wlsky
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Post by wlsky on Sept 26, 2019 14:38:33 GMT -5
WMWN is better then DOYS?
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Post by tomlivesforever on Sept 26, 2019 14:41:23 GMT -5
Wow he's clearly been edited on the MTV gig 😂 That being said, his voice hasn't been better since 2009. I was expecting much worse with all the comments. I would expect there to be some sort of editing on any major tv performance. Just because this wasn't his best doesn't mean that another was edited to within a inch of its life. He's 46 and not that consistent.
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Post by LlAM on Sept 26, 2019 14:43:57 GMT -5
WMWN is better then DOYS? Hmmm... Good question. They're very different styles but I reckon DOYS would be better with the best songs of WMWY replacing the last 4 tracks. Bag It Up The Turning Waiting For The Rapture The Shock Of The Lightning I'm Outta Time Evil Flower Falling Down Invisible Sun Be Still One Of Us Once
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Post by mancraider on Sept 26, 2019 14:47:35 GMT -5
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Post by LlAM on Sept 26, 2019 14:49:10 GMT -5
Wow he's clearly been edited on the MTV gig 😂 That being said, his voice hasn't been better since 2009. I was expecting much worse with all the comments. I would expect there to be some sort of editing on any major tv performance. Just because this wasn't his best doesn't mean that another was edited to within a inch of its life. He's 46 and not that consistent. The difference is HUGE though Tom 🧐 And not in a "mixed a bit differently, added a bit of delay, added some middle high" kind of way.
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Post by Dangerman on Sept 26, 2019 14:52:27 GMT -5
It was a decent performance I reckon.
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Post by frogerz on Sept 26, 2019 14:55:38 GMT -5
Absolutely nothing wrong with that performance, Liam sounded good.
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Post by lynxgalla on Sept 26, 2019 14:58:40 GMT -5
Ahh I can never get through Fallon's fake intentional laugh…
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Post by lg on Sept 26, 2019 15:08:20 GMT -5
Ahh I can never get through Fallon's fake intentional laugh… Guest:*says nothing* Jimmy fallon:AHAAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAAAAH
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2019 15:11:24 GMT -5
Come Back To Me on Jimmy Fallon was great.
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Post by deadman on Sept 26, 2019 15:12:15 GMT -5
The performance wasn't too bad, but when they have to change the key of the song to accomodate Liam's live voice, it shows they aren't necessarily writing songs to suit his voice, which is a shame.
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Post by elephantstone93 on Sept 26, 2019 15:27:04 GMT -5
I would expect there to be some sort of editing on any major tv performance. Just because this wasn't his best doesn't mean that another was edited to within a inch of its life. He's 46 and not that consistent. The difference is HUGE though Tom 🧐 And not in a "mixed a bit differently, added a bit of delay, added some middle high" kind of way. How can you be so sure the unplugged gig is massively edited. We all know Liam has good and bad days, and I remember all the reactions from people at the unplugged gig praising how good his voice was.
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Post by ricardogce on Sept 26, 2019 15:29:51 GMT -5
I would expect there to be some sort of editing on any major tv performance. Just because this wasn't his best doesn't mean that another was edited to within a inch of its life. He's 46 and not that consistent. The difference is HUGE though Tom 🧐 And not in a "mixed a bit differently, added a bit of delay, added some middle high" kind of way. Almost like they're different performances weeks apart.
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Post by pliolite on Sept 26, 2019 15:40:07 GMT -5
I enjoyed the One Show performance! Obviously, that's how he and the band sound, and look, absolutely live, with no messing around, so it's a bit rough and raw, but whatever! People shouldn't judge it against stuff like the Unplugged, or e.g. the Glasto 2017 on youtube, cause that's had some vocal tuning done to it. This was STILL a great one, and I kinda wish they would just leave his voice like that for the other footage...
I always tune my own voice, it's just a fact of life... Though the few live shows I've done, it's not like it mattered that I was off in places, or that's what anyone was caring about. In a crowded room it doesn't matter one bit. On a TV performance (which obviously I've never done xD) it's a completely different kettle of fish, cause everything's so clear and you don't get the crowd/atmosphere etc. covering it.
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Post by jeffrey on Sept 26, 2019 15:45:51 GMT -5
I would expect there to be some sort of editing on any major tv performance. Just because this wasn't his best doesn't mean that another was edited to within a inch of its life. He's 46 and not that consistent. The difference is HUGE though Tom 🧐 And not in a "mixed a bit differently, added a bit of delay, added some middle high" kind of way. Except there’s not a huge difference.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2019 16:04:25 GMT -5
My only gripe with that performance is that he sounds a bit kermitey on the last word of a line here and there, but overall this is not bad and who said, some pages ago, that this is BE era like vocals, should really go watch some of the few pro shots from that era, with a full band, and see how he sounded then. Even on a average night, Liam sounds a lot better than he did back then.
