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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 16, 2015 13:38:17 GMT -5
You might be the ONLY person knocking Brady on that final drive in America. It wasn't an interception so why keep saying it. NFL history is filled with coulda, shoulda, woulda. Look at the first Pats/Giants Super Bowl. Eli was almost sacked twice on that play and somehow managed to complete a helmet catch. Gimme a break. Huh You and the three amigos ( idledreamer mg and the asshole formerly known as lib ) must not read. I only sId it was not a great drive , Brady barely moved the ball over mid field , and he needed a lucky dropped int. Whatever mate I don't see your point. All the Patriots needed was a FIELD GOAL and that's exactly what Brady delivered. I guess you forgot the facts again.............. Mission: To get in field goal range to nail a game winning kick to win 27-26 Situation: 4th and 10, no timeouts, on New England 20 yard line. Outcome: Brady drove into field goal range dinking and dunking. Spiking the ball on first downs immediately and got his team to field goal range where the kick was good. Get it yet? How many times this year have you seen a QB do that this season? Not many if any. And you keep bringing up the dropped INT. I can play that game too. Beckham only had that 87 yard TD because McCourty ran into and tripped Butler or else it's a 25 yard catch. Holding on that Blount TD, followed by an INT right after. I guess haters gonna hate.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2015 13:42:29 GMT -5
How many times have I seen a qb go from the 20 to the 40 ?? In person. ? Well starting from Richard Todd. Maybe 100 plus ...... GET IT YET ? No hate hate hate JUST NOTHING SPECIAL
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 16, 2015 13:45:58 GMT -5
How many times have I seen a qb go from the 20 to the 40 ?? In person. ? Well starting from Richard Todd. Maybe 100 plus ...... GET IT YET ? No hate hate hate JUST NOTHING SPECIAL You are ignoring the situation I said. 4th and 10, no timeouts. On his own 20 and under 35 seconds. That's the difference. Plus you got the facts wrong. Brady had to go from HIS 20 to the GIANTS 35 yard line to get into field goal range. Thats about 50 yards. That's all that was required and Brady rose to the challenge again. Reminded me of both the Ravens and Seahawks games from last postseason. But in those examples Brady actually needed to deliver a TD. Which he did because he's fucking awesome.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2015 13:50:14 GMT -5
How many times have I seen a qb go from the 20 to the 40 ?? In person. ? Well starting from Richard Todd. Maybe 100 plus ...... GET IT YET ? No hate hate hate JUST NOTHING SPECIAL You are ignoring the situation I said. 4th and 10, no timeouts. On his own 20 and under 35 seconds. That's the difference. Plus you got the facts wrong. Brady had to go from HIS 20 to the GIANTS 35 yard line to get into field goal range. Thats about 50 yards. That's all that was required and Brady rose to the challenge again. Reminded me of both the Ravens and Seahawks games from last postseason. But in those examples Brady actually needed to deliver a TD. Which he did because he's fucking awesome. And your not hearing me .....I seen it , Nothing special , honestly if not for a looooong feild goal he's a loser like his two super bowl losses
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 16, 2015 13:51:42 GMT -5
You are ignoring the situation I said. 4th and 10, no timeouts. On his own 20 and under 35 seconds. That's the difference. Plus you got the facts wrong. Brady had to go from HIS 20 to the GIANTS 35 yard line to get into field goal range. Thats about 50 yards. That's all that was required and Brady rose to the challenge again. Reminded me of both the Ravens and Seahawks games from last postseason. But in those examples Brady actually needed to deliver a TD. Which he did because he's fucking awesome. And your not hearing me .....I seen it , Nothing special , honestly if not for a looooong feild goal he's a loser like his two super bowl losses That's why it's a team game bro. Patriots needed a field goal. Needed to drive 50 yards in 35 seconds on 4th down. No timeouts. Brady drove down the field to put his boy into field goal range to potentially win. Mission accomplished. I'd love to see you list examples of that from this season or the last 10. Quick.....go!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2015 13:55:54 GMT -5
No need you and that retard ( lib ) only talk about how great Brady is ...and he is. He is a all time great , maybe top 5 , I still would take Montana , staubach , Marino ( with a comparable team ) manning ( see Marino ) elway. Ect ect. But your head turns to jello when trying to talk sports history so never mind
Your two weaknesses Taylor and tom. And buying into that idiot lib bullshit
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 16, 2015 13:59:00 GMT -5
No need you and that retard ( lib ) only talk about how great Brady is ...and he is. He is a all time great , maybe top 5 , I still would take Montana , staubach , Marino ( with a comparable team ) manning ( see Marino ) elway. Ect ect. But your head turns to jello when trying to talk sports history so never mind Your two weaknesses Taylor and tom. And buying into that idiot lib bullshit GOD BLESS Marino? Gimme a break. Peyton? Guy has played 18 years and his postseason stats are considerably worse than his epic regular season stats. He's also a losing QB in the postseason and super bowl. If he didn't play the Bears in 2007 he'd be 0-3. He played a terrible super bowl that year. Brady has hall of fame regular season stats and actually raises his bar in the postseason. Peyton doesn't do that. For whatever reason. Brady's biggest moments are always when it matters the most. Postseason.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2015 14:10:50 GMT -5
