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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 10, 2017 19:21:43 GMT -5
Serious question for some of you - does Noel's comments hurt you guys personally? I don't know if I was one of the people you aimed this at but the answer is no, nothing he says hurts me personally. In a wider sense I find it easy these days to form a opinion of Noel with little regard for what he says about Liam or vice versa. Its a feud I may comment on sometimes but its thorny problem to get at when none of us really know the facts, we can speculate of course but its not worth getting upset about. My opinion of Noel has plummeted more because of quite a few other things he's said totally unrelated to Liam. I guess it makes it easier for some people to believe its just because you might prefer Liam but I think thats unfair.
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Post by Fade In-Out on Nov 10, 2017 19:34:57 GMT -5
You know you're on an Oasis fan forum right? And Oasis were cracking in their day......20 years ago. Things have moved on musically and with the band. I don't want to go to a 90s night with Liam trying to recreate old classics and bringing in a co-writer to get the Oasis sound back. It's shit. This
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Nov 10, 2017 19:35:58 GMT -5
Because you'd be in for a rude awakening tbh Once again, you know absolutely nothing about me and who I am. So how could you possibly make that claim also? Very odd. This entire thread has been like reading bathroom stall graffiti. You are very right to react like this to someone posting something like that directed at you. But you also shouldnt be making comments like people should be sectioned. Nothing on here is a reflection of anyones real persona. If it is then everyones just a boring vagina really
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Nov 10, 2017 19:37:02 GMT -5
I cannot get my head around people on this forum talking about Oasis as if they were some washed up band who had their day in 95 like we are on some fucking BBC Point Of View discussion board
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Post by neila83 on Nov 10, 2017 20:04:38 GMT -5
Never mind Liam, this forum needs to see a psychiatrist. It's gone completely out to lunch.
There's no point commenting. Even if you try to be balanced and say that actually both brothers behave like childish dicks a lot of the time, someone stalks your posts to accuse you of being a fanboy of one or the other. I've said that I think Liam is coming across better at the moment and I still get shit from Liam fans. It's tiresome.
The trouble is some here genuinely don't seem to believe it's possible for anyone to be balanced and have a fair opinion on both. They have to put you in a camp because they are. And it is killing the forum really. I call Noel and Liam out on shit. Why some have to defend one like they're a personal friend I don't know, it's weird. I wish some could just accept when their 'side' is being a dick without having to go 'but what about?!' Neither Liam or Noel will know or care what you say about them. Sorry if that hurts.
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Post by headshrinker84 on Nov 10, 2017 20:06:51 GMT -5
Never mind Liam, this forum needs to see a psychiatrist. It's gone completely out to lunch. There's no point commenting. Even if you try to be balanced and say that actually both brothers behave like childish dicks a lot of the time, someone stalks your posts to accuse you of being a fanboy of one or the other. I've said that I think Liam is coming across better at the moment and I still get shit from Liam fans. It's tiresome. The trouble is some here genuinely don't seem to believe it's possible for anyone to be balanced and have a fair opinion on both. They have to put you in a camp because they are. And it is killing the forum really. I call Noel and Liam out on shit. Why some have to defend one like they're a personal friend I don't know, it's weird. I wish some could just accept when their 'side' is being a dick without having to go 'but what about?!' Neither Liam or Noel will know or care what you say about them. Sorry if that hurts. Spot on.
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Post by DCUnited on Nov 10, 2017 20:30:47 GMT -5
I rather it be like this then how it was for a couple of years. People care again. Nothing was going on for a long time and this place was dead.
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Nov 10, 2017 20:41:22 GMT -5
Can i ask why people are using terms like killing the forum etc?
I dont see anything thats gone overboard and we are discussing a topic that would be natural for any other band forum if their members split. I bet theres a big Team Robbie and Team Gary on Take That's forum.
I could understand it if everything went off topic and we started getting personal but its remained a quite healthy debate from what i can see. There's always been vaginas on here, that hasnt changed. The forum is dead when neither brother are releasing anything and the biggest discussion is type of Just For Men Noel uses.
