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Post by Let It Bleed on Jul 12, 2015 18:06:51 GMT -5
So what are we thinking? No suspension just MASSIVE fine for Brady and steep warnings? The Wells report holds as much weight as the Mitchell Report and MLB suspended nobody over that. It should be reduced at least two games... Greg Hardy's suspension was reduced by over half for a serious criminal act, so... My guess: one game suspension. I know no matter the outcome, Frodis won't be happy with it because Tom Brady never called her back after their first date. God bless.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 12, 2015 20:02:07 GMT -5
So what are we thinking? No suspension just MASSIVE fine for Brady and steep warnings? The Wells report holds as much weight as the Mitchell Report and MLB suspended nobody over that. It should be reduced at least two games... Greg Hardy's suspension was reduced by over half for a serious criminal act, so... My guess: one game suspension. I know no matter the outcome, Frodis won't be happy with it because Tom Brady never called her back after their first date. God bless. This league is stupid. Where is the suspensions for Chargers WRs, Rivers or coaching staff for using stick'em on game balls? Where is the suspension for Aaron Rodgers who is on record before and since DeflateGate saying he always has his balls well over the max limit? If a punishment comes down, it should be universal for all. Not just the Patriots and the cry baby Raven and Colts. I can't wait to see what Belichick is gonna do to get them back (besides destroy them on the football field). Bunch of pansies.
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Like a pitcher getting caught withn spit ball. , the catcher knew , the manager knew , but the culprit takes the blame , BRADY got caught , whatever the punishment who cares , come the pkayoffs he will be in the huddle , Does he and bellicheck cheat ? Well maybe yes maybe no , they push the envelope though , that's what winners do , twenty years from now it may be common for qbs to deflate a ball if there home team , now though it isn't , M either way patriots WOULDA won the game , no big deal
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2015 20:42:01 GMT -5
now, i have to say i'm getting a pretty good sized gronk in my riddells from this picture
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 12, 2015 20:47:12 GMT -5
Like a pitcher getting caught withn spit ball. , the catcher knew , the manager knew , but the culprit takes the blame , BRADY got caught , whatever the punishment who cares , come the pkayoffs he will be in the huddle , Does he and bellicheck cheat ? Well maybe yes maybe no , they push the envelope though , that's what winners do , twenty years from now it may be common for qbs to deflate a ball if there home team , now though it isn't , M either way patriots WOULDA won the game , no big deal Caught? NFL couldn't even run a proper sting operation. Didn't record PSI levels before the game. Ran out of time at halftime to record the Colts balls (only 4 done and 3 of them under the minimum. Weird). All the Wells Report produced (after 4 months and $6M) was text messages between support staff from October that didn't mention names, teams or psi levels. That's the evidence? Oh and they think the 90 seconds in the bathroom was where the act was done on game day. 12 balls under 12.5 PSI in 90 seconds. Go!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Gimme a fucking break. In a real trial with real arbitration, this case gets dismissed. NFL living in its own world.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2015 21:00:51 GMT -5
Lennon2217 come on now man ,,,,,,,everyone in the game has said Tom BRADY had to know the ball was deflated , but who cares ?? It's sorta like NIXON in the 72 election .....he did not neec to spy on the watergate he won easy , and BRADY did not need deflated footballs , but they both did what they did ..accept it , move on and realize BRADY will do anything for a edge , I don't see a problem with that ..do you ?? Guy is still great , but he DEFINATLY crossed line as a " gentleman "
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 12, 2015 21:06:48 GMT -5
Lennon2217 come on now man ,,,,,,,everyone in the game has said Tom BRADY had to know the ball was deflated , but who cares ?? It's sorta like NIXON in the 72 election .....he did not neec to spy on the watergate he won easy , and BRADY did not need deflated footballs , but they both did what they did ..accept it , move on and realize BRADY will do anything for a edge , I don't see a problem with that ..do you ?? Guy is still great , but he DEFINATLY crossed line as a " gentleman " The point is you gotta prove it. Not much........proof. Speculation and assumptions can't be it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2015 21:12:24 GMT -5
Lennon2217 come on now man ,,,,,,,everyone in the game has said Tom BRADY had to know the ball was deflated , but who cares ?? It's sorta like NIXON in the 72 election .....he did not neec to spy on the watergate he won easy , and BRADY did not need deflated footballs , but they both did what they did ..accept it , move on and realize BRADY will do anything for a edge , I don't see a problem with that ..do you ?? Guy is still great , but he DEFINATLY crossed line as a " gentleman " The point is you gotta prove it. Not much........proof. Speculation and assumptions can't be it I agree. I also think no matter what the pats win the super bowl and the AFC last year , it's much to do about nothing ,,,but every " real analyst " on NFL net or espn knows BRADY knew , my point is so what He still had to complete the passes , the defense still had to perform , did it give him a edge mentally Yea , But not physically , guy is still as good as it gets deflated or not
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2015 21:27:07 GMT -5
Lennon2217 I think the biggest joke is the hardy suspension , I mean this guy shouldn't be in leauge ,, who cares if a ball was deflated a bit for a half !!!! This guy is a psyco , Typical Jerry , drinking the KOOL aid
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Post by mar on Jul 22, 2015 9:45:09 GMT -5
oooops after so long away posted in shouts instead of thread me muppet
whose still about to rile when the mighty Hawks kick ass then?
