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Post by KhanMightSay on Sept 11, 2017 9:33:38 GMT -5
On the studio version of Live Forever on DM who sings the falsetto "you and I are gonna Live Forever"?
Obviously live Noel always sang it but it actually sounds like Liam on DM. Because this was when he had a nice falsetto. He hardly sang falsetto post-She's Electric ("and I waaaaaaaant you to know").
Any thoughts?
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Post by Hazed on Sept 11, 2017 9:35:10 GMT -5
On the studio version of Live Forever on DM who sings the falsetto "you and I are gonna Live Forever"? Obviously live Noel always sang it but it actually sounds like Liam on DM. Because this was when he had a nice falsetto. He hardly sang falsetto post-She's Electric ("and I waaaaaaaant you to know"). Any thoughts? it's liam on the album pal
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Post by KhanMightSay on Sept 11, 2017 9:39:59 GMT -5
On the studio version of Live Forever on DM who sings the falsetto "you and I are gonna Live Forever"? Obviously live Noel always sang it but it actually sounds like Liam on DM. Because this was when he had a nice falsetto. He hardly sang falsetto post-She's Electric ("and I waaaaaaaant you to know"). Any thoughts? it's liam on the album pal Totally. Just always assumed it was Noel cos he sings it live but it's totally Liam. Also guys, listen to this and try telling me that's not the best rock singer in the world at the time....unbelievable vocal. I prefer it to his vocal on the record!
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Post by funhouse on Sept 11, 2017 10:30:56 GMT -5
I've always just assumed it was Noel, my mind just got blown!
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Post by KhanMightSay on Sept 11, 2017 10:32:59 GMT -5
I've always just assumed it was Noel, my mind just got blown! I know right! :-D
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Post by oasisserbia on Sept 11, 2017 10:34:34 GMT -5
Bonehead.
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Post by davidjay on Sept 11, 2017 10:59:03 GMT -5
Apparently it was Owen Morris and Marcus Russell singing falsetto on the final album mix. Allegedly. Here's a post I wrote on this a few years back. On this unreleased version the falsetto part is sung by Liam. Recording engineer Anjali Dutt has confirmed that this was recorded between 24th February - 4th March 1994 at Sawmills Studio, Cornwall and mixed at Eden Studios in London between 7th - 25th March 1994. These sessions were co-produced by Noel Gallagher and Mark Coyle and engineered by Anjali Dutt. When the band decided that the Eden Studios mix didn't quite capture the sound they were after the Sawmills recordings (including Live Forever) were handed to Owen Morris to be remixed. Morris got the job after successfully remixing Rock n Roll Star and Columbia at Loco Studios on 23rd - 24th April 1994. He also re-recorded the lead vocals on both songs (this is apparently the session where Liam said to Morris "you're Phil Spector and I'm John Lennon", which Noel wasn't too impressed with!). Owen Morris takes up the story: "After the success of the first Loco session with my mixes approved only by Noel and management we did a day in a studio in North Wales to record a bunch of Liam’s lead vocals [...] That day we recorded Cigs and Alcohol, Live Forever, Up in the Sky and Bring it on Down. Again, Liam did only four takes on each track and I compiled them. Noel checked that Liam sang everything correctly on the first take then left us to it. Oasis toured after that and I was left to mix the album with Marcus Russell always with me for company and to check I didn’t miss anything important on the tracks. He knew the songs better than I did." www.oasis-recordinginfo.co.uk/?page_id=12Live Forever (Owen Morris remix) Live Forever (Isolated lead vocal - re recorded version) So the album version is a remix and partial re-recording of the Sawmills take. I always thought that it was Liam singing, given that in various live recordings from this period he often sings the high part. But listening closely to the isolated vocal from Guitar Hero the high part does have a different character to it, for want of a better word. It also seems to have a different effect on it - a sort of shimmering, watery sound if that makes any sense (hard to describe). Owen Morris commented on the Live Forever vocal in an Easter Egg hidden on the Definitely Maybe DVD... Owen Morris: ‘The only thing I remember of interest about [Live Forever] was that officially that high bit wasn’t either Noel or Liam – it was actually me and Marcus [Russell, Oasis's manager]. One for the trainspotters there. The Welsh choir came in.’