Not the best performance from this album cycle, but good enough for what it is.
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Post by LlAM on Sept 26, 2019 16:23:32 GMT -5
The difference is HUGE though Tom 🧐 And not in a "mixed a bit differently, added a bit of delay, added some middle high" kind of way. Almost like they're different performances weeks apart. You seriously can't hear it's edited?
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Post by ricardogce on Sept 26, 2019 16:57:43 GMT -5
Almost like they're different performances weeks apart. You seriously can't hear it's edited? The audience clips that made it out of Unplugged tell me that if any polishing was done, it was nowhere near the level you keep insisting on. I've heard Liam Gallagher sing live since I was a kid. He's had incredible gigs and incredibly dodgy ones. This one was nowhere near his worst, and in no way suggestive of some massive editing job having been done to any other performance of his. It seems like you want to convince yourself that the worst-case scenario is true, sort of like the trolls on the Noel section posting about "the backlash". Odd.
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Post by pliolite on Sept 26, 2019 17:12:21 GMT -5
You seriously can't hear it's edited? The audience clips that made it out of Unplugged tell me that if any polishing was done, it was nowhere near the level you keep insisting on. I've heard Liam Gallagher sing live since I was a kid. He's had incredible gigs and incredibly dodgy ones. This one was nowhere near his worst, and in no way suggestive of some massive editing job having been done to any other performance of his. It seems like you want to convince yourself that the worst-case scenario is true, sort of like the trolls on the Noel section posting about "the backlash". Odd. He sounded awesome on the clips I heard. Especially Stand By Me. People should not be looking for 'perfection' here, cause it's f**kin rock n roll!!
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Post by Rolo on Sept 26, 2019 17:16:56 GMT -5
My favourite off the album and you did it proud 😊 Thanks very much igotflair I said it in 2017 and I'll repeat it now: We need a campaign to get Liam to take Rolo on as his opening act. Haha a man can dream mate, imagine the scenes. Get a few "Rolo" chants going in the crowd Thanks for the kind words man. As much as I respect Rolo for his covers he always smashes it I wouldn't want to see a support act playing songs the main act is also going to be playing. I was championing his singing, not the idea of playing Liam's own songs. You should check out Rolo's originals. Thanks again mate. Much appreciated! This last one he can offer to Liam, it would suit him just fine...and we would all love it 👍 Chorus "Do not be scared of the light.." (?) is so Liam in the best possible way 😃 Thanks very much mate. Obviously most of my stuff is heavily influenced!
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Post by Rolo on Sept 26, 2019 17:18:46 GMT -5
As for the performance tonight, it was alright, not his best but not bad at all.
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Post by GlastoEls on Sept 26, 2019 17:25:01 GMT -5
Went down there to watch this live, he sounded better in person than watching it back on the video!
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Post by Spaceman on Sept 26, 2019 17:44:22 GMT -5
Sounds fine to me. Just the song is pretty shite. It's kinda funny seeing him perform this song with a big bold ROCK N ROLL behind him tbh
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Post by stillilllife on Sept 26, 2019 18:38:32 GMT -5
WMWN is better then DOYS? Yes. A lot of pretty boring stuff on Dig out your soul. A lot of pretty good stuff on Why me? Why not, so it wins. Plus it's got Once. Dig out your soul has I'm outta time, but still...Why me? Why not has got Once.
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Post by matt on Sept 26, 2019 18:49:59 GMT -5
WMWN is better then DOYS? Yes. A lot of pretty boring stuff on Dig out your soul. A lot of pretty good stuff on Why me? Why not, so it wins. Plus it's got Once. Dig out your soul has I'm outta time, but still...Why me? Why not has got Once.
Overall. I feel like Liam’s solo effort is more satisfying. Nothing touches the peak of Shock of the Lightning or Falling Down, but the major gripe with Oasis albums post-1997 is that they are quite boring, with a lack of variety and tempos (it is basically ALL mid tempo to be fair). We can go on about Liam not wanting to experiment but sticking to the same genre doesn’t have to mean writing the same midtempo plodders every time as Oasis did. It’s also Noel’s fault for not being challenged and hiring a dunce yes man like Dave Sardy who indulged his worst habits. As a whole, these Oasis albums just don’t work. With Liam’s solo efforts, there is a conscious effort to make the albums varied. Not in genre but definitely in rhythm and tempo and it’s all the more rewarding to listen to. There’s a lot more interesting things going on musically here than anything from Oasis post-1997. I know it’s very simple but genuinely the shuffle and chord switches of Alright Now is something you wouldn’t get in latter Oasis. While some may criticise Liam’s solo efforts for being too polished and too finely crafted, it’s still preferable to something that, while authentic and not over thought (or rather under thought), sounds like a band bored off its arse like latter Oasis.
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