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Post by steve020409 on May 30, 2017 17:39:07 GMT -5
I think it's way better than the Beady Eye days. There has been little snippets of his gig last night and I think he sounds great live
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Post by ninestonecowboy on May 30, 2017 17:45:10 GMT -5
Sounds the same as the Beady Eye days really but a bit stronger and less tired because he hasn't been on a long tour. He wasn't doing that annoying pulling away from the mic thing much though.
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Post by tomlivesforever on May 30, 2017 19:05:37 GMT -5
I thought he was perfectly fine. But early tour is not a problem for Liam most of the time, its when he's 3 months in.
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Post by spaneli on May 30, 2017 19:07:25 GMT -5
I thought he was perfectly fine. But early tour is not a problem for Liam most of the time, its when he's 3 months in. I didn't listen to the gig, but same. I would expect Liam's voice to be fine at the beginning of a tour. It'd obviously be worrying if it wasn't, but later in a tour is a different story.
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Post by Flatulating Hallelujah on May 30, 2017 19:14:24 GMT -5
It sounds like Arc Angel Gabriel after a heavy fags and booze session.
AKA Biblical.
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Post by frjdoasis on May 30, 2017 20:27:08 GMT -5
Sounds the same as the Beady Eye days really but a bit stronger and less tired because he hasn't been on a long tour. He wasn't doing that annoying pulling away from the mic thing much though. THIS
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Post by squarewave on May 30, 2017 22:04:26 GMT -5
it was hard to tell how his voice sounded from the stream but at least he's lowered the key for slide away and d'you know what i mean. makes a difference. the background vocalist was much better than gem or andy so that helped with the harmonies. he'll never be what he was but if he can stay sober for the gigs that will help. he seemed to not be drunk for this show and it made a difference. your voice gets fucked by alcohol, dries it out, makes you unable to hear when you are forcing things. if he stays away from drinking too much before the show he should be alright.
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Post by august on May 30, 2017 22:04:56 GMT -5
Sounds horrible when trying to hit high notes (despite being backed up by a rock band), alright when not, and it even sounds good in some cases.
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Post by durk on May 30, 2017 22:09:25 GMT -5
very good. like the layoff and change of lifestyle have served him well. and i think he understands that now- has grown more mature.
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Post by El Auténtico Dios on May 30, 2017 22:42:28 GMT -5
2017 = beady eye 2011... no so good, but decent anyway, it's what is it.
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Post by oasisserbia on May 31, 2017 3:00:31 GMT -5
Let's be honest, objectively, he sounds shit. You can see little improvement but if I was someone who never heard of Liam and Oasis and this was my first time listening to him, I would think, my god, this is terrible, this guy can't sing.
And I've heard that before from people who were on Oasis gigs but were not big Oasis fans - Noel was good, Liam can't sing.
We, as fans, can be happy with this little things and improvements but I don't think that he will draw bigger crowd than Beady Eye. His gigs can be hell of a experience for us mad fer it fans with beer in our hands and singing every word but it's shit experience for everybody else.
People are now hailing his ''falsetto'' on Bold chorus but if I went to some local pub and heard singer from some local band to sing like that, I would laugh my face off.
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Post by standbymoi on May 31, 2017 3:17:01 GMT -5
He's got more breath (from keeping fit) to hold notes longer and finish sentences but the high chorus notes still sound strained.
As another poster just said I'd say the voice is sounding BDI 2011 DGSS quality at the moment.
It will be hard for him to not drink, smoke and socialise after the gigs. As that's what he needs to avoid if he's to keep it as it is for the tours.
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Post by draper on May 31, 2017 3:31:54 GMT -5
I think he sounds the best he can nowadays. He even sounds quite good on Slide Away. If he can keep this form throughout the whole tour, that would be great.
