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Post by psj3809 on Aug 1, 2017 8:03:52 GMT -5
Because i'm happy with Liams stuff i'm not as fussed about Oasis getting back together.
BUT i just dont think you can say never. They both have huge ego's and both would like to have a massive massive tour. I just think of the Stone Roses when people say never.
I wouldnt expect anything to happen for a few years but i just wouldnt rule it out. A few years ago yeah, but i reckon one day
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Post by tomlivesforever on Aug 1, 2017 8:05:31 GMT -5
To be fair at this moment in time i'm happy as hell with what i've heard from Liam. Hes done the right thing (and said the right thing) about his strength isnt writing, his is singing. Noel must be happy that Liam is doing well and is also sounding great. If Liam sounds terrible and has no songs then Noel wont want a reunion at all, even to help him out. If Liams on top form then thats good for everyone. I'm sure deep down Noel is dying to play large stadiums, dont think he can solely with NGHFB, granted he did the O2 but i cant see him doing Wembley etc, same for Liam. Combine them both and at some point both of them will want more (in my view) Oasis is not reuniting. These aren't fun little side projects for Noel. This is his new career and he's never stated otherwise unlike Liam who said he would drop his solo act in 2 seconds to reunite Oasis. Said similar things with Beady Eye which to me immediately cheapened their long term perspective and heart of the "new" band. I think Liam is putting in %100, there is no shame for Liam in saying Oasis was his first and biggest love and that he would go back to it. Oasis is a long way off and I doubt Liam is thinking about every second he just gets asked in every interview
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Post by Plantpot on Aug 1, 2017 8:16:51 GMT -5
In reference to Stern's approach, I think it behooves us to remember that a key characteristic of a good host is to explore avenues that engage the guest. In some cases, hosts basically have to sellout in certain ways in order to achieve a better interview. While Stern may be seen as hypocritical as it relates to his interview with Noel twenty years ago, I'd wager that he knowingly moved in this direction because he instinctively believed that it would make for a better interview. He was right to do so because it was a good interview.
Cheers.
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Post by dontbelievethetruth4 on Aug 1, 2017 8:20:29 GMT -5
Just a question in regards to that last bit, assuming you're both American... Obviously, I know after Be Here Now for about 5-6 years they really were completely off the grid in the U.S - bar hardcore fans clearly - but in terms of popularity (at least for the gigs) did they not come back around the time of Don't Believe The Truth. It's always a bit weird for me to think they went from a relatively small (in terms of both length and venues played) tour of the U.S in 2002, to doing two decent-sized tours of amphitheatres and arenas in 2005, then obviously another arena tour in 2008. I mean I know Oasis were 'big' in the U.S. in the 90's. but evidently nowhere near the U2 levels or the level Coldplay are now at, but it does seem they had a bit of a 'comeback' over there before the split? From a 22-year-old Brit's point of view, I've literally grown up knowing 'Oasis' as pretty much the biggest thing in the country music/culture wise since I was old enough to remember. Oasis and football - they go hand in hand. So it's hard to imagine it being so different elsewhere even though I know it is. They really are just simply massive over here. For all the ridiculous shouts of 'bigger than the Beatles' back in the 90's, I can guarantee for a lot of people my age the Beatles are only relevant because of Oasis (as backwards as that is and that's not my p.o.v)... Everybody in the UK (old enough to know obviously) has an opinion on Oasis. I suppose that's the best way to sum it up. Even in Europe (Spain, Italy especially) the Oasis name is still just huge. If anything, Oasis are bigger now than when they broke up - a whole new generation now hail Oasis as 'their' band, and the indie band's that are most successful at the moment are the ones who will constantly cite Oasis as influences (an area where Kasabian and the Arctic Monkeys have failed).  In regards the interview, Stern - in general - I find quite annoying. I know he's a huge hit in the U.S. and I don't mind him, but I can just find his humour/manor a bit grating at times. It's a funny enough interview though, but as others have said, it's just Stern being a hypocrite (even though I guess he couldn't give a monkeys about what was said 20 years ago now), so in that sense it's quite funny. Liam is in good form. Both vocally and with how he's presenting himself in the media. Had this discussion on Saturday with a few mates - basically just saying it's a PR masterpiece from Debbie. Fair play to her, and Liam. Liam became a parody of himself in Oasis' later years and in Beady Eye, like he was playing Peter Pan after too much fairy dust. He's back now, grown up, but without any of the edge taken away. It's great to see. Then