No need you and that retard ( lib ) only talk about how great Brady is ...and he is. He is a all time great , maybe top 5 , I still would take Montana , staubach , Marino ( with a comparable team ) manning ( see Marino ) elway. Ect ect. But your head turns to jello when trying to talk sports history so never mind Your two weaknesses Taylor and tom. And buying into that idiot lib bullshit GOD BLESS Marino? Gimme a break. Peyton? Guy has played 18 years and his postseason stats are considerably worse than his epic regular season stats. He's also a losing QB in the postseason and super bowl. If he didn't play the Bears in 2007 he'd be 0-3. He played a terrible super bowl that year. Brady has hall of fame regular season stats and actually raises his bar in the postseason. Peyton doesn't do that. For whatever reason. Brady's biggest moments are always when it matters the most. Postseason. Seriously ?? I thought you were smarter , I guess I was wrong. Marino ? Put him on the Patriots and put Brady on those dolphins teams. And let's see who has the numbers ...... Put Brady on those colts teams , and let's see .... What a piss poor comeback. Very Let It Bleed in intelligence sadly. Brady is the don sutton of football will have great stats , but alwAys played on the very best teams. Matt casell won 11 with that unit. Nuff said
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 16, 2015 14:34:56 GMT -5
Marino? Gimme a break. Peyton? Guy has played 18 years and his postseason stats are considerably worse than his epic regular season stats. He's also a losing QB in the postseason and super bowl. If he didn't play the Bears in 2007 he'd be 0-3. He played a terrible super bowl that year. Brady has hall of fame regular season stats and actually raises his bar in the postseason. Peyton doesn't do that. For whatever reason. Brady's biggest moments are always when it matters the most. Postseason. Seriously ?? I thought you were smarter , I guess I was wrong. Marino ? Put him on the Patriots and put Brady on those dolphins teams. And let's see who has the numbers ...... Put Brady on those colts teams , and let's see .... What a piss poor comeback. Very Let It Bleed in intelligence sadly. Brady is the don sutton of football will have great stats , but alwAys played on the very best teams. Matt casell won 11 with that unit. Nuff said Wow......Don't Sutton. You've lost all NFL comment privileges.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2015 14:37:43 GMT -5
Seriously ?? I thought you were smarter , I guess I was wrong. Marino ? Put him on the Patriots and put Brady on those dolphins teams. And let's see who has the numbers ...... Put Brady on those colts teams , and let's see .... What a piss poor comeback. Very Let It Bleed in intelligence sadly. Brady is the don sutton of football will have great stats , but alwAys played on the very best teams. Matt casell won 11 with that unit. Nuff said Wow......Don't Sutton. You've lost all NFL comment privileges. Yea. I APOLOGISE. Even I know that was too far Brady is a all time great I know this ...sutton comparison. Out of line. Am I reinstated ?
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Post by Sternumman on Nov 16, 2015 15:54:07 GMT -5
I think Brady would have done fine on those Colts teams. Harrison and Wayne are better than any receivers excluding Moss that Brady ever had and James in his prime was a better RB than the Pats ever had.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2015 15:59:32 GMT -5
brady is a all time great. Where he places is debate able. N. Because he always played on winning teams. And when he was hurt his backup filled in. Not his fault But when staubach , Bradshaw , elway , retired there teams suffered. The patriots missed the playoffs. But won 11. Just saying , No hate ,I know BRADY is good
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 16, 2015 16:12:54 GMT -5
brady is a all time great. Where he places is debate able. N. Because he always played on winning teams. And when he was hurt his backup filled in. Not his fault But when staubach , Bradshaw , elway , retired there teams suffered. The patriots missed the playoffs. But won 11. Just saying , No hate ,I know BRADY is good Let's wait until Brady retires to judge him. The Patriots were coming off one of the most dominating seasons in NFL history. Loads of studs on that team. Of course that was going to carry over well despite a season ending injury to Brady on the first drive of the season. Let's also be fair........... - Dallas won 12 games 3 out of the first 4 seasons after Staubach retired. 5 playoff years to follow in 6 years. - The Steelers win-loss records improved the 2 years following Bradshaws retirement. Both playoff years. - The Broncos went on to win 8+ games 7 out of the next 8 years. Playoffs 4 times. - Even your beloved Joe Montana, the 49ers averaged 12 wins a year for 8 seasons after Joe Cool left. Winning a Super Bowl in 1994. That's not suffering. Ask a Bills, Jets, Dolphins or Redskins fan.