Lions? Mimmi?
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Post by mar on Jul 22, 2015 9:45:36 GMT -5
and yea brady is a twat
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Post by Let It Bleed on Jul 22, 2015 10:39:35 GMT -5
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Post by mar on Jul 22, 2015 11:02:49 GMT -5
lol very good but you can't credit him that win even ida called a handoff to Beastmode result td and win for hawks
now we just need to sign russ w.......
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Post by mar on Jul 22, 2015 11:04:46 GMT -5
wilson to graham.........td
wilson to lockett.............td
wilson to hughes.........td
wilson to baldwin............td
OH yea with a beastmode td interspersed
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Let It Bleed on Jul 22, 2015 12:05:44 GMT -5
lol very good but you can't credit him that win even ida called a handoff to Beastmode result td and win for hawks now we just need to sign russ w....... This play....? Best play in the last 50 years... God bless.
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Post by Sternumman on Jul 29, 2015 16:44:42 GMT -5
Goodell is an asshat. I wouldn't have given them my phone either.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 29, 2015 16:59:26 GMT -5
Goodell is an asshat. I wouldn't have given them my phone either. The Players Union would never ever allow it. Sets a bad precedent for all future league cases. Fuck that. This is how I see it all playing out leading up to week 1 of the National Football League. 1. Brady will win his appeal in the courts (worked for Rice and Peterson and they hit/beat/women/children). 2. Goodell already know the NFL will lose in the courts but doesn't want to look weak by changing their initial ruling in May. So now he has an "out" so to speak. "Hey I gave stern punishment, the US courts overturned it not me!" 3. Brady plays all 16 games + postseason. 4. NFL left with even more yolk on their faces. Now I've said many many times that I'm not saying something shady didn't occur but that Wells report gave zero evidence and concluded with "Brady generally aware of ball tampering" but have no concrete evidence to support it but speculation. You can't suspend based on that. Gimme a break. Those text messages from the ball boys in October hardly prove anything. No names, teams mentioned. No PSI levels. Nothing. The NFL is gonna end up looking so fucking stupid for this failed sting operation and paid for report by Tom Wells.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2015 17:54:15 GMT -5
TOM Brady will not win his appeal in the courts , He destroyed his cell phone , he claims to have no knowledge of the ball boys name ,( which everybody on espnwho ever plsyed said is a outright lie ). Again I don't care , they still would have won ...but BRADY Won't win a appeal he certainly won't get all 4 games reduced to zero , best case they cut in half , even that seems far fetched ...face it , like a NASCAR crew chief , he got caught , everyone might cheat , but when you get caught , you pay ,,,simple as ...BRADY likes a soft ball , so be it , but if it's below regulations he will pay , as will his legacy in some fans eyes , For him to say he does not know the ball boys name almost made "STINK "CHOKE WITH LAUGHTER ..... Face it , he took libertys he got caught , now he pays , Pats still would have won , but now his legacy is most DEFINATLY tarnished whether you like it or not
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Post by Sternumman on Jul 29, 2015 19:57:57 GMT -5
TOM Brady will not win his appeal in the courts , He destroyed his cell phone , he claims to have no knowledge of the ball boys name ,( which everybody on espnwho ever plsyed said is a outright lie ). Again I don't care , they still would have won ...but BRADY Won't win a appeal he certainly won't get all 4 games reduced to zero , best case they cut in half , even that seems far fetched ...face it , like a NASCAR crew chief , he got caught , everyone might cheat , but when you get caught , you pay ,,,simple as ...BRADY likes a soft ball , so be it , but if it's below regulations he will pay , as will his legacy in some fans eyes , For him to say he does not know the ball boys name almost made "STINK "CHOKE WITH LAUGHTER ..... Face it , he took libertys he got caught , now he pays , Pats still would have won , but now his legacy is most DEFINATLY tarnished whether you like it or not What right does the nfl have to demand his phone?. Their responsibility was to find proof that he had knowledge of tampered balls. They have no authority to seize his private belongings. It was not a work phone. He bought a new phone so he disposed of the old one. I don't blame him for destroying it. Phones contain every personal detail about a person now a days. Tmz would pay a pretty penny for a celebrities phone.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 29, 2015 20:10:52 GMT -5
