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Post by mancraider on Mar 4, 2018 9:51:29 GMT -5
If he's back for Berlin then has probably over indulged on day off. No way your getting over a serious sinus infection in one day.
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Post by bt95 on Mar 4, 2018 10:03:09 GMT -5
If he's back for Berlin then has probably over indulged on day off. No way your getting over a serious sinus infection in one day. He wouldn't cancel for a hangover mate. Genuinely, he's not that much of a dick. It's likely that he has got a bit of an illness/cold and his voice has gone - because he's been using it at full throttle with little rest for the past week. And ultimately, it can't hack it.
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Post by bt95 on Mar 4, 2018 10:07:31 GMT -5
When Liam says "See you in Berlin tomorrow" I'm pretty sure he will be playing. My guess is that he's just not feeling too good and decided to cancel Cologne and instead be ready for Berlin and the rest of the Europe tour. And yeah, i'm Berlin right now:) Yeah but it's weird because he said it's an infection and that shit might take weeks to go away... He did, but it's probably just a case of a bad cold brought on by the weather and the fact he's been using his voice at full power over the past 9 days. His 'days off' he will have spent travelling, either on planes or on a tour bus. It's not gonna be good for his voice when it's all that stuff combined. I'm hoping it's just a decision of being cruel to be kind and that - like linddenmark says - he's giving it an extra bit of rest today in order to be fit for the rest of the tour. Only three gigs left. We'll find out for sure tomorrow.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Mar 4, 2018 10:11:44 GMT -5
He won't of totally recovered but as long as he feels he's well enough to finish it I'm sure it will go ahead.
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Post by bt95 on Mar 4, 2018 10:17:13 GMT -5
He won't of totally recovered but as long as he feels he's well enough to finish it I'm sure it will go ahead. I really wished they'd have learnt their lessons from the U.S. tour and separated the European tour into two halves. Could easily have been done, with a 5-6 day rest period in between Spain/Italy/France and then Germany/Scandinavia/the lowlands I know it's not a 'huge' tour, and his voice is back on top form, but it's clear how much effort he has to put in. And that means that when he does have a bug/soreness, the chances of him either playing or getting over it quickly are limited. I knew there was a risk of this when I booked my Amsterdam ticket, like, so I'm to blame for that, I suppose :/
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Post by mancraider on Mar 4, 2018 10:21:36 GMT -5
If he's back for Berlin then has probably over indulged on day off. No way your getting over a serious sinus infection in one day. He wouldn't cancel for a hangover mate. Genuinely, he's not that much of a dick. It's likely that he has got a bit of an illness/cold and his voice has gone - because he's been using it at full throttle with little rest for the past week. And ultimately, it can't hack it. Not for a headache but you can temporarily lose your voice as well. He must be confident it'll be ok by tomorrow if he's saying see you in Berlin. I'm not trying to dig him out but im just saying a sinus infection doesn't clear up that quickly usually. He should put Rolo on a retainer to step in whenever this happens lol 😂😂.
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Post by frogerz on Mar 4, 2018 10:51:23 GMT -5
Am I right in thinking that Berlin and Amsterdam are the biggest venues of the European tour? If so you can understand why he's cancelled tonight so they definitely play those.
Although I'm still concerned he's saying he has an infection but he'll play Berlin 24 hours later..
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Post by bt95 on Mar 4, 2018 11:19:11 GMT -5
Am I right in thinking that Berlin and Amsterdam are the biggest venues of the European tour? If so you can understand why he's cancelled tonight so they definitely play those. Although I'm still concerned he's saying he has an infection but he'll play Berlin 24 hours later.. aye, Berlin Columbiahalle is 3500. AFAS Live is 5500.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2018 11:52:44 GMT -5
I hope I don't get ill before Amsterdam because I got a clever idea of walking 7km home in -20c weather from the bar instead of paying 20€ for the taxi last night... Thought it's not too bad but it took over an hour even though I was running half of the trip Sorry offtopic
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Post by coolprophet on Mar 4, 2018 12:46:25 GMT -5
Am I right in thinking that Berlin and Amsterdam are the biggest venues of the European tour? If so you can understand why he's cancelled tonight so they definitely play those. Although I'm still concerned he's saying he has an infection but he'll play Berlin 24 hours later.. aye, Berlin Columbiahalle is 3500. AFAS Live is 5500. Cologne was moved to a bigger venue early and still sold out months ago. Would have been 4000 capacity.
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Post by bt95 on Mar 4, 2018 13:15:31 GMT -5
aye, Berlin Columbiahalle is 3500. AFAS Live is 5500. Cologne was moved to a bigger venue early and still sold out months ago. Would have been 4000 capacity. :/
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2018 14:17:15 GMT -5
Yeah but it's weird because he said it's an infection and that shit might take weeks to go away... He did, but it's probably just a case of a bad cold brought on by the weather and the fact he's been using his voice at full power over the past 9 days. His 'days off' he will have spent travelling, either on planes or on a tour bus. It's not gonna be good for his voice when it's all that stuff combined. I'm hoping it's just a decision of being cruel to be kind and that - like linddenmark says - he's giving it an extra bit of rest today in order to be fit for the rest of the tour. Only three gigs left. We'll find out for sure tomorrow. Liam didn’t travel; he’s still in Paris.
