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Post by frogerz on Nov 10, 2017 11:22:18 GMT -5
The problem this time round is that Liam has dropped a very good album which is selling well. If this were a Beady Eye album I'm sure Noel wouldn't be slagging it off.
We all know Noel is capable of much better than what we've heard so far which is why so many of us are disappointed. Couple that with his weird persona it's bound to alianate fans.
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Nov 10, 2017 11:29:17 GMT -5
To reply to your question - it bothers ne that the man i became a fan of is basically just a bitter old man who lies alot now. His attitude has completely changed to the man i became a fan of. Of course some will disagree and thats their prerogative. For me, it just pisses me off a bit that hes become like this and lying about listening to it just to try and belittle Liam is kind of shit i think. And what is your opinion of the stuff that Liam has said about Noel? Or the "up like a shot" joke that Liam made about the Manchester attack? I'm still very much a noob here, but from the few weeks I've been noseying about these pages, it seems that most of the people in Noel's camp are a fair bit more calm and accepting of the situation, like Liam has his thing, Noel has his thing, enjoy what you want to enjoy and move on. Where as a lot of the folks in the Liam camp seem to take everything very personally and get very unsettled very easily. They can't seem to accept the fact that a large part of the Oasis fanbase are happy that one of the brothers is doing something different either. Thats not the way i see it but of course that doesnt mean you are wrong. To answer your question on the Liam stuff. Do i think its right digging Noel out on Twitter about not doing One Love? Should have done the gig and let others decide. Or mentioning his wife? Not at all and ive said that. He needs to turn his twitter off when hes drunk. Can i see why Liam does what he does? Yes i can. Yet again, not justifying the stuff i mentioned. The way i see it is Noel has played Liam like a puppet for the whole of Oasis. He even said a quote along the lines of "i know how to make him do all he does even if he thinks those decisions are his own". I seen so much of that in Oasis. Yes, theyre both as bad as each other. But guess what, liam has taken the shit from the press and wider public for how bad they BOTH are. While Noel from a high ground (that many Noel fans on here take too) has watched it happen. Then takes away Oasis from Liam and gets left with Liams comments that he always knew would come from a brother so emotional. I dont for a minute think Liam doesnt regret going over the line. I relate to Liams emotional nature and just being an honest, say it as it is person. The problem i have with Noel is hes just fucking calculated and the arrogance now shown to his fanbase alongside this calculated nature in everything he says just makes me want Liam to whipe the floor with him. As i think he is doing btw. Noels album will massively flop imo.
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Nov 10, 2017 11:32:31 GMT -5
I love how the interviewer loves As You Were and is clearly a fan of Liam. You get the bitterness in Noels responses as a result of that.
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Nov 10, 2017 11:36:09 GMT -5
The problem this time round is that Liam has dropped a very good album which is selling well. If this were a Beady Eye album I'm sure Noel wouldn't be slagging it off. We all know Noel is capable of much better than what we've heard so far which is why so many of us are disappointed. Couple that with his weird persona it's bound to alianate fans. Spot on with this post. Liam is more popular than Noel at the minute. The evidence is there for that just from ticket sales alone. If Noel announced Finsbury Park, tickets would end up as unwanted stocking fillers for the very people hes attacking for not liking She Bangs.
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Post by aesthetic on Nov 10, 2017 11:38:56 GMT -5
Yes, theyre both as bad as each other. This is by far the most sensible thing I've read of yours. They both give as good as they get, they are both lippy Mancs when they want to be. And they are both good at playing the victim card when it suits them. Just accept this, enjoy what you want of their output, and move on. I think you missed my point about the "like a shot" reference. Liam made a joke about the terrorist attack itself, not Noel, with that line. Hence why he put "ahem" after it. Liam was calling out Noel over his non attendance at the event but in the very same tweets was trivialising the attack themselves. Bad darts man, bad darts.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 10, 2017 11:41:13 GMT -5
To reply to your question - it bothers ne that the man i became a fan of is basically just a bitter old man who lies alot now. His attitude has completely changed to the man i became a fan of. Of course some will disagree and thats their prerogative. For me, it just pisses me off a bit that hes become like this and lying about listening to it just to try and belittle Liam is kind of shit i think. And what is your opinion of the stuff that Liam has said about Noel? Or the "up like a shot" joke that Liam made about the Manchester attack? I'm still very much a noob here, but from the few weeks I've been noseying about these pages, it seems that most of the people in Noel's camp are a fair bit more calm and accepting of the situation, like Liam has his thing, Noel has his thing, enjoy what you want to enjoy and move on. Where as a lot of the folks in the Liam camp seem to take everything very personally and get very unsettled very easily. They can't seem to accept the fact that a large part of the Oasis fanbase are happy that one of the brothers is doing something different either. Had you been here a little longer you would know that isn't true. Welcome to the forum!