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Post by Let It Bleed on Nov 16, 2015 16:41:53 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2015 20:48:46 GMT -5
brady is a all time great. Where he places is debate able. N. Because he always played on winning teams. And when he was hurt his backup filled in. Not his fault But when staubach , Bradshaw , elway , retired there teams suffered. The patriots missed the playoffs. But won 11. Just saying , No hate ,I know BRADY is good Let's wait until Brady retires to judge him. The Patriots were coming off one of the most dominating seasons in NFL history. Loads of studs on that team. Of course that was going to carry over well despite a season ending injury to Brady on the first drive of the season. Let's also be fair........... - Dallas won 12 games 3 out of the first 4 seasons after Staubach retired. 5 playoff years to follow in 6 years. - The Steelers win-loss records improved the 2 years following Bradshaws retirement. Both playoff years. - The Broncos went on to win 8+ games 7 out of the next 8 years. Playoffs 4 times. - Even your beloved Joe Montana, the 49ers averaged 12 wins a year for 8 seasons after Joe Cool left. Winning a Super Bowl in 1994. That's not suffering. Ask a Bills, Jets, Dolphins or Redskins fan. I don't love Montana. I think he is as overrated as BRADY actually , My top 5 has Marino , staubach, , ,the snake , ,,,,if those guys had Brady's or Montanan teams they would piss on Brady ......not a Montana at all , surprised at your oversight
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 16, 2015 20:56:15 GMT -5
Let's wait until Brady retires to judge him. The Patriots were coming off one of the most dominating seasons in NFL history. Loads of studs on that team. Of course that was going to carry over well despite a season ending injury to Brady on the first drive of the season. Let's also be fair........... - Dallas won 12 games 3 out of the first 4 seasons after Staubach retired. 5 playoff years to follow in 6 years. - The Steelers win-loss records improved the 2 years following Bradshaws retirement. Both playoff years. - The Broncos went on to win 8+ games 7 out of the next 8 years. Playoffs 4 times. - Even your beloved Joe Montana, the 49ers averaged 12 wins a year for 8 seasons after Joe Cool left. Winning a Super Bowl in 1994. That's not suffering. Ask a Bills, Jets, Dolphins or Redskins fan. I don't love Montana. I think he is as overrated as BRADY actually , My top 5 has Marino , staubach, , ,the snake , ,,,,if those guys had Brady's or Montanan teams they would piss on Brady ......not a Montana at all , surprised at your oversight My oversight? You made a statement about 3 quarterbacks and the state of the teams they left that is 100% false.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2015 21:24:24 GMT -5
Huh. I think your mistaking , I'll spell it out , If Marino was on this patriot team he never would have lost two Super Bowls he would be 6-0. Do you comprehend. My friend ?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2015 21:25:02 GMT -5
Marino never had Brady's teams. If he did he would piss on every record Brady has
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2015 23:19:36 GMT -5
I don't hate you at all. Unlike the absolute asshole of fan of yours Let It Bleed. As if I needed to state the obvious ......I respect the patriots , I think they are a all time great team. But they have flaws . They have been beaten in not one but two Super Bowls. So nobody can call it a fluke they lost once yes twice no ..... But Brady has won 4 as have the patriots it puts them in the short list of best ever teams and quarterbacks......... Have I seen better Yes. IMO I have .....the steelers were better as a team so were the niners the 85 bears 86 giants , the Cowboys in the 90 s ...as quarterbacks go , I think Marino and elway would have had more success if they had gronk and the pats organization... I also think staubach and stabler would as well. My opinion. No hate at Fact
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And I'm tougher than you KALAS ESTABLISHED 2002 GOD BLESS THANKS
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 16, 2015 23:40:07 GMT -5
I don't hate you at all. Unlike the absolute asshole of fan of yours Let It Bleed. As if I needed to state the obvious ......I respect the patriots , I think they are a all time great team. But they have flaws . They have been beaten in not one but two Super Bowls. So nobody can call it a fluke they lost once yes twice no ..... But Brady has won 4 as have the patriots it puts them in the short list of best ever teams and quarterbacks......... Have I seen better Yes. IMO I have .....the steelers were better as a team so were the niners the 85 bears 86 giants , the Cowboys in the 90 s ...as quarterbacks go , I think Marino and elway would have had more success if they had gronk and the pats organization... I also think staubach and stabler would as well. My opinion. No hate at Fact You act like Staubach wasn't surrounded by Hall of Fame talent, or Montana or Bradshaw. Great teams have great QBs, players and coaches.
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