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Post by thomas11 on Mar 4, 2018 14:21:45 GMT -5
He did, but it's probably just a case of a bad cold brought on by the weather and the fact he's been using his voice at full power over the past 9 days. His 'days off' he will have spent travelling, either on planes or on a tour bus. It's not gonna be good for his voice when it's all that stuff combined. I'm hoping it's just a decision of being cruel to be kind and that - like linddenmark says - he's giving it an extra bit of rest today in order to be fit for the rest of the tour. Only three gigs left. We'll find out for sure tomorrow. Liam didn’t travel; he’s still in Paris. The Band is in cologne. Saw a Pic on Intaram. Maybe they travel seperate...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2018 14:26:21 GMT -5
Liam didn’t travel; he’s still in Paris. The Band is in cologne. Saw a Pic on Intaram. Maybe they travel seperate... Yep they do.
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Post by bt95 on Mar 4, 2018 14:30:27 GMT -5
He did, but it's probably just a case of a bad cold brought on by the weather and the fact he's been using his voice at full power over the past 9 days. His 'days off' he will have spent travelling, either on planes or on a tour bus. It's not gonna be good for his voice when it's all that stuff combined. I'm hoping it's just a decision of being cruel to be kind and that - like linddenmark says - he's giving it an extra bit of rest today in order to be fit for the rest of the tour. Only three gigs left. We'll find out for sure tomorrow. Liam didn’t travel; he’s still in Paris. As in previous days off, he'll have spent travelling They aren't 'days off' as such - and sitting on a plane/bus for several hours isn't good for anybody if they're under the weather (especially with the actual weather atm!) Edit: btw, how d'you know he's still in Paris haha?
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Post by rekrelf on Mar 4, 2018 15:03:33 GMT -5
aye, Berlin Columbiahalle is 3500. AFAS Live is 5500. Cologne was moved to a bigger venue early and still sold out months ago. Would have been 4000 capacity. Just wanted to write the same. The Palladium in Cologne is bigger than the venue in Berlin. I also was with some friends on the way to Cologne when we heard it. Tooo sad. I really hope he will play that gig in the next weeks....
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Post by sledgehammer87 on Mar 4, 2018 16:01:48 GMT -5
I just got home from cologne, what a bummer, meh. But at least I didn't have to travel that far (less than two hours by train). I met a bloke who came all the way from moscow to see that gig, now THAT is what I call tough luck. so my 'brother in misfortune' as you jokingly called us: If you read this: greetings to russia and have a nice one.
But I have so say this whole situtation seems weird to me. the gig was cancelled because of 'illness' while the gig in berlin tomorrow will most likely take place? Is it possible that today's gig really was cancelled because of a bomb thread or anything like that? this seems kind of fishy to me
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Post by markp on Mar 4, 2018 16:13:39 GMT -5
His schedule isn't that rough. Liam's only 45 he should be able to handle it. Bands that are much older have tougher schedules and still manage it. No way he has an infection like he say if he's confident of doing Berlin tomorrow. Got tickets for Amsterdam, knew when I bought them he wouldn't play.
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Post by bt95 on Mar 4, 2018 16:32:05 GMT -5
His schedule isn't that rough. Liam's only 45 he should be able to handle it. Bands that are much older have tougher schedules and still manage it. No way he has an infection like he say if he's confident of doing Berlin tomorrow. Got tickets for Amsterdam, knew when I bought them he wouldn't play. It's not about his age. It's about how he sings and how much power he puts in. From an actual singing perspective, Liam's style is all wrong. It's literally the opposite of how you would get taught by a musician/singer. Everything he does is opposed to the 'classic' way of singing. Combine doing that several nights on the bounce and travelling on your days off in minus temperatures, then if you get a sore throat/cold it's gonna magnify it.
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Post by markp on Mar 4, 2018 16:47:23 GMT -5
His schedule isn't that rough. Liam's only 45 he should be able to handle it. Bands that are much older have tougher schedules and still manage it. No way he has an infection like he say if he's confident of doing Berlin tomorrow. Got tickets for Amsterdam, knew when I bought them he wouldn't play. It's not about his age. It's about how he sings and how much power he puts in. From an actual singing perspective, Liam's style is all wrong. It's literally the opposite of how you would get taught by a musician/singer. Everything he does is opposed to the 'classic' way of singing. Combine doing that several nights on the bounce and travelling on your days off in minus temperatures, then if you get a sore throat/cold it's gonna magnify it. I get your point but I'm sure by now he knows this. Also plenty other artists have unorthodox styles and still have a schedule of 100+ 2hr shows a tour and manage it. Its not like he's traveling on budget. Perhaps he should cut the drugs and the drink if he wants to be taken seriously as a solo artist, because now he's slipping into the same old Liam and people will get sick. He's only done 6 shows this leg. As much as I love Liam but this is laughable.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2018 16:49:19 GMT -5
The problem is Hoshimoto i reckon. Thyroid problems are not something to laugh at, they can really fuck your voice up to the point you can only speak in a lower tone.