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Post by ricardogce on Nov 10, 2017 11:42:33 GMT -5
“No. I think at the beginning, from this side of the fence, there was a lot of good will as in, yeah, man, I fucking hope it works. It’s about time. But that’s all gone now because it got personal. So it’s like, fuck what he does" That sounds about right. As much as I love Liam, he did torch a massive bridge with "shit Meg". But it kind of deflates his complaints about "an army of songwriters". Had Liam kept it civil, then Noel wouldn't be poking fun at that, he's just taking shots from the position he feels confident in. Hollow insults thrown out over petty feuds? Sounds like Liam's twitter to me, Noel ol' son. You're not that different.
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Post by aesthetic on Nov 10, 2017 11:44:42 GMT -5
And what is your opinion of the stuff that Liam has said about Noel? Or the "up like a shot" joke that Liam made about the Manchester attack? I'm still very much a noob here, but from the few weeks I've been noseying about these pages, it seems that most of the people in Noel's camp are a fair bit more calm and accepting of the situation, like Liam has his thing, Noel has his thing, enjoy what you want to enjoy and move on. Where as a lot of the folks in the Liam camp seem to take everything very personally and get very unsettled very easily. They can't seem to accept the fact that a large part of the Oasis fanbase are happy that one of the brothers is doing something different either. Had you been here a little longer you would know that isn't true. Welcome to the forum! Yeah I'm willing to accept I haven't seen the whole picture. Maybe I'm projecting my own feelings onto it and reading what I want to read. Just in general, Noel fans seem more chill and Liam fans are excitable goons with a chip on their shoulder.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 10, 2017 11:45:20 GMT -5
And what is your opinion of the stuff that Liam has said about Noel? Or the "up like a shot" joke that Liam made about the Manchester attack? I'm still very much a noob here, but from the few weeks I've been noseying about these pages, it seems that most of the people in Noel's camp are a fair bit more calm and accepting of the situation, like Liam has his thing, Noel has his thing, enjoy what you want to enjoy and move on. Where as a lot of the folks in the Liam camp seem to take everything very personally and get very unsettled very easily. They can't seem to accept the fact that a large part of the Oasis fanbase are happy that one of the brothers is doing something different either. Had you been here a little longer you would know that isn't true. Welcome to the forum! They seem to be a bit calmer in general, but there are always some obsessive crazy members, just like there are in the Liam section. They seem to be a bit more agressive though, and put Noel down a tad more, but maybe that's just me. Recently I've started to dislike people more in general though.
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Post by jxing on Nov 10, 2017 11:47:33 GMT -5
Finally, he said something funny. However, let's not forget that in the beginning Noel was the one that continually portrayed Liam as this out of control rocker.. he used that as a pr platform for so many years and when Liam embraced that persona.. Noel shunned it and then used it as a platform. That doesn't mean that any of their behavior is excusable. As for Liam's personal/ family digs... completely unacceptable but let's not forget that sara and anais have also stooped very low in their social media comments... yes, liam does it much more frequently. Neither is acceptable. And neither is justified. But, you can't displine one child for writing on the wall yet excuse the other one because he says "well, it was already ruined" Sorry, bad analogy. Basically, all of them are just as fucked up as most people/family.. the only difference is that they're issues are spotlighted in the press.
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Post by wallofass on Nov 10, 2017 11:47:33 GMT -5
Yes, theyre both as bad as each other. This is by far the most sensible thing I've read of yours. They both give as good as they get, they are both lippy Mancs when they want to be. And they are both good at playing the victim card when it suits them. Just accept this, enjoy what you want of their output, and move on. I think you missed my point about the "like a shot" reference. Liam made a joke about the terrorist attack itself, not Noel, with that line. Hence why he put "ahem" after it. Liam was calling out Noel over his non attendance at the event but in the very same tweets was trivialising the attack themselves. Bad darts man, bad darts. I like you, browse this album from afar and only posted before AYW release to get vinyl info. I must say this post made me login again. Liamgallagher1992 is expressing an opinion but yet again youve just patronisingly used language to gain a morale high ground that he alluded to. I could not be a bigger fan of Noels but i actually see this forum from the very opposite that you do. Noel fans on here seem to choose to belittle the opinions of Liam fans and imply their opinion is more level headed and knowledgeable. Both of your replies have been like bait to get a negative reaction by calling out Liamg92s previous posts, rather than just replying to his points. Yet you said you see Liam fans taking it more seriously? Maybe they are just replying to posts like yours
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 10, 2017 11:47:58 GMT -5
Had you been here a little longer you would know that isn't true. Welcome to the forum! Yeah I'm willing to accept I haven't seen the whole picture. Maybe I'm projecting my own feelings onto it and reading what I want to read. Just in general, Noel fans seem more chill and Liam fans are excitable goons with a chip on their shoulder. Definitely a good chance you've been here before, maybe several times. I wonder how long it will last this time.
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Post by aesthetic on Nov 10, 2017 11:54:30 GMT -5
Both of your replies have been like bait to get a negative reaction by calling out Liamg92s previous posts, rather than just replying to his points. Yet you said you see Liam fans taking it more seriously? Maybe they are just replying to posts like yours I can assure you there was no bait there. I really do wonder why they let it bother them so much and get so unsettled by it. I'm only going off what I read on here, and having seen this poster put very similar stuff a few times in other threads, it was a genuine inquiry.