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Post by glider on Nov 10, 2017 20:50:06 GMT -5
Serious question for some of you - does Noel's comments hurt you guys personally? I don't know if I was one of the people you aimed this at but the answer is no, nothing he says hurts me personally. In a wider sense I find it easy these days to form a opinion of Noel with little regard for what he says about Liam or vice versa. Its a feud I may comment on sometimes but its thorny problem to get at when none of us really know the facts, we can speculate of course but its not worth getting upset about. My opinion of Noel has plummeted more because of quite a few other things he's said totally unrelated to Liam. I guess it makes it easier for some people to believe its just because you might prefer Liam but I think thats unfair. It wasn't an aim at you, just the general nucleus of fans on the board that seem to take things very seriously that comes from Noel's mouth. Maybe because I'm in my early 20s and haven't been a fan as long as others, but I've never had a sense of attachment to either brother.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 10, 2017 21:02:59 GMT -5
Never mind Liam, this forum needs to see a psychiatrist. It's gone completely out to lunch. There's no point commenting. Even if you try to be balanced and say that actually both brothers behave like childish dicks a lot of the time, someone stalks your posts to accuse you of being a fanboy of one or the other. I've said that I think Liam is coming across better at the moment and I still get shit from Liam fans. It's tiresome. The trouble is some here genuinely don't seem to believe it's possible for anyone to be balanced and have a fair opinion on both. They have to put you in a camp because they are. And it is killing the forum really. I call Noel and Liam out on shit. Why some have to defend one like they're a personal friend I don't know, it's weird. I wish some could just accept when their 'side' is being a dick without having to go 'but what about?!' Neither Liam or Noel will know or care what you say about them. Sorry if that hurts. Spot on. No, not really. Firstly I don't think anyone has gone mad or is mad its just the standard overreaction to overreaction and secondly the well worn falsehood that people might even seriously believe that Noel or Liam care what they think about them. The final sentence is just another way of putting people down.
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Post by headshrinker84 on Nov 10, 2017 22:06:04 GMT -5
No, not really. Firstly I don't think anyone has gone mad or is mad its just the standard overreaction to overreaction and secondly the well worn falsehood that people might even seriously believe that Noel or Liam care what they think about them. The final sentence is just another way of putting people down. I would definitely disagree about that.
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Post by justaroundmidnight on Nov 11, 2017 0:15:38 GMT -5
It's all downhill from here Noel. Karma
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Post by garys on Nov 11, 2017 0:24:04 GMT -5
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 11, 2017 1:23:00 GMT -5
Never mind Liam, this forum needs to see a psychiatrist. It's gone completely out to lunch. There's no point commenting. Even if you try to be balanced and say that actually both brothers behave like childish dicks a lot of the time, someone stalks your posts to accuse you of being a fanboy of one or the other. I've said that I think Liam is coming across better at the moment and I still get shit from Liam fans. It's tiresome. The trouble is some here genuinely don't seem to believe it's possible for anyone to be balanced and have a fair opinion on both. They have to put you in a camp because they are. And it is killing the forum really. I call Noel and Liam out on shit. Why some have to defend one like they're a personal friend I don't know, it's weird. I wish some could just accept when their 'side' is being a dick without having to go 'but what about?!' Neither Liam or Noel will know or care what you say about them. Sorry if that hurts. This is almost exactly what I said recently in another thread and it's so good to see people have that same opinion. I've said it before, but I've never come across an internet forum like this before and I've been a member on various forums for over a decade (but this one and a Beatles forum are the only ones I'm still active on). Such a hostile forum sometimes. This whole Liam vs Noel thing disgusts me. I mean, you have a perfectly fine thread, but to get to decent posts you first have to wade through 6 pages of shit or something. I really feel for the mods sometimes. That whole camp thing bothers me as well. How many times have I been accused of "wanting Liam to fail or being fake about his success" or nonsense like that, just because I like NGHFB more than I liked Beady Eye? I mean, can't I like both? What am I, a simpleton? Does it have to be one or the other? I bought tickets for both and I assure you I wouldn't do that if I didn't like both's music. I mean, I can't afford to buy tickets just for the hell of it.
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Post by aesthetic on Nov 11, 2017 2:01:24 GMT -5
I don't believe I ever used the word obnoxious? Although that is probably a valid observation Would it make you feel better if I said my name was Tony? You could always explain how you justify your opinion of different fans on here when usuing descriptions like that. I knew it was you Tony, you really must change your writing style. How bout I don't, but you can pretend I can did.
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Post by dennizz on Nov 11, 2017 2:02:58 GMT -5
about the songwriting thing: Liam got help in the songwriting department because he knows he need it. Noel got David Holmes in to colour in his album musicaly. What's the difference?? Also, Noel once said Beady Eye was a great band missing a good songwriter.Noel As You Were is full of great songs, who cares who wrote them??
About the tweets: Some of the tweets from Liam were disgraceful but he does give Noel compliments and love too. Noels comments are full of hate recently. Insulting Oasis fans was a big mistake by Noel, i think that put a lot of people of. It almost makes me think he's lost sight of who made him this big in the first place.
I wish people would stop putting people in a noel or liam corner just because of an opinion. I'm not going to take sides, but at the minute Liam's music is doing more for me than the tunes Noel has let out at the world. That can change when i hear the full studio album, maybe it will all come together on it.
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Post by supernovastar94 on Nov 11, 2017 2:25:19 GMT -5
Haha I knew this forum would lose it because of the Noel interview.
