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Post by psj3809 on Oct 3, 2017 6:04:52 GMT -5
Exactly. If they gave it 4/10 and it was a decent review of why they think its 4/10 then fair enough. But often its 'liams an idiot, heres his next attempt as Oasis...' and thats that
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Post by Plantpot on Oct 3, 2017 8:54:44 GMT -5
"But therein lies what is simultaneously the most compelling and most confusing aspect of the album: Gallagher portrays himself as both a rock ‘n’ roll star and a sensitive songsmith, and by the end of the record, it’s still unclear what As You Were wants to say" (Consequence of Sound). Thank you for sharing this review. For me, this makes for lazy analysis. Far be it for me to say that being contradictory is part of the human condition. Our lives are dominated by contradictions. Humans hate what they love and love what they hate. No one should be faulted for portraying realism. Cheers.
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Post by The Spider And The Fly on Oct 3, 2017 9:37:36 GMT -5
The one thing in common with the negative reviews so far is that they all seem to have an agenda against Liam. When they clearly don’t like him it sets a precedent for their review. A bit shit really. I disagree. It's always excuses by Liam fans when he gets a bad review. It's always somebody has an agenda on him but the truth is that these songs we've heard are not very good. I wish they were. Time will tell but it will be a forgotten album and will not sell at all. Be nice
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Post by themanwithnoname on Oct 3, 2017 9:43:33 GMT -5
The one thing in common with the negative reviews so far is that they all seem to have an agenda against Liam. When they clearly don’t like him it sets a precedent for their review. A bit shit really. I disagree. It's always excuses by Liam fans when he gets a bad review. It's always somebody has an agenda on him but the truth is that these songs we've heard are not very good. I wish they were. Time will tell but it will be a forgotten album and will not sell at all. Be nice Oh do fuck off.
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Post by elephantstone93 on Oct 3, 2017 9:47:29 GMT -5
The one thing in common with the negative reviews so far is that they all seem to have an agenda against Liam. When they clearly don’t like him it sets a precedent for their review. A bit shit really. I disagree. It's always excuses by Liam fans when he gets a bad review. It's always somebody has an agenda on him but the truth is that these songs we've heard are not very good. I wish they were. Time will tell but it will be a forgotten album and will not sell at all. Be nice You’d maybe have a point if the reviews didn’t read as being completely lazy, and if the songs really weren’t very good. One review referring to a song called ‘If I’m In Need’, which isn’t even a song is inexcusable. It’s obviously subjective but the way some of the reviews are written there’s clearly an agenda, has been for ages. And saying the songs aren’t very good and the album will be forgotten when on the whole the album has received good reviews so far doesn’t really make sense. I wasn’t stating in my initial post all the reviews had been bad, the majority have been good. It will definitely sell well, his first post Oasis number 1.
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Post by I Built The Moon on Oct 3, 2017 10:14:43 GMT -5
I disagree. It's always excuses by Liam fans when he gets a bad review. It's always somebody has an agenda on him but the truth is that these songs we've heard are not very good. I wish they were. Time will tell but it will be a forgotten album and will not sell at all. Be nice Oh do fuck off. What a lovely way to start an argument on this thread. Can't we just relax? I personally feel it's a bit of both, some reviewers probably don't care much about Liam these days and therefore don't put as much effort into their reviews. But to go as far as calling it an agenda sounds a bit conspiracy theory-like. These days the amount of bands, good or bad, that get short thrift in major publication reviews, there would have to be a lot of agendas.
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Post by gazd1980 on Oct 3, 2017 10:19:10 GMT -5
I personally used to like looking out for the track by track reviews. Any of those knocking about?
