiousness know they can't give it a poor score, because the audience they cater to loves it". I don't believe their review is at all sincere, it's just fun watching them reluctantly kiss Noel's ass after slamming him for years and years.
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Post by jaq515 on Nov 28, 2017 13:44:49 GMT -5
Never thought I’d live to see the day where Noel Gallagher got a higher score on Pitchfork than Arcade Fire. Yet here we are. Still, anything to fuck with pretentious hipsters minds is always a great thing. I bet they’re doubting everything they proclaim to know now. ☺️ Maybe If Noel doesn’t think Oasis fans can handle his ‘new’ direction or wants to lose the parka monkeys he’s actually going for pretentious American hipsters? Tho doubt they’d be into having a scissor player, or a French speech in a middle of a song
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Post by CFC2013 on Nov 28, 2017 13:52:32 GMT -5
There's a lot of backtracking in this thread....
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Post by CFC2013 on Nov 28, 2017 13:53:44 GMT -5
I mean, I'm all for anything that helps our Gallaghers, I just don't get why that one is more important than anything else, from the frenzy people here have been about it for days. Because Pitchfork hate anything Gallagher related with the fury of a thousand demons. For them to give Noel a score above seven is just...weird. Quite cool, though. I think's that's a cliche statement now. It might have applied in 2002 or something, but Pitchfork is a lot more accessible now.
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Post by matt on Nov 28, 2017 13:55:00 GMT -5
Never thought I’d live to see the day where Noel Gallagher got a higher score on Pitchfork than Arcade Fire. Yet here we are. Still, anything to fuck with pretentious hipsters minds is always a great thing. I bet they’re doubting everything they proclaim to know now. ☺️ Maybe If Noel doesn’t think Oasis fans can handle his ‘new’ direction or wants to lose the parka monkeys he’s actually going for pretentious American hipsters? Tho doubt they’d be into having a scissor player, or a French speech in a middle of a song I very much doubt he seeks out to attract the American hipster crowd. Numerous shades of grey. He can cater for tastes that are neither caveman three chord clunky pub rock or snobby self indulgent avant grade ‘art’. Noel strikes a great balance by being nowhere close to either of these two types of shit. Both at opposite ends of the musical spectrum, but more similar than they think - I.e. they’re both shite.
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Post by matt on Nov 28, 2017 13:59:30 GMT -5
Because Pitchfork hate anything Gallagher related with the fury of a thousand demons. For them to give Noel a score above seven is just...weird. Quite cool, though. I think's that's a cliche statement now. It might have applied in 2002 or something, but Pitchfork is a lot more accessible now. One thing I noticed they’ve stopped is the sneering reviews that think we’re hilarious. Also, they’ve stopped mentioning Radiohead in every single god damn review. Then it thankfully got to the point where their style of self indulgent ‘rebellious’ assessments of music was being mocked itself. Tries to be a lot more rational, and a lot more self conscious now. Though underlying it all, they’re probably repressing their ‘oh so smart sense of irony’ so much that they’ve burst numerous blood vessels.
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Post by jaq515 on Nov 28, 2017 13:59:45 GMT -5
Maybe If Noel doesn’t think Oasis fans can handle his ‘new’ direction or wants to lose the parka monkeys he’s actually going for pretentious American hipsters? Tho doubt they’d be into having a scissor player, or a French speech in a middle of a song I very much doubt he seeks out to attract the American hipster crowd. Numerous shades of grey. He can cater for tastes that are neither caveman three chord clunky pub rock or snobby self indulgent avant grade ‘art’. Noel strikes a great balance by being nowhere close to either of these two types of shit. Both at opposite ends of the musical spectrum, but more similar than they think - I.e. they’re both shite. Either way as everyone said prior doesn’t really matter what the reviews say is what means to the listener, be it either end of the spectrum or music in the middle And as other people said basically slagged pitchfork off but happy at their review surely If you don’t like something doesn’t matter their view
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Post by AubreyOasis on Nov 28, 2017 14:05:47 GMT -5
just a hipster magazine with writers that hate everything, so when they criticize something you like they are all pretentious twats but now they gave Noel a good rating so yay Pitchfork I mean, I'm all for anything that helps our Gallaghers, I just don't get why that one is more important than anything else, from the frenzy people here have been about it for days. Because Pitchfork is probably the most influential music media in the world today. That means a lot of people that would not listen to a Noel's album will now give it a listen, and I predict that many of them will like it. You could also wonder why I care whether the album is listened/successful or not. Well, don't forget Noel runs its own business and need to pay salaries every month of every year (as well as paying many expensive partying nights with Bono at expensive locations :-) ). If we want him to maintain his creative freedom, it is important that the album does at least reasonably well.
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Post by jaypix on Nov 28, 2017 14:06:47 GMT -5
I say my, my to The Spider and The Fly, I'm not the one to engage in a Liam vs. Noel war. I'm such a hopeless fanboy, my fellow Canuck, that I rate everything by the Brothers Gallagher as a 10/10. My dig is with Pitchfork where they rate most of my favourite music as crap (with the exception of the Beatles re-issue catalogue that received top grades). Bands like BRMC, the Coral, Franz Ferdinand, Fat White Family and the list goes on... (they don't even rank the Hip's albums). They tend to give a band their best rating for their first album, then it all goes downhill from there.
Look, I'll give Pitchfork one thing, at least they set themselves apart from the pack!
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