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Post by tomlivesforever on Jun 28, 2018 12:18:39 GMT -5
Doesn’t the ‘progressive’ left proclaim themselves to be tolerant? They’ve turned into the very thing they claim to hate! They are the most arrogant people on Earth Oh the irony. You can't even see how small minded and revealing about you that is.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jun 28, 2018 12:23:39 GMT -5
Is Kathy Griffin a progressive? She supported Hillary in the primaries. Let's not be pedantic. The name calling, the mob rule mentality, and harassing and intimidating politicians in their private life really needs to stop. You wouldn't accept this from your child in kindergarten and you most certainly shouldn't be accepting it from actual adults. The Left needs to stop throwing hissy fits because they didn't get their way. This is only going to escalate, and people will end up being killed by such immature and unhinged behaviors. The more the left acts like this, the less attractive they become as a political movement. How about actually sitting down and coming up with actual policies instead of inaccurately calling the other side 'Nazis'? This is the behavior of a petulant five year old. Sad. I find it very ironic that the same behaviors the left find deplorable about Trump are the very same behaviors they are now enacting. Are you talking about your president? Oh and if your private life includes paying off porn stars you fucked then yeah questions will be asked about your personal judgement. You seem are just as extreme as the people you're having a pop at, most people I know who are left leaning who support socialist policies are no where near what you describe. Maybe if you lot shared out a bit of that wealth people would stop looking to the fringes.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2018 12:25:16 GMT -5
Didn't know you were such a snowflake, Beady! Personally, I couldn't care less what Kathy Griffin does with Donald Trump's fake head. Donald Trump is a con man and a narcissist. He is not a patriot.
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Post by jordan71421 on Jun 28, 2018 14:39:02 GMT -5
They are the most arrogant people on Earth Oh the irony. You can't even see how small minded and revealing about you that is. The people featured in the video are incredibly arrogant and self righteous, in my opinion. Why does that make me small minded?
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 28, 2018 17:30:34 GMT -5
Didn't know you were such a snowflake, Beady! Personally, I couldn't care less what Kathy Griffin does with Donald Trump's fake head. Donald Trump is a con man and a narcissist. He is not a patriot. I was more talking about things like this, as well as Congreswoman Maxine Waters encouraging the behavior further. The thuggery of the left knows no bounds.
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Post by eva Fawkes on Jun 28, 2018 17:34:33 GMT -5
Another white male domestic terrorist killed multiple people today.....
God bless.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2018 18:23:31 GMT -5
Didn't know you were such a snowflake, Beady! Personally, I couldn't care less what Kathy Griffin does with Donald Trump's fake head. Donald Trump is a con man and a narcissist. He is not a patriot. I was more talking about things like this, as well as Congreswoman Maxine Waters encouraging the behavior further. The thuggery of the left knows no bounds. I’ll have to disagree with you on that point as well. Some of this administration’s policies are morally reprehensible, and people like Kirstjen Nielsen and Sarah Huckabee Sanders, are complicit. Separating families at the border is disgusting. These people are going on harrowing journeys, fleeing drug cartels and gang violence, exhibiting more courage than most Americans - myself included - will in their entire lives. All the while we cut aid to the countries they come from, erasing any hopes they may have had for anything remotely resembling a decent quality of life. And then we take their children away from them and Trump calls them animals. That’s fucked.