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Post by LSF on Oct 3, 2017 10:40:17 GMT -5
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Post by psj3809 on Oct 3, 2017 10:54:40 GMT -5
The one thing in common with the negative reviews so far is that they all seem to have an agenda against Liam. When they clearly don’t like him it sets a precedent for their review. A bit shit really. I disagree. It's always excuses by Liam fans when he gets a bad review. It's always somebody has an agenda on him but the truth is that these songs we've heard are not very good. I wish they were. Time will tell but it will be a forgotten album and will not sell at all. Be nice Load of shite. Again if a review for his albums 4/10 i'll accept it if the write up is decent. Either way you're going to disagree judging by your past posts which are constantly slating Liams album and Liam. Forgotten album ? Not sell well ? As the other guy said fuck off, you're just trolling
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Post by chamu on Oct 3, 2017 16:53:27 GMT -5
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Post by tomlivesforever on Oct 3, 2017 17:05:40 GMT -5
Here is the text for the lazy among us.
ALBUM REVIEW: Liam Gallagher – ‘As You Were’ 7/10
Posted on October 3, 2017 by Elizabeth Manno in Album Reviews // 0 Comments xsnoize.com
After two sub-par Beady Eye records and a messy divorce, former Oasis frontman, working-class hero, and the voice of a generation, Liam Gallagher thought about quitting music for good. After his post-Oasis band, Beady Eye, split up, there were loads of rumours of a potential solo career, but they were often dismissed by the man himself and because Liam never seemed interested in writing his own music. However, after picking himself back up and finally presenting a song of his own, “Bold”, to a record label, they were intrigued and asked if he was interested in working with some professional songwriters.
The project quickly snowballed as he began accumulating new material and he started working with the Grammy-winning producer, Greg Kurstin, who decided to take a much simpler approach to Liam’s music than previous Beady Eye producers. As teased on Twitter for a while, Liam Gallagher’s debut solo record would be titled, As You Were as he was finally ready to put his name up in lights after repeatedly bashing his brother, Noel Gallagher, for doing the same.
As You Were opens with the punchy lead single, Wall Of Glass and Liam’s voice already sounds noticeably stronger than anything he’s done with Beady Eye, not to mention the fact that the song adopts a much more back to basics approach than the overblown, psychedelic material on the latest Beady Eye record, BE. There are even glimpses of classic Liam Gallagher on the track as it seems he’s finally found his feet and his voice in a post-Oasis world.
Next up is Bold, which was the song that got him signed to Warner Brothers Records. For someone who’s not used to writing songs on his own, the song’s chorus has some awfully catchy melodies and he was even able to sneak in a nod (or a jab) to his brother’s latest solo album, Chasing Yesterday (“there’s no love worth chasing yesterday”).
Throughout the tracklisting, there are plenty of odes to Liam’s beloved Beatles. There’s the John Lennon-esque ballad Paper Crown, lyrical references like “helter skelter” and “tomorrow never knows”, and the psychedelic When I’m In Need whose grand, ethereal outro is an impressive and welcome surprise. There are also references to his past work with Oasis with For What It’s Worth mimicking the heartfelt, grandiose nature of Whatever and I Get By recalling the commanding, snarling sound of Liam’s voice on Standing On The Shoulder Of Giants.
There are still a few tunes that don’t fully connect like You Better Run and Come Back To Me, but at least, this time around, none of the songs get lost in the production style like they did previously. Producer Greg Kurstin has allowed plenty of room for the songs to breathe while providing just the right balance of additional elements like soulful backing vocalists, piano, and brass. Essentially, he’s allowed Liam’s greatest asset – his voice and attitude – to become the centrepiece of the record and as a result, the record is a strikingly raw, clean, and satisfying listen. The record concludes with the intimate I’ve All I Need, which is Liam’s acceptance of life after Oasis and his comforting message for Oasis fans (“there’s no time for looking back”, “it’s not goodbye / so dry your eyes”).
As You Were is a much-needed improvement from both Beady Eye efforts and there are even remnants of Oasis’ triumphant final album, Dig Out Your Soul with its soulful, bluesy grooves and its meat and potatoes style songwriting, production, and rhythm. For Oasis fans that prefer Liam over Noel, this is the post-Oasis work that they’ve been waiting for. Its short, snappy, 60’s influenced rock and roll tunes connect more often than not and though Liam’s not exactly reinventing the wheel here, he’s come up with the most cohesive post-Oasis album yet. Your move, Noel.