again, I still stand by the fact that anyone who had the success he had by the age of 22/23 has done very well to have a modicum of sanity by the age of 44. After 1998, Oasis had no more cultural impact in America. To me the HC and DBTT tours were similar. Both mid sized theaters and amphitheaters for the summer run. Both those albums sold around 150 to 200K. That's basically nothing. Even DOYS they played a lot of basketball arenas which was cool. Still the album sold nothing but TSOTL did gain minor US airplay which was a nice surprise. Oasis in America 2002-2009 was more of a legacy act. Hey let's go see that band with a couple big big tunes from 1996 when we were in High School. Shit, I say it all the time but most Americans think Oasis broke up in 1996! couldnt say it better. No one in my circle knows or talks about them after the mid 90's I'm the rare hold out who loves it all to this day. People here just don't know what they are missing. If they heard a lot of the stuff other then the few hits in the states they would love it I think
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Aug 1, 2017 8:22:46 GMT -5
I was let down by the interview as a whole. Maybe i had too high expectations. People were talking about how he gets all this shit out of the interviewee and presses them but he really just watched supersonic and lamely kissed Liams arse in the same way he would have done the same if it was Noel there. Btw has anyone seen the 9/11 video of Stern's show? Genuinely fascinating in so many ways. When people say the 90s ended that day just watch that video to see why. He basically went from saying we should nuke asian kids in 2001 to being a judge on americas got talent in 2010 lol I had just moved to NYC a week prior and listened to Howard during the whole fucking disaster. It was surreal. Radio and AOL instant messenger was the only way we could reach family and friends. I dont think its any exaggeration to say the whole media landscape changed that day and there's no better example than a mainstream radio presenter calling to nuke the middle east!
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 1, 2017 8:34:24 GMT -5
I had just moved to NYC a week prior and listened to Howard during the whole fucking disaster. It was surreal. Radio and AOL instant messenger was the only way we could reach family and friends. I dont think its any exaggeration to say the whole media landscape changed that day and there's no better example than a mainstream radio presenter calling to nuke the middle east! Got a current president who would like to do the same to the Middle East, North Korea and China.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 1, 2017 8:42:21 GMT -5
Oasis is not reuniting. These aren't fun little side projects for Noel. This is his new career and he's never stated otherwise unlike Liam who said he would drop his solo act in 2 seconds to reunite Oasis. Said similar things with Beady Eye which to me immediately cheapened their long term perspective and heart of the "new" band. I think Liam is putting in %100, there is no shame for Liam in saying Oasis was his first and biggest love and that he would go back to it. Oasis is a long way off and I doubt Liam is thinking about every second he just gets asked in every interview I do agree. I think he's a lot of engaged on his first proper solo release. And he should be. He's the brand. LIAM GALLAGHER. I just think both brothers should be happy/content with current path. Noel holds all the cards. Doesn't seem like an Oasis reunion is going to happen because he's so against it.
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Post by bt95 on Aug 1, 2017 9:39:41 GMT -5
Just a question in regards to that last bit, assuming you're both American... Obviously, I know after Be Here Now for about 5-6 years they really were completely off the grid in the U.S - bar hardcore fans clearly - but in terms of popularity (at least for the gigs) did they not come back around the time of Don't Believe The Truth. It's always a bit weird for me to think they went from a relatively small (in terms of both length and venues played) tour of the U.S in 2002, to doing two decent-sized tours of amphitheatres and arenas in 2005, then obviously another arena tour in 2008. I mean I know Oasis were 'big' in the U.S. in the 90's. but evidently nowhere near the U2 levels or the level Coldplay are now at, but it does seem they had a bit of a 'comeback' over there before the split? From a 22-year-old Brit's point of view, I've literally grown up knowing 'Oasis' as pretty much the biggest thing in the country music/culture wise since I was old enough to remember. Oasis and football - they go hand in hand. So it's hard to imagine it being so different elsewhere even though I know it is. They really are just simply massive over here. For all the ridiculous shouts of 'bigger than the Beatles' back in the 90's, I can guarantee for a lot of people my age the Beatles are only relevant because of Oasis (as backwards as that is and that's not my p.o.v)... Everybody in the UK (old enough to know obviously) has an opinion on Oasis. I suppose that's the best way to sum it up. Even in Europe (Spain, Italy especially) the Oasis name is still just huge. If anything, Oasis are bigger now