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Post by crisppacket on Jun 28, 2018 18:26:37 GMT -5
Didn't know you were such a snowflake, Beady! Personally, I couldn't care less what Kathy Griffin does with Donald Trump's fake head. Donald Trump is a con man and a narcissist. He is not a patriot. I was more talking about things like this, as well as Congreswoman Maxine Waters encouraging the behavior further. The thuggery of the left knows no bounds.10/10 dramatic wording, made me laugh Thanks
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 28, 2018 18:56:50 GMT -5
I was more talking about things like this, as well as Congreswoman Maxine Waters encouraging the behavior further. The thuggery of the left knows no bounds. I’ll have to disagree with you on that point as well. Some of this administration’s policies are morally reprehensible, and people like Kirstjen Nielsen and Sarah Huckabee Sanders, are complicit. Separating families at the border is disgusting. These people are going on harrowing journeys, fleeing drug cartels and gang violence, exhibiting more courage than most Americans - myself included - will in their entire lives. All the while we cut aid to the countries they come from, erasing any hopes they may have had for anything remotely resembling a decent quality of life. And then we take their children away from them and Trump calls them animals. That’s fucked. Right, a policy that began under the Clinton administration carried right through the Obama administration and upheld by the liberal NY Court in 2016. And then when Trump signed an executive order to stop the policy he was still attacked by the left for that. Ridiculous. We have borders for a reason. If you cross the border illegally then this is what happens. I can’t just barge into any damn country I want, can I? And, no, disrupting people’s private life is crossing the line. Where does that end? Should protestors be able to disrupt politicians taking their child to soccer practice? And when does the shouting become pushing? Mob mentality. Now THAT is shameful. Talk about being totalitarian! Act like god damn adults and start enacting policies. Don’t agreee with politicians? Vote them out of office.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2018 19:14:38 GMT -5
I’ll have to disagree with you on that point as well. Some of this administration’s policies are morally reprehensible, and people like Kirstjen Nielsen and Sarah Huckabee Sanders, are complicit. Separating families at the border is disgusting. These people are going on harrowing journeys, fleeing drug cartels and gang violence, exhibiting more courage than most Americans - myself included - will in their entire lives. All the while we cut aid to the countries they come from, erasing any hopes they may have had for anything remotely resembling a decent quality of life. And then we take their children away from them and Trump calls them animals. That’s fucked. Right, a policy that began under the Clinton administration carried right through the Obama administration and upheld by the liberal NY Court in 2016. And then when Trump signed an executive order to stop the policy he was still attacked by the left for that. Ridiculous. We have borders for a reason. If you cross the border illegally then this is what happens. I can’t just barge into any damn country I want, can I? And, no, disrupting people’s private life is crossing the line. Where does that end? Should protestors be able to disrupt politicians taking their child to soccer practice? And when does the shouting become pushing? Mob mentality. Now THAT is shameful. Act like god damn adults and start enacting policies. Don’t agreee with politicians? Vote them out of office. Your first paragraph does not accurately represent reality: www.snopes.com/fact-check/was-law-separate-families-passed-1997/Trump enacted the policy and then caved when he realized it was bad for him politically. It’s so Trump that he would want credit for reversing a policy that he put into place. He’s worthless. We can agree to disagree about the other stuff (mainly cos I’m hungry and would rather eat dinner ).
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 28, 2018 21:06:04 GMT -5
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Post by globe on Jun 29, 2018 2:44:19 GMT -5
Unemployment rate at 3.8%, with record low numbers for minorities and women. Strong and growing economy. ISIS decimated. Peace through Strength. #KAG The state of this. A quick bit of research shows me that the unemployment rate in the US has been on a steady downward trajectory since 2010 and that the growth of the US economy has fluctuated quite a bit over the last few years but has stayed within the 0-2% range over the last 4 years-ish. As for ISIS - it was the actions of your hero Bush and his wee lapdog Blair that created these fun guys. They will never go away now.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2018 11:13:12 GMT -5
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 29, 2018 11:18:45 GMT -5