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Post by themanwithnoname on Oct 3, 2017 17:37:22 GMT -5
It was already up - it was at 81 with 4 reviews, now 79 with 5. Solid reviews so far.
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Post by durk on Oct 3, 2017 18:58:46 GMT -5
doesn't seem like the CoS reviewer knows jack shit about Oasis tho.
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Post by summersox on Oct 3, 2017 19:07:20 GMT -5
The Arts Desk: www.theartsdesk.com/new-music/cd-liam-gallagher-you-were"The rest of it is unremarkable at best and, of course, the lyrics are, in places, awful, but As You Were still rates as the best thing that Liam Gallagher has been involved in for the larger part of two decades." Soundblab: soundblab.com/reviews/albums/19252-liam-gallagher-as-you-were"While much of As You Were sounds exactly like what you would hope and expect to hear from Liam Gallagher, much more importantly, it sounds almost nothing like Oasis (for the most part), which is a feat in and of itself. As You Were might actually represent another musical milestone for the singer as it is clearly the work of a re-vitalized artist."
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Post by themightyme on Oct 3, 2017 21:33:33 GMT -5
Some interesting thoughts from the ArtsDesk... insight into COME BACK TO ME!!!
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Post by cloudburster on Oct 3, 2017 22:54:58 GMT -5
Not sure if mentioned yet but it is 1 point off 'Universal acclaim' on Metacritic... www.metacritic.com/music/as-you-were/liam-gallagherThe highest any Oasis or Gallagher release has received from the critics has been 69/100 before this album. Liam is on 79/100!
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Post by The Spider And The Fly on Oct 3, 2017 23:59:53 GMT -5
I disagree. It's always excuses by Liam fans when he gets a bad review. It's always somebody has an agenda on him but the truth is that these songs we've heard are not very good. I wish they were. Time will tell but it will be a forgotten album and will not sell at all. Be nice Load of shite. Again if a review for his albums 4/10 i'll accept it if the write up is decent. Either way you're going to disagree judging by your past posts which are constantly slating Liams album and Liam. Forgotten album ? Not sell well ? As the other guy said fuck off, you're just trolling Definitely not a troll. I don't think it will sell well. Especially world wide. I love Liam's voice. I still love Liam but these songs are not that good. I wish I could get into these songs I heard so far. Can't wait to listen to the album and I hope I'm wrong with the new album tracks and extra songs. Time will tell. As you were
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Post by icebreath on Oct 4, 2017 0:12:03 GMT -5
Not sure if mentioned yet but it is 1 point off 'Universal acclaim' on Metacritic... www.metacritic.com/music/as-you-were/liam-gallagherThe highest any Oasis or Gallagher release has received from the critics has been 69/100 before this album. Liam is on 79/100! It's pretty early. DGSS had 30 critic reviews and BE had 20 reviews. We have to wait till all the reviews have been added.