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Post by bardes on May 31, 2017 4:08:21 GMT -5
Let's be honest, objectively, he sounds shit. You can see little improvement but if I was someone who never heard of Liam and Oasis and this was my first time listening to him, I would think, my god, this is terrible, this guy can't sing. And I've heard that before from people who were on Oasis gigs but were not big Oasis fans - Noel was good, Liam can't sing. We, as fans, can be happy with this little things and improvements but I don't think that he will draw bigger crowd than Beady Eye. His gigs can be hell of a experience for us mad fer it fans with beer in our hands and singing every word but it's shit experience for everybody else. People are now hailing his ''falsetto'' on Bold chorus but if I went to some local pub and heard singer from some local band to sing like that, I would laugh my face off. I fucking love you. Finally honest point of view. He sounds shit and nothing changed at all.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on May 31, 2017 4:16:18 GMT -5
Okay first of all, high notes have never been his strongest point and I haven't really heard a falsetto or high notes last night. Maybe I'm deaf though.
Anyway, his voice sounds exactly the same to me as before, but less weak, a bit stronger and he also finished the lines and articulated well.
I got the impression that halfway through, he began to get tired and to struggle again, but I'll gladly take back my words if that's not the case. The audio quality wasn't really that great.
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Post by Thomas on May 31, 2017 4:26:07 GMT -5
I felt less confidence on the new tunes and a more consistent approach on the Oasis ones. Voice was overall quite standard for Liam nowadays, and that's not a very good thing. I expected it to be a bit better, hence it's the very first gig. Glad he didn't cut off the lines this time tho – he seems to have improved on the breathing stuff.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 4:39:43 GMT -5
Needs to drop Bold from the set because he clearly can't sing it, but otherwise all was good.
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Post by revol on May 31, 2017 4:44:45 GMT -5
As per usual - it's not only about whether he can currently sing or not, but mainly about if he can be arsed to perform properly. It was the 1st gig, so I'm guessing he wanted to give his 100%, but there WILL be concerts where he won't be that interested or/and will be in a bad mood. It always shows.
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Post by Thomas on May 31, 2017 4:47:11 GMT -5
I think he sounded pretty good in Bold. Wall Of Glass was disappointingly bad, though, (the vocals, the tune is ace).
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on May 31, 2017 5:01:18 GMT -5
I think he sounded pretty good in Bold. Wall Of Glass was disappointingly bad, though, (the vocals, the tune is ace). Oh really? For me is was exactly the other way around. On Bold it sounded like he was straining a bit, as if the chorus was too high or difficult, while Wall Of Glass sounded pretty good and bad ass IMO.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 5:56:45 GMT -5
At least its not getting worst
There were times when we couldnt even be sure about that
So the small improvments are like bonuses!
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on May 31, 2017 6:05:03 GMT -5
I think the new songs were where he struggled. Just by seemingly not knowing them well enough.
I think we all have that vision he will come back on stage and just hit us with that 1995 vocal again. People are having a pop at people for that but i think its only natural as fans to dream like that.
What i do think is that his approach to his singing is wrong. I dont think anyone will have sat down with him and even tackled the issue of his live singing. Maybe because outside the fanbase it is never really spoke of. Chris Moyles mentioning him cutting off words was literally the first time ive heard "mainstream media" even commentate on his live vocals. If he had more comments of that nature then im sure it would at least create a debate on ideas like vocal surgery etc.
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Post by vespa on May 31, 2017 6:11:09 GMT -5
Are we really judging this off some shitty streaming? And who stands at a gig listening to see if he can hit high notes??liam won't ever be the vocalist of the mid 90s like bono isnt ,like rod stewart isn't ,there voices alter ..what Liam brings is exactly what he bought last night ,the atmosphere,the songs ,just be pleased he's back
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Post by bmore007 on May 31, 2017 6:12:46 GMT -5
Sounded like he was struggling to me. People saying he sounds good or much better are kidding themselves or just having a laugh
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Post by difbeerstilldrinking on May 31, 2017 6:17:56 GMT -5
I think it sounds weaker than 2011 if I'm honest. The first couple of shows with Beady Eye, specifically Four Letter Word were very strong - Though the songs has less high notes.
Wall of Glass was very ropey, off key from the get go, couldn't hit the high note and to top it off the chorus was shite, disappointing after such a big build up.
DYKWIM was maybe the strongest song on the night, Be Here Now was okay - but didn't go for the 'get a GRIP inside' - probably a good thing.
As posted earlier, if you're not a Liam fan, he sounds crap. If he does live TV stuff I'd be very concerned, but I really do want to be proven wrong. I honestly have no idea why he doesn't get proper vocal coaching. I think he seems humbled, so maybe he will. Is it too late though? Probably.
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