By the way, I can't understand why some people are really so offended with Noel's comments, especially about the "parka monkeys" and all that. I've been an Oasis fan for over 20 years, I have spent a lot of money on the Gallagher brothers over the years, and considering I am from a "third world" country believe me it was difficult at times. The band and them really have been a very large part of my life. Saying that, I don't feel they don't owe me anything. Liam and Noel can do whatever the fuck they want, I don't have any power over them, I don't have any right to think they should make music to please me. It's their lives, their music, their decisions, and as long as they continue to make music, I will benefit for it. I would like some stuff more, some other not so much. As Noel says, he'll make another album, and then another. I love what he's doing right now, and I loved the previous two HFB albums, and I love AYW. I totally understand that he feels hurt by Liam and that he tries to demean him, and that sometimes he comes across as a boring old git. That won't make me want to hear AYW any less, same as my hype for WBTM hasn't diminished. Some people here really should relax and don't take it too personal.
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Post by Jgrp on Nov 11, 2017 2:38:27 GMT -5
Noel’s a c@nt
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Post by daviesh on Nov 11, 2017 2:56:14 GMT -5
You know you're on an Oasis fan forum right? And Oasis were cracking in their day......20 years ago. Things have moved on musically and with the band. I don't want to go to a 90s night with Liam trying to recreate old classics and bringing in a co-writer to get the Oasis sound back. It's shit. Please explain, why the fuck are you here then?
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Post by janedoe on Nov 11, 2017 3:08:36 GMT -5
Do Noel fans not realise how fucking boring it is to constantly talk about the liam fans on here in this patronising, condescending way? If its like you say then all of you have 40k a year jobs and quietly taking a break from getting a blow job off your P.A to put us liam fans who are slaving away in a factory or better still on the fucking dole watching tipping point, in our place. In what industry would someone get a PA while on 40k per year? Asking for a friend. I'm proud of your restraint in not referring to the blow job in your question
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Post by shoreline on Nov 11, 2017 3:14:20 GMT -5
#teampaul ftw
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Nov 11, 2017 3:18:56 GMT -5
On a side note. The extremes Noel is going to to cover up the backlash to the new material is laughable. Comparing not being comfortable with using a riff to not being comfortable listening to a shit song is very different. To also just use this excuse that its because hes using new instruments and has a woman in a cape is just fucking outrageous. If he come on and played Live Forever for the first time and had the woman saw someones arm off on stage, no one would give a shit. Its because its such bad music to combine with this desperate new image and sound is whats making people think hes lost the plot. You may think its bad music. I (and others) think this new music is the best stuff he has done in years.
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Post by deasy on Nov 11, 2017 3:19:44 GMT -5
Can i ask why people are using terms like killing the forum etc? I dont see anything thats gone overboard and we are discussing a topic that would be natural for any other band forum if their members split. I bet theres a big Team Robbie and Team Gary on Take That's forum. I could understand it if everything went off topic and we started getting personal but i ts remained a quite healthy debate from what i can see. There's always been vaginas on here, that hasnt changed. The forum is dead when neither brother are releasing anything and the biggest discussion is type of Just For Men Noel uses. Very healthy debating indeed. everything he says just makes me want Liam to whipe the floor with him. As i think he is doing btw. Noels album will massively flop imo. I prefer my version. I sing she bangs on the chorus too. If Noel announced Finsbury Park, tickets would end up as unwanted stocking fillers for the very people hes attacking for not liking She Bangs. Nice that someones promoting your album for you anyway Noel. Lets try and break the top 70 with the next single yeaj?
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Post by deasy on Nov 11, 2017 3:21:08 GMT -5
In what industry would someone get a PA while on 40k per year? Asking for a friend. I'm proud of your restraint in not referring to the blow job in your question I couldn't care less about that, I just want a PA.
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Nov 11, 2017 3:29:14 GMT -5
Can i ask why people are using terms like killing the forum etc? I dont see anything thats gone overboard and we are discussing a topic that would be natural for any other band forum if their members split. I bet theres a big Team Robbie and Team Gary on Take That's forum. I could understand it if everything went off topic and we started getting personal but i ts remained a quite healthy debate from what i can see. There's always been vaginas on here, that hasnt changed. The forum is dead when neither brother are releasing anything and the biggest discussion is type of Just For Men Noel uses. Very healthy debating indeed. everything he says just makes me want Liam to whipe the floor with him. As i think he is doing btw. Noels album will massively flop imo. I prefer my version. I sing she bangs on the chorus too. If Noel announced Finsbury Park, tickets would end up as unwanted stocking fillers for the very people hes attacking for not liking She Bangs. Nice that someones promoting your album for you anyway Noel. Lets try and break the top 70 with the next single yeaj? Oh come on, lets not police the humour. Nothing is going to make anyone offended in any of that. Its all meant to be taken light hearted.
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