Unemployment rate at 3.8%, with record low numbers for minorities and women. Strong and growing economy. ISIS decimated. Peace through Strength. #KAG The state of this. A quick bit of research shows me that the unemployment rate in the US has been on a steady downward trajectory since 2010 and that the growth of the US economy has fluctuated quite a bit over the last few years but has stayed within the 0-2% range over the last 4 years-ish. As for ISIS - it was the actions of your hero Bush and his wee lapdog Blair that created these fun guys. They will never go away now. Yes, but the Obama recovery was the slowest recovery since WWII - which is even more remarkable because normally the worse the preceding recession, the faster the recovery will be. Additionally, yes it's been a gradual improvement but we're also now at record low unemployment for Blacks/Hispanics/Women, and at the best unemployment rate since the boom of the late 1990s. Wages have been increasing slightly as well, which have historically not kept up with the rate of inflation. And while presidents don't have a terrible amount of control on the economy, they can surely hurt it. One could speculate that the tax cuts and the deregulation Trump has enacted have helped - but admittedly I haven't done any research to validate this argument - and I don't really think anyone can be certain about the influence of Trump's policies on the remarkable economy. Obama spent his first term primarily trying to push through partisan health care legislation (which is now being eradicated, but hopefully improved on by the GOP as there are indeed many good things about Obamacare, in fairness). But as unemployment reached 10%, Obama really should have been more fully invested in employment instead of focusing on the signature achievement that all liberals have wanted for the last three decades. In 2014, Obama went on record saying the malaise of the economy would be the new normal. Thank god that he was wrong. As a person, I really don't like Donald Trump but as far as his presidency is concerened, I'm more than satisfied. It's only been 1.5 years, and he'll be truly tested over the coming years. The economy is due for another recession as far as historical patterns are concerned. A lot will happen between now and the end of his presidency, and it could yet turn into a disaster, but so far it's not the disaster that those who despise the President predicted when he won in 2016. All that aside, it's still a damn shame Mitt Romney didn't win in 2012 or run in 2016. Mitt's the best president the United States will never have. Although, arguably, being a Senator is actually a more powerful position in many regards.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2018 11:30:07 GMT -5
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 29, 2018 13:04:31 GMT -5
Fair enough, but equally Bill Clinton benefited from the Ronald Reagan administration. Additionally, Clinton was very much a president at the right time - in between the end of the Cold War and just at the start of the War on Terror (or, Militant Islam, or whatever you want to label it). And yes - I still hold the position that 9/11 and Al-Qaeda was a Clinton issue that Bush inherited.
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Post by eva Fawkes on Jun 29, 2018 15:58:22 GMT -5
For me, anyone who terrorizes and kills people is a terrorist..... Thanks.
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Post by supersonic1983 on Jun 29, 2018 15:59:49 GMT -5
We have borders for a reason. If you cross the border illegally then this is what happens. I can’t just barge into any damn country I want, can I? And, no, disrupting people’s private life is crossing the line. Where does that end? Should protestors be able to disrupt politicians taking their child to soccer practice? And when does the shouting become pushing? Mob mentality. Now THAT is shameful. Talk about being totalitarian! If we arrange a cheese plate for Sarah Sanders will you reconsider your support for the internment and abuse of desperate and vulnerable human beings for crossing an imaginary line in the fucking desert?
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Post by RocketMan on Jun 30, 2018 5:57:23 GMT -5
I confused your mentioning of the progressive left with the title of the video. The name calling and intimidation is in no way only a leftist issue. End of discussion. Sounds like you're describing the Democratic party? Then I would absolutely agree, because they have basically no policies. But you know they don't represent the entire left, right? There are actual policy driven progressive candidates coming through now, in some cases even beating the Democratic establishment. A perfect example of this was just the other day, when an almost unknown latino woman called Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez beat Joe Crowley, one of the biggest democratic congressmen, in New York. This without taking any corporate money. So things are finally happening now with the real left, when is the renewal of the right starting? Cortez is frightening - none of her socialist policies will ever be enacted. She is so far left that it’s scary. But yes, it’s better she have policies than use intimidation so I agree with you there. You could argue that the renewal of the right has begun with the election of Trump - but I think it’s way too early to make such a claim. yeah like universal healthcare? fuck that. tHaTs s0cIaLiSM!!!!!111!1!1!1! what america needs is a real left party. even obama would have been in a conservative party here in germany
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Post by jordan71421 on Jun 30, 2018 8:22:17 GMT -5
We have borders for a reason. If you cross the border illegally then this is what happens. I can’t just barge into any damn country I want, can I? And, no, disrupting people’s private life is crossing the line. Where does that end? Should protestors be able to disrupt politicians taking their child to soccer practice? And when does the shouting become pushing? Mob mentality. Now THAT is shameful. Talk about being totalitarian! If we arrange a cheese plate for Sarah Sanders will you reconsider your support for the internment and abuse of desperate and vulnerable human beings for crossing an imaginary line in the fucking desert? Do you seriously think that a country shouldn’t have borders? Do you lock your doors at night?