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Post by fenderlender on Sept 11, 2017 13:16:57 GMT -5
Slightly off topic, but the part of the outro where it switches from falsetto to Liam's full voice is the greatest musical moment Oasis have ever produced. Every version of it is fucking amazing. The full-Liam versions, the Noel/Liam versions, even when Liam's voice got shouty, the recent crowd/Liam tamborine only versions, even the Chris Martin/Liam version. Guaranteed goosebumps, makes me wanna cry and punch a wall at the same time. Truly biblical. Peace.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2017 16:38:59 GMT -5
Apparently it was Owen Morris and Marcus Russell singing falsetto on the final album mix. Allegedly. Here's a post I wrote on this a few years back. On this unreleased version the falsetto part is sung by Liam. Recording engineer Anjali Dutt has confirmed that this was recorded between 24th February - 4th March 1994 at Sawmills Studio, Cornwall and mixed at Eden Studios in London between 7th - 25th March 1994. These sessions were co-produced by Noel Gallagher and Mark Coyle and engineered by Anjali Dutt. When the band decided that the Eden Studios mix didn't quite capture the sound they were after the Sawmills recordings (including Live Forever) were handed to Owen Morris to be remixed. Morris got the job after successfully remixing Rock n Roll Star and Columbia at Loco Studios on 23rd - 24th April 1994. He also re-recorded the lead vocals on both songs (this is apparently the session where Liam said to Morris "you're Phil Spector and I'm John Lennon", which Noel wasn't too impressed with!). Owen Morris takes up the story: "After the success of the first Loco session with my mixes approved only by Noel and management we did a day in a studio in North Wales to record a bunch of Liam’s lead vocals [...] That day we recorded Cigs and Alcohol, Live Forever, Up in the Sky and Bring it on Down. Again, Liam did only four takes on each track and I compiled them. Noel checked that Liam sang everything correctly on the first take then left us to it. Oasis toured after that and I was left to mix the album with Marcus Russell always with me for company and to check I didn’t miss anything important on the tracks. He knew the songs better than I did." www.oasis-recordinginfo.co.uk/?page_id=12Live Forever (Owen Morris remix) Live Forever (Isolated lead vocal - re recorded version) So the album version is a remix and partial re-recording of the Sawmills take. I always thought that it was Liam singing, given that in various live recordings from this period he often sings the high part. But listening closely to the isolated vocal from Guitar Hero the high part does have a different character to it, for want of a better word. It also seems to have a different effect on it - a sort of shimmering, watery sound if that makes any sense (hard to describe). Owen Morris commented on the Live Forever vocal in an Easter Egg hidden on the Definitely Maybe DVD... Owen Morris: ‘The only thing I remember of interest about [Live Forever] was that officially that high bit wasn’t either Noel or Liam – it was actually me and Marcus [Russell, Oasis's manager]. One for the trainspotters there. The Welsh choir came in.’ Wow... Never knew this, thanks!
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Post by walterglass on Sept 12, 2017 0:29:40 GMT -5
My brain won't allow me to accept it wasn't Noel.
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Post by supernovadragon on Sept 12, 2017 3:35:27 GMT -5
My brain will not allow me to accept it's ever been anyone BUT Liam on the recorded version. To my ears it's always been Liam
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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Sept 12, 2017 4:15:21 GMT -5
Is Liam! Definitely!
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Post by Derrick on Sept 12, 2017 7:03:01 GMT -5
But listening closely to the isolated vocal from Guitar Hero the high part does have a different character to it, for want of a better word. It also seems to have a different effect on it - a sort of shimmering, watery sound if that makes any sense (hard to describe). Thanks! That "watery" sound is actually the sound of two people singing the high part together, which gives credence to Owen Morris' version of the story. I also initially thought it was Liam singing the falsetto part on the record, but there's no doubt anymore after listening to the isolated vocals. Also, seems logical that it's not Liam, otherwise why wouldn't he have sung the high notes at gigs in 1994? If he had done it in the studio, he would've been able to do it live as well. On a different subject, I always wondered why Liam stopped singing the "Weeeeell"s on the live versions of "Morning glory": he sings it on the studio version, he sang it at Glastonbury in 1995 & at Roskilde as well (among others), but he didn't sing it anymore at Maine Road.