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Post by icebreath on Oct 4, 2017 1:54:35 GMT -5
Rating: 4/5It's been a difficult past decade for our kid, Liam Gallagher. In 2009 older brother Noel pulled the plug on Oasis and blamed Liam for the band’s demise. Then Noel launched a creative renaissance with his High Flying Birds, leaving Liam to push on unsuccessfully with his ex-Oasis bandmates as Beady Eye. After two under-rated Beady Eye albums, Liam sauntered off to basically jog and play house husband. The good news for Gallagher fans is the Manchester legend’s debut solo record As You Were is a triumphant return and his best album since Oasis’ Don’t Believe The Truth. The recruitment of Adele producer Greg Kurstin to co-write several tracks and handle production duties was a masterstroke. Kurstin has arguably coaxed out the best vocal performance of Gallagher’s career, particularly on the ballads Paper Crown and For What It’s Worth. But lyrically, As You Were is all Liam. On For What It’s Worth Gallagher accepts blame for the hurt he caused his sons and ex-wife Nicole Appleton in a song that’s as anthemic as Don’t Look Back In Anger. However, Liam isn’t entirely eating humble pie. You Better Run and Greedy Soul spit with bile. On the latter Liam sings with the attitude he made famous, “You're getting told/You greedy soul/You've been telling lies/You're a slippery kind.” Noel appears the obvious target. Don’t expect a musical re-invention on As You Were. This is a soulful rock’n’roll record rooted in the sounds of the early ‘70s. There’s obvious nods to John Lennon, but most importantly, Liam Gallagher sounds revitalised. www.theherald.com.au/story/4964419/review-liam-steps-out-of-noels-shadow-to-find-his-own-voice/
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Post by tomlivesforever on Oct 4, 2017 2:01:35 GMT -5
Load of shite. Again if a review for his albums 4/10 i'll accept it if the write up is decent. Either way you're going to disagree judging by your past posts which are constantly slating Liams album and Liam. Forgotten album ? Not sell well ? As the other guy said fuck off, you're just trolling Definitely not a troll. I don't think it will sell well. Especially world wide. I love Liam's voice. I still love Liam but these songs are not that good. I wish I could get into these songs I heard so far. Can't wait to listen to the album and I hope I'm wrong with the new album tracks and extra songs. Time will tell. As you were The album seems to be getting a warm reception so far. Important not to apply your own personal opinion to everyone else. And I think that people's problem with some of the reviews aren't that they are negative but that they are negative and say little about the music.
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Post by walterglass on Oct 4, 2017 2:15:10 GMT -5
I predict it’ll go platinum here in the UK.
I predict Liam to be the main man at The Brits 2018 - because of the commercial success of AYW.
I predict AYW will outsell Noel’s album.
I predict another ticket frenzy next year - even with a lead booker policy.
And I think all of this is blindingly obvious because these songs are fucking sweet as. 🕶
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Post by psj3809 on Oct 4, 2017 2:32:17 GMT -5
The album seems to be getting a warm reception so far. Important not to apply your own personal opinion to everyone else. And I think that people's problem with some of the reviews aren't that they are negative but that they are negative and say little about the music. I totally agree. If a review says its 10/10 i'll wont take that so seriously same as a 2/10 one if the reviews quite short and barely mentions the songs. Those reviews add nothing as they hardly detail any of the songs and they're practically worthless. But same for fans, the original poster seemed to be trolling, hes not even heard the album yet already seems to be super negative about it.
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Post by chamu on Oct 4, 2017 2:48:20 GMT -5
Another positive one 7/10
Liam Gallagher As You Were BY PAUL CARR 4 October 2017 LIAM GALLAGHER ANSWERS ALL THE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER HE CAN CUT IT AS A SOLO ARTIST ON AUDIENCE-PLEASING ROCK 'N' ROLL RECORD. PHOTO: RANKIN (WARNER BROS. RECORDS) cover art LIAM GALLAGHER AS YOU WERE (WARNER BROS.) US: 6 OCT 2017 UK: 6 OCT 2017
AMAZON ITUNES It seems strange to say it about a man whose whole career has been based on an unwavering belief in his own persona as one of the last true rock stars, but 2017 sees Liam Gallagher in the rather unusual position of underdog. After Beady Eye came to an abrupt halt with a collective shrug after the release of final album BE, Liam has found himself musically cut adrift. With the chances of Oasis getting back together anytime soon, further diminishing with every new solo album from Noel, questions were beginning to be asked about whether Liam really had the appetite to strike out on his own without the ballast of a band behind him. What’s more, for a singer who went from fiery young punk to surefooted journeyman pro all with the help of others, would he be able to write the songs that would make people take Liam seriously as a songwriter?