than when they broke up - a whole new generation now hail Oasis as 'their' band, and the indie band's that are most successful at the moment are the ones who will constantly cite Oasis as influences (an area where Kasabian and the Arctic Monkeys have failed). In regards the interview, Stern - in general - I find quite annoying. I know he's a huge hit in the U.S. and I don't mind him, but I can just find his humour/manor a bit grating at times. It's a funny enough interview though, but as others have said, it's just Stern being a hypocrite (even though I guess he couldn't give a monkeys about what was said 20 years ago now), so in that sense it's quite funny. Liam is in good form. Both vocally and with how he's presenting himself in the media. Had this discussion on Saturday with a few mates - basically just saying it's a PR masterpiece from Debbie. Fair play to her, and Liam. Liam became a parody of himself in Oasis' later years and in Beady Eye, like he was playing Peter Pan after too much fairy dust. He's back now, grown up, but without any of the edge taken away. It's great to see. Then again, I still stand by the fact that anyone who had the success he had by the age of 22/23 has done very well to have a modicum of sanity by the age of 44. After 1998, Oasis had no more cultural impact in America. To me the HC and DBTT tours were similar. Both mid sized theaters and amphitheaters for the summer run. Both those albums sold around 150 to 200K. That's basically nothing. Even DOYS they played a lot of basketball arenas which was cool. Still the album sold nothing but TSOTL did gain minor US airplay which was a nice surprise. Oasis in America 2002-2009 was more of a legacy act. Hey let's go see that band with a couple big big tunes from 1996 when we were in High School. Shit, I say it all the time but most Americans think Oasis broke up in 1996! Fair enough. Though venues on the DBTT tour included Hollywood Bowl, Red Rock, MSG. Pretty prestigious, large scale venues? And they played the Staples Center and Oracle Arena etc on the DOYS tour didn't they? Obviously, that's just the 'major' music cities, and as you say was probably that 'legacy' thing.
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Post by Heebeejeebies on Aug 1, 2017 9:42:28 GMT -5
Could someone point me to this interview ? The youtube vid posted was taken down. Thanks. there you go mega.nz/#!eNQCnT5Q!183XlthViQEHju1Kp3g5dg0ZnQINuZxZc05aFoPb1so Hey, I'm having trouble with this. It won't let me download without making an account. It keeps saying I can't download a file larger than 1 gb without using their browser extension, but when I try to use the extension it still doesn't work. Could you possibly upload to google drive or something like that? Thanks for taking the time to put the file up!
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Post by jxing on Aug 1, 2017 10:43:52 GMT -5
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Post by vespa on Aug 1, 2017 10:57:08 GMT -5
They did have a resurgence in popularity in the u.s around DBTT and they were playing big arenas and amphitheaters ,the heathen Chemistry tour was also big but the album wasn't as popular ..DBTT did sell more than 150000 in the states though that's for sure and I believe there popularity in America is slightly under rated .Expect a decent push and promotion for Liam's album as Debbie is a very good pr guru and knows exactly Liam's worth..he's arguably a bigger name than noel as solo and he will hit markets like Japan in quite a big way,this will be interesting ..
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 1, 2017 11:27:37 GMT -5
They did have a resurgence in popularity in the u.s around DBTT and they were playing big arenas and amphitheaters ,the heathen Chemistry tour was also big but the album wasn't as popular ..DBTT did sell more than 150000 in the states though that's for sure and I believe there popularity in America is slightly under rated .Expect a decent push and promotion for Liam's album as Debbie is a very good pr guru and knows exactly Liam's worth..he's arguably a bigger name than noel as solo and he will hit markets like Japan in quite a big way,this will be interesting .. I think you are severely splitting hairs. Oasis had no great USA resurgence in the mid 2000s. It's more of "same as it ever was". DBTT sold 50,000 more copies compared to HC. That is a drop of rain in the ocean my friend. That's not moving the needle at all. If they had a great resurgence how come DOYS sold only 100,000 copies 2 years after the DBTT cycle ended? To me SOTSOG, HC, DBTT and DOYS all pretty much did the same businsss. Between 100K and 200K albums sold, mid size venues with a few peak names and little to zero radio play. Those are the facts of Oasis in America post 2000. Legacy act but it was fun gigs for sure. Can't call Liam a bigger name/solo star than Noel. He's already had two #1s and a big seller of HFB. Noel did all the same PR stuff Liam is doing in America and abroad. I've seen nothing different yet. That's not being a PR guru, that's just doing a normal marketing job that for whatever reason Beady Eye struggled with. Let Liam get some albums and succsss first, then we can have those conversations. Liam has only just begun. Let's enjoy this.