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Post by mimmihopps on Jul 1, 2018 3:54:17 GMT -5
What's wrong with you Austria FFS!?
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Post by joladella on Jul 1, 2018 5:30:40 GMT -5
What's wrong with you Austria FFS!? I make a habit of staying out of political discussions on the internet, but I did not vote for them, so please do not generalise!
Sorry, did not mean to sound harsh!
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Post by globe on Jul 1, 2018 9:34:09 GMT -5
The state of this. A quick bit of research shows me that the unemployment rate in the US has been on a steady downward trajectory since 2010 and that the growth of the US economy has fluctuated quite a bit over the last few years but has stayed within the 0-2% range over the last 4 years-ish. As for ISIS - it was the actions of your hero Bush and his wee lapdog Blair that created these fun guys. They will never go away now. Yes, but the Obama recovery was the slowest recovery since WWII - which is even more remarkable because normally the worse the preceding recession, the faster the recovery will be. Additionally, yes it's been a gradual improvement but we're also now at record low unemployment for Blacks/Hispanics/Women, and at the best unemployment rate since the boom of the late 1990s. Wages have been increasing slightly as well, which have historically not kept up with the rate of inflation. And while presidents don't have a terrible amount of control on the economy, they can surely hurt it. One could speculate that the tax cuts and the deregulation Trump has enacted have helped - but admittedly I haven't done any research to validate this argument - and I don't really think anyone can be certain about the influence of Trump's policies on the remarkable economy. Obama spent his first term primarily trying to push through partisan health care legislation (which is now being eradicated, but hopefully improved on by the GOP as there are indeed many good things about Obamacare, in fairness). But as unemployment reached 10%, Obama really should have been more fully invested in employment instead of focusing on the signature achievement that all liberals have wanted for the last three decades. In 2014, Obama went on record saying the malaise of the economy would be the new normal. Thank god that he was wrong. As a person, I really don't like Donald Trump but as far as his presidency is concerened, I'm more than satisfied. It's only been 1.5 years, and he'll be truly tested over the coming years. The economy is due for another recession as far as historical patterns are concerned. A lot will happen between now and the end of his presidency, and it could yet turn into a disaster, but so far it's not the disaster that those who despise the President predicted when he won in 2016. All that aside, it's still a damn shame Mitt Romney didn't win in 2012 or run in 2016. Mitt's the best president the United States will never have. Although, arguably, being a Senator is actually a more powerful position in many regards. That video you posted, along with the diatribe you posted along with it suggests that it is changes that Trump has made since being in the White House have resulted in record low employment and a stronger economy, however the facts I have shown there show that things appears to have stayed pretty much the same on the employment and economy i.e. unemployment continuing to fall and the growth in the economy fluctuating each quarter. I would really love to know what Trump has done to assist with as you put it "with record low numbers for minorities and women". What policy is it that he has brought in that has made this happen
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Post by mimmihopps on Jul 2, 2018 3:09:31 GMT -5
What's wrong with you Austria FFS!? I make a habit of staying out of political discussions on the internet, but I did not vote for them, so please do not generalise! Sorry, did not mean to sound harsh!
No no, my comment wasn't aimed at you and you didn't sound harsh! I didn't think you would have voted for them, really. I really feel sorry for the people in Austria who didn't vote/don't support them. We're heading a darker time in Europe more and more as idiots are united.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 2, 2018 20:30:44 GMT -5
How long's it gonna be before we get on the bus and cause no fuss?
Get a grip on yourself, it don’t cost much.
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