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Post by walterglass on Nov 10, 2017 11:56:15 GMT -5
Both of your replies have been like bait to get a negative reaction by calling out Liamg92s previous posts, rather than just replying to his points. Yet you said you see Liam fans taking it more seriously? Maybe they are just replying to posts like yours I can assure you there was no bait there. I really do wonder why they let it bother them so much and get so unsettled by it. I'm only going off what I read on here, and having seen this poster put very similar stuff a few times in other threads, it was a genuine inquiry. Like...yurr 🙂
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Nov 10, 2017 11:56:27 GMT -5
Both of your replies have been like bait to get a negative reaction by calling out Liamg92s previous posts, rather than just replying to his points. Yet you said you see Liam fans taking it more seriously? Maybe they are just replying to posts like yours I can assure you there was no bait there. I really do wonder why they let it bother them so much and get so unsettled by it. I'm only going off what I read on here, and having seen this poster put very similar stuff a few times in other threads, it was a genuine inquiry. I wonder why you think me asking people why Noel is lying is me being any more bothered than you for instance, who is reading all of my posts and replying?
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 10, 2017 11:56:38 GMT -5
Both of your replies have been like bait to get a negative reaction by calling out Liamg92s previous posts, rather than just replying to his points. Yet you said you see Liam fans taking it more seriously? Maybe they are just replying to posts like yours I can assure you there was no bait there. I really do wonder why they let it bother them so much and get so unsettled by it. I'm only going off what I read on here, and having seen this poster put very similar stuff a few times in other threads, it was a genuine inquiry. tone? Is that you mate?
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Post by elephantstone93 on Nov 10, 2017 11:58:06 GMT -5
Wait do people think ‘like a shot’ was a joke about the terrorist attack? Didn’t read it like that at all. ‘Like a shot’ is a common phrase and made sense in the sentence. There was also no shooting involved. Them tweets were a huge mistake, but not for that.
Not for me, not at all.
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Post by aesthetic on Nov 10, 2017 11:58:53 GMT -5
I wonder why you think me asking people why Noel is lying is me being any more bothered than you for instance, who is reading all of my posts and replying? I don't think it is what you are saying, more the manner in which you are saying it. You seem to get very excited and emotional about it all, like you're taking it all personally or something. It's like, relax.
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Post by Just Call Me The Roller on Nov 10, 2017 11:59:05 GMT -5
This interview is a huge train wreck. Nothing funny at all. It must be tough for Noel to swallow the fact that even on Liam's worst kermit day his voice still sounds so much better than Noel's.
Roasted potato is turning into ROTTEN potato.
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Post by aesthetic on Nov 10, 2017 12:01:27 GMT -5
Wait do people think ‘like a shot’ was a joke about the terrorist attack? Didn’t read it like that at all. ‘Like a shot’ is a common phrase and made sense in the sentence. There was also no shooting involved. Them tweets were a huge mistake, but not for that. Not for me, not at all. Why did he put "like a shot...ahem"? Ahem is usually added after a sentence to imply a pun or something similiar.
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Post by AubreyOasis on Nov 10, 2017 12:02:38 GMT -5
The team Liam vs Team Noel thing was making this forum unbearable when Noel was almost not responding to Liam's digs. If now he enters the war, it will be impossible to come here for months
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Post by aesthetic on Nov 10, 2017 12:03:06 GMT -5
I can assure you there was no bait there. I really do wonder why they let it bother them so much and get so unsettled by it. I'm only going off what I read on here, and having seen this poster put very similar stuff a few times in other threads, it was a genuine inquiry. tone? Is that you mate? I wish I had enough knowledge of the history of this place to play along, but alas not. I'm not the person or persons you are looking for.
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Post by elephantstone93 on Nov 10, 2017 12:03:48 GMT -5
Wait do people think ‘like a shot’ was a joke about the terrorist attack? Didn’t read it like that at all. ‘Like a shot’ is a common phrase and made sense in the sentence. There was also no shooting involved. Them tweets were a huge mistake, but not for that. Not for me, not at all. Why did he put "like a shot...ahem"? Ahem is usually added after a sentence to imply a pun or something similiar. I’ve never used it after a pun. And it wouldn’t make sense as a pun, there was no shooting.
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Nov 10, 2017 12:05:42 GMT -5
I wonder why you think me asking people why Noel is lying is me being any more bothered than you for instance, who is reading all of my posts and replying? I don't think it is what you are saying, more the manner in which you are saying it. You seem to get very excited and emotional about it all, like you're taking it all personally or something. It's like, relax. Surely that would be your interpretation of the text you are reading, rather than a factual indictment on the one posting it.
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Post by aesthetic on Nov 10, 2017 12:05:52 GMT -5
Why did he put "like a shot...ahem"? Ahem is usually added after a sentence to imply a pun or something similiar. I’ve never used it after a pun. And it wouldn’t make sense as a pun, there was no shooting. It doesn't make sense that he claimed his account was hacked and yet the tweet is still there.
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