These questions are ones that have troubled Liam, admitting in interviews that he would much prefer to be releasing a new album with Oasis rather than launching a solo career. Similarly, he has also confessed to having difficulties writing those big, life-affirming, era-defining choruses that brother Noel could knock out for fun in the mid-‘90s. Wisely, with this realisation he has teamed up with someone who knows a thing or two about penning a hit song having written and produced for Adele, Sia, Kelly Clarkson and most recently the Foo Fighters—Greg Kurstin. It has proven to be a shrewd move as the younger Gallagher’s first solo album is a confident, well-rounded rock ‘n’ roll record that finds Liam possessing a new found fire in his belly.
Opening single “Wall of Glass” had to come out all guns blazing. For his solo career not to be railroaded before it had begun, it had to show, even to his most ardent of supporters, that he still had the voice and the attitude that made him one of the most unpredictable frontmen of his generation. Additionally, it had to have the shock and the thrill of the new. Strangely enough, that comes in the form of a harmonica riff. In featuring a hook based on the humble harmonica, the song roars and wails from the off, in much the same way as Liam’s voice demanded attention on those early Oasis records. The harmonica riff, simple chords, and soulful backing singers frame what has to stand as one of the best lead singles from any band either Gallagher has been involved in since What’s the Story (Morning Glory).
It soon becomes apparent, that this is a surprisingly compelling and convincing set of uncomplicated yet frank rock ‘n’ roll songs written to show off Liam’s strengths as a singer. “Bold” is a mid-tempo, acoustic-driven rocker that sees him joined by former Oasis guitarist Paul ‘Bonehead’ Arthurs. The chorus line of “Yes I know, I’ve been Bold / I didn’t do what I was told,” perfectly summarizes Gallagher’s often rash and impetuous nature but hints at a newfound penitence. “Greedy Soul” is a swaggering rocker with over-driven guitar and pounding drums with the raw intent of early Black Rebel Motorcycle Club. Liam’s vocals strut with self-assurance, as he revels in being the only thing he knows how to be—a rock star.
“Paper Crown” is a more reflective number which finds Liam in fine voice, channeling early ‘70s solo John Lennon. “For What It’s Worth”, co-written with Cherry Ghost’s Simon Aldred, is the kind of soaring mid-tempo rocker that Oasis tried to get right on every release since What’s the Story (Morning Glory). Possessing a similar structure to “Don’t Look Back in Anger” it soars rather than feeling like a well-worn copy as Liam’s voice shines brighter than on anything since the demise of Oasis. It also finds him in a surprisingly vulnerable and contrite mood with lyrics such as, “For what it’s worth / I’m sorry for the hurt / I’ll be the first to say / I made my own mistakes.” It’s these more unguarded moments that make the album feel far more rounded as a result.
On the whole, there is much more substance to Gallagher’s lyrics that one might expect. Admittedly, there are still some clunkers such as on the sweet, acoustic “When I’m in Need” with the nonsensical, “She’s so purple haze / You know what I mean.” Similarly, the energising, glam stomp of “You Better Run” is marred a little by the lazy couplet “Hey there gimme shelter / Tt’s all gone helter skelter.” Still, one has to admire any song so brazen that it opens with “Hey there / I’m a livin’ wonder.” Often, the fun comes in trying to decide who exactly is the subject of Liam’s ire. To that end, it’s probably pretty safe to assume that the line, “I never hold back from the truth / Unlike you.” from cocksure rocker “I Get By” is aimed at brother Noel.
“Chinatown” written with Andrew Wyatt from Swedish electro band Miike Snow and featuring John Martyn style figure picking from former Jeff Buckley guitarist Michael Oliver Tighe is an understated gem. Once again it finds Liam in superb voice whilst similarly demonstrating how shrewd he has been in choosing his writing partners. Throughout the album, the writing and production have coaxed the best performances out of him in years on the more stretching soulful numbers but without blunting any of the rough diamond, sneer on the rockers.
Overall, As You Were sees Liam Gallagher far surpassing even the most hopeful of expectations. Gone is the moodiness and sonic flourishes that characterised final Beady Eye album BE. Instead, Liam has opted for a far more straightforward, audience-pleasing rock ‘n’ roll record but with plenty to make it sound fresh and alive. An album that sees every question about him answered, screwed up and tossed in the bin.