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Post by KhanMightSay on Sept 13, 2017 6:46:59 GMT -5
Apparently it was Owen Morris and Marcus Russell singing falsetto on the final album mix. Allegedly. Live Forever (Isolated lead vocal - re recorded version) So the album version is a remix and partial re-recording of the Sawmills take. I always thought that it was Liam singing, given that in various live recordings from this period he often sings the high part. But listening closely to the isolated vocal from Guitar Hero the high part does have a different character to it, for want of a better word. It also seems to have a different effect on it - a sort of shimmering, watery sound if that makes any sense (hard to describe). Owen Morris commented on the Live Forever vocal in an Easter Egg hidden on the Definitely Maybe DVD... Owen Morris: ‘The only thing I remember of interest about [Live Forever] was that officially that high bit wasn’t either Noel or Liam – it was actually me and Marcus [Russell, Oasis's manager]. One for the trainspotters there. The Welsh choir came in.’ I'm not sure I believe it was Marcus and Owen. It definitely sounds like Liam. Hearing the isolated vocal it DEFINITELY is NOT Noel, that much I know now (completely mind blowing). It sounds very like Liam. I have no idea what Owen and Marcus sound like but unless it's them doing an impression of Liam then I'm not sure it's them. Also, the power behind the notes makes me believe it's Liam. The "watery" effect you hear is phasing which is when 2 identical or very similar sound waves are very slightly out of sync, so it's either 2 mics recording at different distances or it's 2 parts that are ever so slightly out of sync with each other time wise.
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Post by KhanMightSay on Sept 13, 2017 6:51:40 GMT -5
But listening closely to the isolated vocal from Guitar Hero the high part does have a different character to it, for want of a better word. It also seems to have a different effect on it - a sort of shimmering, watery sound if that makes any sense (hard to describe). Thanks! That "watery" sound is actually the sound of two people singing the high part together, which gives credence to Owen Morris' version of the story. I also initially thought it was Liam singing the falsetto part on the record, but there's no doubt anymore after listening to the isolated vocals. Also, seems logical that it's not Liam, otherwise why wouldn't he have sung the high notes at gigs in 1994? If he had done it in the studio, he would've been able to do it live as well. On a different subject, I always wondered why Liam stopped singing the "Weeeeell"s on the live versions of "Morning glory": he sings it on the studio version, he sang it at Glastonbury in 1995 & at Roskilde as well (among others), but he didn't sing it anymore at Maine Road. I wondered that about the "weeeelllll" as well - I put it down to the fact that it took too much out of his voice and with lots of touring to do it's easier for him to let Noel (who sings with proper technique) do it. So on the record when he had just one or 2 vocals to bang out a day he could give it his all. And boy does he sound good singing it! Same thing as now - hearing him sing the chorus to Wonderwall, he holds the notes for like 1 beat and that's it. He needs to preserve his voice for lots of gigs.
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Post by Gin & Tonic on Sept 14, 2017 3:11:37 GMT -5
it's liam on the album pal Totally. Just always assumed it was Noel cos he sings it live but it's totally Liam. Also guys, listen to this and try telling me that's not the best rock singer in the world at the time....unbelievable vocal. I prefer it to his vocal on the record! Damn haven't heard that version in so long, biblical.
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Post by sgtpeppr on Sept 14, 2017 3:36:59 GMT -5
dont sound like liam to me...?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2017 7:44:05 GMT -5
But listening closely to the isolated vocal from Guitar Hero the high part does have a different character to it, for want of a better word. It also seems to have a different effect on it - a sort of shimmering, watery sound if that makes any sense (hard to describe). Thanks! That "watery" sound is actually the sound of two people singing the high part together, which gives credence to Owen Morris' version of the story. I also initially thought it was Liam singing the falsetto part on the record, but there's no doubt anymore after listening to the isolated vocals. Also, seems logical that it's not Liam, otherwise why wouldn't he have sung the high notes at gigs in 1994? If he had done it in the studio, he would've been able to do it live as well. On a different subject, I always wondered why Liam stopped singing the "Weeeeell"s on the live versions of "Morning glory": he sings it on the studio version, he sang it at Glastonbury in 1995 & at Roskilde as well (among others), but he didn't sing it anymore at Maine Road. There are at least a few gigs in 1994 where sang the falsetto. Glastonbury comes first in my mind.
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Post by underneaththesky on Sept 14, 2017 7:52:29 GMT -5
tony macca
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2017 12:03:09 GMT -5
I thought it was Liam then Noel and now I don't know what to believe...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2017 13:18:17 GMT -5
On Youtube there's an interview with Noel where he says Liam sings the falsetto part on the album, but I can't remember which interview it is.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2017 13:38:45 GMT -5
not sure at this point who it really is singing but it's all dave sardy's fault.
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Post by sgtpeppr on Sept 14, 2017 14:00:28 GMT -5
it really sounds like noel to me...just not liam tho.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2017 14:08:18 GMT -5
To be fair that part in the vocals only video does not sound like any of the Gallagher´s so i reckon Owen Morris is right.
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Post by justaroundmidnight on Sept 14, 2017 18:41:54 GMT -5
It's Liam.
I have the the Live Forever multi-track .mogg file, as well as Don't Look Back In Anger, Rock'N'Roll Star, and Wonderwall where you can listen in Audacity.
PM me if you want them.
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