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Post by bt95 on Mar 4, 2018 16:51:17 GMT -5
It's not about his age. It's about how he sings and how much power he puts in. From an actual singing perspective, Liam's style is all wrong. It's literally the opposite of how you would get taught by a musician/singer. Everything he does is opposed to the 'classic' way of singing. Combine doing that several nights on the bounce and travelling on your days off in minus temperatures, then if you get a sore throat/cold it's gonna magnify it. I get your point but I'm sure by now he knows this. Also plenty other artists have unorthodox styles and still have a schedule of 100+ 2hr shows a tour and manage it. Its not like he's traveling on budget. Perhaps he should cut the drugs and the drink if he wants to be taken seriously as a solo artist, because now he's slipping into the same old Liam and people will get sick. He's only done 6 shows this leg. As much as I love Liam but this is laughable. Where's the evidence he's been taking drugs? Supposedly he's very much clean now and he certainly takes care of his voice. The people here that need to be questioned are his management, ultimately. They've done a greta job overall but the US tour should have been the warning they needed. Split the tours up. His voice simply can't hack it anymore. Quality over quantity. Two sections of a tour with a five-day rest in between would have been fine. Six one week, six two weeks' after. The festival circuits in the summer aren't too bad, as it's maximum 3 gigs per-week, really. I agree with your sentiment mate, but if he's ill he's ill. It's shite and I'm worried for Amsterdam, but at the end of the day we all knew it was going too smoothly. Liam's tour organisers need to get smart quick or, as you've said, the fans will begin to get angry.
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Post by markp on Mar 4, 2018 17:00:15 GMT -5
I get your point but I'm sure by now he knows this. Also plenty other artists have unorthodox styles and still have a schedule of 100+ 2hr shows a tour and manage it. Its not like he's traveling on budget. Perhaps he should cut the drugs and the drink if he wants to be taken seriously as a solo artist, because now he's slipping into the same old Liam and people will get sick. He's only done 6 shows this leg. As much as I love Liam but this is laughable. Where's the evidence he's been taking drugs? Supposedly he's very much clean now and he certainly takes care of his voice. The people here that need to be questioned are his management, ultimately. They've done a greta job overall but the US tour should have been the warning they needed. Split the tours up. His voice simply can't hack it anymore. Quality over quantity. Two sections of a tour with a five-day rest in between would have been fine. Six one week, six two weeks' after. The festival circuits in the summer aren't too bad, as it's maximum 3 gigs per-week, really. I agree with your sentiment mate, but if he's ill he's ill. It's shite and I'm worried for Amsterdam, but at the end of the day we all knew it was going too smoothly. Liam's tour organisers need to get smart quick or, as you've said, the fans will begin to get angry. I have no problem if he's ill nothing you can do, but we'll see tomorrow. If I was his management id tell him to cut all the award shows, TV shows and private shows to make sure he can play to the fans that pay and travel a long way for an actual show. He's doing way to much of that imo. I also agree with spreading the shows out as much as he needs, he must have learned his lesson by now. Its just so frustrating and easily avoidable.
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Post by bt95 on Mar 4, 2018 17:07:06 GMT -5
Where's the evidence he's been taking drugs? Supposedly he's very much clean now and he certainly takes care of his voice. The people here that need to be questioned are his management, ultimately. They've done a greta job overall but the US tour should have been the warning they needed. Split the tours up. His voice simply can't hack it anymore. Quality over quantity. Two sections of a tour with a five-day rest in between would have been fine. Six one week, six two weeks' after. The festival circuits in the summer aren't too bad, as it's maximum 3 gigs per-week, really. I agree with your sentiment mate, but if he's ill he's ill. It's shite and I'm worried for Amsterdam, but at the end of the day we all knew it was going too smoothly. Liam's tour organisers need to get smart quick or, as you've said, the fans will begin to get angry. I have no problem if he's ill nothing you can do, but we'll see tomorrow. If I was his management id tell him to cut all the award shows, TV shows and private shows to make sure he can play to the fans that pay and travel a long way for an actual show. He's doing way to much of that imo. I also agree with spreading the shows out as much as he needs, he must have learned his lesson by now. Its just so frustrating and easily avoidable. Yep. I'm dreading a tweet tomorrow saying Berlin's off. But, if he hasn't confirmed it by tomorrow midday, then we can assume it's on. The issue will be how that then affects his voice for Brussels/Amsterdam, though!
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Post by Norbert Gallhager on Mar 4, 2018 17:13:08 GMT -5
Liam didn’t travel; he’s still in Paris. As in previous days off, he'll have spent travelling They aren't 'days off' as such - and sitting on a plane/bus for several hours isn't good for anybody if they're under the weather (especially with the actual weather atm!) Edit: btw, how d'you know he's still in Paris haha? He's in Cologne right now. A friend of mine who works in a hotel texted me to say: Guess who just checked in?
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