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Post by ponydigger9 on Aug 1, 2017 11:28:53 GMT -5
anyone have the whole interview?
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Post by knowhaimean on Aug 1, 2017 12:01:17 GMT -5
This is why I love video with the radio interviews - I want to see his facial expressions and hand gestures, etc. And, yes, I know it's radio and all...
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Post by jxing on Aug 1, 2017 12:07:07 GMT -5
This is why I love video with the radio interviews - I want to see his facial expressions and hand gestures, etc. And, yes, I know it's radio and all... Exactly. Give us the entire interview
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Post by knowhaimean on Aug 1, 2017 12:11:19 GMT -5
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Post by Heebeejeebies on Aug 1, 2017 13:42:38 GMT -5
If anyone's having trouble with the other download link, here's the full interview with no need to create an account: 1drv.ms/v/s!AjmvxQlRRuc3gTiYojjie7pj4RQD shoreline
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Post by dontbelievethetruth4 on Aug 1, 2017 13:48:31 GMT -5
They did have a resurgence in popularity in the u.s around DBTT and they were playing big arenas and amphitheaters ,the heathen Chemistry tour was also big but the album wasn't as popular ..DBTT did sell more than 150000 in the states though that's for sure and I believe there popularity in America is slightly under rated .Expect a decent push and promotion for Liam's album as Debbie is a very good pr guru and knows exactly Liam's worth..he's arguably a bigger name than noel as solo and he will hit markets like Japan in quite a big way,this will be interesting .. I think you are severely splitting hairs. Oasis had no great USA resurgence in the mid 2000s. It's more of "same as it ever was". DBTT sold 50,000 more copies compared to HC. That is a drop of rain in the ocean my friend. That's not moving the needle at all. If they had a great resurgence how come DOYS sold only 100,000 copies 2 years after the DBTT cycle ended? To me SOTSOG, HC, DBTT and DOYS all pretty much did the same businsss. Between 100K and 200K albums sold, mid size venues with a few peak names and little to zero radio play. Those are the facts of Oasis in America post 2000. Legacy act but it was fun gigs for sure. Can't call Liam a bigger name/solo star than Noel. He's already had two #1s and a big seller of HFB. Noel did all the same PR stuff Liam is doing in America and abroad. I've seen nothing different yet. That's not being a PR guru, that's just doing a normal marketing job that for whatever reason Beady Eye struggled with. Let Liam get some albums and succsss first, then we can have those conversations. Liam has only just begun. Let's enjoy this. you know the sad truth is these days that would be a number one album on all them with the hit the record industry has hit.
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Post by jupi on Aug 1, 2017 14:14:04 GMT -5
Gotta love his running style!!
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Post by knowhaimean on Aug 1, 2017 14:24:05 GMT -5
Gotta love his running style!! He had to go to the bathroom something fierce at that point. 😂
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Post by Mr. Sifter on Aug 1, 2017 14:35:04 GMT -5
If you can't piss... Dance!
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Post by stinenat on Aug 1, 2017 14:37:46 GMT -5
Liam needed a lyric sheet to sing fucking Wonderwall? I'm not even mad, that's just hilarious. If ANYONE in the western world wouldn't know the lyrics to Wonderwall it would be Liam fucking Gallagher. He transcends reason and expectation.
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Post by NicOasis on Aug 1, 2017 14:55:23 GMT -5
Love the bathroom dance before the final bit.
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Post by Regi on Aug 1, 2017 15:19:35 GMT -5
That pish dance is great! He must have been bursting.
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Post by dontbelievethetruth4 on Aug 1, 2017 15:32:23 GMT -5
Liam needed a lyric sheet to sing fucking Wonderwall? I'm not even mad, that's just hilarious. If ANYONE in the western world wouldn't know the lyrics to Wonderwall it would be Liam fucking Gallagher. He transcends reason and expectation. he knows them but I guess he feels better having it there. W/e makes him preform the best. I do love the many videos of his lyric issues over the years. There are some classics. Anyone have a fav? I like him messing up wonderwall over and over and Noel laughing his ass off
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