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Post by space75gr on Oct 4, 2017 5:25:34 GMT -5
doesn't seem like the CoS reviewer knows jack shit about Oasis tho. C mon, at least the reviewer knows about Liam " ...the fact that Gallagher calls himself “the best songwriter in the world...” and "...has spent the greater part of their career making enemies..." and most important is that Liam "...No matter what he creates, he will never be allowed to match the songs he wrote in 1995, which must be incredibly frustrating...". !!!!!!!!!!!!! such a shame for Liam!!!!! That's incredibly frustrating!!! Oh well... btw, i wonder what that reviewr will write in Noel's album review, probably something like "..the fact that Gallagher calls himself “the best singer in the world...” and "...No matter what he sings, he will never be allowed to match the songs he sang in 1995, which must be incredibly frustrating...". lol also : "...But therein lies what is simultaneously the most compelling and most confusing aspect of the album: Gallagher portrays himself as both a rock ‘n’ roll star and a sensitive songsmith, and by the end of the record, it’s still unclear what As You Were wants to say..."if you know nothing about Liam Gallagher, go and write something else and leave that album to someone else's hands to review it. If thats your problem for givin it a lower verdict, fix it and read a few things about Liam, not only a few headlines for a few seconds. Everything in that album makes perfect sense , the styles the lyrics , all fit perfect and show the world the real Liam.
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Post by psj3809 on Oct 4, 2017 7:20:13 GMT -5
Review from soundblab...
soundblab.com/reviews/albums/19252-liam-gallagher-as-you-were
The brothers Gallagher, whose post-Oasis-implosion career arcs serve as a potent reminder of the oft-cited axiom ‘the whole is greater than the sum of its parts’, have each tried their best in recent years to distance themselves (Noel with his High Flying Birds and Liam & Co. with Beady Eye) from their shared past. And after nearly a decade apart, Liam has finally decided to step away from working within the context of the band and release his first ‘solo’ record As You Were.
So how does As You Were differ from any of the other Liam-fronted solo projects? Well, where Beady Eye often felt like a drummed-up reaction to the ever-looming presence of Oasis’s legacy, As You Were is an eclectic affair that is notable for its complete lack of artifice; it is simply a collection of well-written songs; nothing more, nothing less.
And while working with a mega-producer might be an alarming choice for longtime fans, Greg Kurstin (the man behind seemingly just about everyone lately) has proven to be the perfect match for Gallagher, pulling a level of sincerity out of the singer that is downright disarming.
The album’s twelve tracks place Liam’s trademark voice front and center, revealing the singer’s capabilities in ways that few other releases have. The record ebbs and flows from rambunctious (highlighted by the infectious lead-single “Wall Of Glass”) and playful (“You Better Run” and it’s cheeky ‘Helter Skelter’ namecheck) to understated (“Paper Crown”) and subdued (“When I’m In Need”) with an impressive cohesiveness.
Although the first half of As You Were is predictably tuneful, with songs like “Bold” and “For What It’s Worth” featuring huge choruses and (for lack of a better word) Oasis-esque vocal melodies, some of the album’s best moments can be found on its second half, where the driving “I Get By”, the haunting “China Town” and the psychedelic “Universal Gleam” are almost worth the price of admission by themselves. While there’s nothing here as grandiose or overstated as say “Champagne Supernova”, the focus and brevity of As You Were plays as a strength.
While much of As You Were sounds exactly like what you would hope and expect to hear from Liam Gallagher, much more importantly, it sounds almost nothing like Oasis (for the most part), which is a feat in and of itself. As You Were might actually represent another musical milestone for the singer as it is clearly the work of a re-vitalized artist. And while it used to be difficult to separate Gallagher the musician from Gallagher to headline-inducer, it’s clear that at this point in his life he is simply content to let the music do the talking.
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