TOM Brady will not win his appeal in the courts , He destroyed his cell phone , he claims to have no knowledge of the ball boys name ,( which everybody on espnwho ever plsyed said is a outright lie ). Again I don't care , they still would have won ...but BRADY Won't win a appeal he certainly won't get all 4 games reduced to zero , best case they cut in half , even that seems far fetched ...face it , like a NASCAR crew chief , he got caught , everyone might cheat , but when you get caught , you pay ,,,simple as ...BRADY likes a soft ball , so be it , but if it's below regulations he will pay , as will his legacy in some fans eyes , For him to say he does not know the ball boys name almost made "STINK "CHOKE WITH LAUGHTER ..... Face it , he took libertys he got caught , now he pays , Pats still would have won , but now his legacy is most DEFINATLY tarnished whether you like it or not What right does the nfl have to demand his phone?. Their responsibility was to find proof that he had knowledge of tampered balls. They have no authority to seize his private belongings. It was not a work phone. He bought a new phone so he disposed of the old one. I don't blame him for destroying it. Phones contain every personal detail about a person now a days. Tmz would pay a pretty penny for a celebrities phone. It is a very known thing that the NFL has a huge leak problem partly because they love to leak information to drum up storylines and keep football on the nations mind during "down months". I wouldn't trust the NFL at all with private information, photos, videos, etc. You give it to the NFL and before you know it everyone knows your business. Fuck that.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 29, 2015 20:14:44 GMT -5
TOM Brady will not win his appeal in the courts , He destroyed his cell phone , he claims to have no knowledge of the ball boys name ,( which everybody on espnwho ever plsyed said is a outright lie ). Again I don't care , they still would have won ...but BRADY Won't win a appeal he certainly won't get all 4 games reduced to zero , best case they cut in half , even that seems far fetched ...face it , like a NASCAR crew chief , he got caught , everyone might cheat , but when you get caught , you pay ,,,simple as ...BRADY likes a soft ball , so be it , but if it's below regulations he will pay , as will his legacy in some fans eyes , For him to say he does not know the ball boys name almost made "STINK "CHOKE WITH LAUGHTER ..... Face it , he took libertys he got caught , now he pays , Pats still would have won , but now his legacy is most DEFINATLY tarnished whether you like it or not In a real court room, not that kangaroo court nonsense the NFL has been doing, you need to supply EVIDENCE. Something the Wells Report lacks tremendously. They also have no witnesses or smoking gun. This case is going to get thrown out in 2 seconds. Tom's phone has NOTHING to do with the act of tampering with footballs. He is under no obligation to supply it. The NFL needs to supply photos, videos, witnesses about the AFC Championship game. They haven't done that. What they did show was a sting operation gone terribly wrong. The courts sided with Rice and Peterson, guys who hit women/children. They aren't gonna care about Footballs a couple ticks under the standard PSI. Shit, 3 of the 4 Colts balls at halftime measured under the limit too. Funny how they "ran out of time" to finish the Colts measuring right?
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Hey now ,,,, i dont think i mattered at all Lennon2217. I think BRADY and the pats win no matter what ....but much like NIXON at watwrgate. He simply got caught man ......NIXON would have won the election irregardless , but he wanted that " edge ". Same with BRADY , , i condone what TOM did. But once your caught , deal with it , you lose 4 games ? Big deal. The payoff was the super bowl. And to me BRADY is still top 3 all time , others will argue. He needed deflated balls to win his 4 th , Not me , with two minutes or less to go he is as good as it gets
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2015 21:03:07 GMT -5
IWhile we are on QBS RIP TO " the snake ". As good a quaterback as you will ever see , under these rules of no contact football , he would have rewrote many records can, and im a STEELER fan. Rip Kenny
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