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Post by Gas Panic on May 11, 2017 10:34:47 GMT -5
Honest... If I was going to a gig - and a mate had gone to a gig a few days previous - then I'd want to experience the same setlist that they did. Just my opinion. I enjoy it when bands switch a few songs around - I'm all for that - but nah, fuck switching it every night. I think that's a bigger fuck you to fans than keeping it similar is. Why would putting more effort in the gigs / rehearsals by radical changing the set list be a 'fuck you' to the fans? And what's so important about seeing the same show as your mate? I don't get that at all. By that logic a band should only play one set list throughout their entire career through fear of annoying fans between tours.
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Post by seanrulesrh on May 11, 2017 10:55:49 GMT -5
There are some songs that he should put out of the setlist. ITHOTM is a good song,but he got much better ones. Ballad Of The Mighty doesn't sound that well live. EIOTR is mega live btw
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Post by skyofred on May 11, 2017 12:15:40 GMT -5
I didn't go to his last show in Toronto at Echo Beach because I knew he would play the same exact set. And he was boring the last time I saw him at the Sony Centre. His bandmates must want to kill themselves playing the same shit every night. No one will ever touch Pearl Jam in this area... They played 2 shows in Toronto once... I went to both and I shit u not they only played 3 songs the same from the night before. I didn't go to the echo beach concert as well because I went to the Sony centre concert and I am ok with that. I am sure the pearl jam tickets were over $100 dollars. Just trying to get money out of fans. Probably the majority who went attended both concerts. It's huge money for the artists. Its like when U2 comes to Toronto and plays 5 nights. I am sure Noel could change the set list and play 3 nights in Toronto as well.
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Post by Doc Lobster on May 11, 2017 13:49:22 GMT -5
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Post by rekrelf on May 11, 2017 14:07:44 GMT -5
See, maybe it's just my OCD attitude, but fuck that shit. I think that's more of a fuck you to fans than playing a similar set. Change one or two, maybe, but people can't usually afford to go to two gigs. Play the songs that people want to hear. I'm with Noel on this one. Mix up sets for legs of tours, definitely (which he did on the last one), but fuck changing it every night. Takes the piss. Changing a setlist is a fuck you to the fans? What the ... NOT changing the setlist is a “fuck you“ to fans. Noel is boring as shit. I'm so fucking tired to hear these songs again and again. COME ON LIAM!!!!
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Post by Derrick on May 11, 2017 14:14:24 GMT -5
Of course he doesn't even mention the songs we're all talking about here!
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Post by frjdoasis on May 11, 2017 15:27:23 GMT -5
While the setlist remains the same and it goes on and on and on ...
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 17:18:43 GMT -5
If you don't play the hits you'll alienate people new to the band/artist
If you just play the hits all the time, you'll get less of the 'hardcore' fans going to gigs.
Therefore, go for some sort of middle ground. End of. It doesn't have to be something you really need to take sides on.
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Post by mossy on May 11, 2017 17:45:50 GMT -5
Noel's got such a *huge* back catalogue stuffed with hits and great but lesser known songs, he could easily play two 100% different sets from one night to another and keep both casual and hardcore fans happy.
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Post by frjdoasis on May 11, 2017 17:59:28 GMT -5
Noel's got such a *huge* back catalogue stuffed with hits and great but lesser known songs, he could easily play two 100% different sets from one night to another and keep both casual and hardcore fans happy. He's just a lazy f*cker
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Post by bt95 on May 11, 2017 18:46:59 GMT -5
See, maybe it's just my OCD attitude, but fuck that shit. I think that's more of a fuck you to fans than playing a similar set. Change one or two, maybe, but people can't usually afford to go to two gigs. Play the songs that people want to hear. I'm with Noel on this one. Mix up sets for legs of tours, definitely (which he did on the last one), but fuck changing it every night. Takes the piss. Changing a setlist is a fuck you to the fans? What the ... As in, changing it from night to night. Yeh, I think it's just a bit naff. Change the set throughout a tour, by all means. But I don't think there's much wrong with sticking to the same core of songs.
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Post by rekrelf on May 12, 2017 3:22:03 GMT -5
Noel's got such a *huge* back catalogue stuffed with hits and great but lesser known songs, he could easily play two 100% different sets from one night to another and keep both casual and hardcore fans happy. THIS!!! I love Noel. But I saw him six times live from 20012-2015. On the last tour, I didn't had the chance to go. But to be honest I didn't had the feeling to miss something. If I think about the feeling I had before 10-15 years when Oasis played in Germany, but I just had the money/time to one or two of their 4/5 gigs, I felt like sick these evenings, because I wasn't there. That all changed to me sadly. I'm so tired of this solo shit. I want Oasis back. I want this badass feeling back. I'm not pro Noel or pro Liam. That is just bullshit. But I just really love the music by Oasis and not NGHFB or BE. I' happy for people who really think that Chasing Yesterday is the best record since Be Here Now. But I just don't fall into love with their music since they do this fucking solo shit.
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Post by bt95 on May 12, 2017 4:10:02 GMT -5
Honest... If I was going to a gig - and a mate had gone to a gig a few days previous - then I'd want to experience the same setlist that they did. Just my opinion. I enjoy it when bands switch a few songs around - I'm all for that - but nah, fuck switching it every night. I think that's a bigger fuck you to fans than keeping it similar is. Why would putting more effort in the gigs / rehearsals by radical changing the set list be a 'fuck you' to the fans? And what's so important about seeing the same show as your mate? I don't get that at all. By that logic a band should only play one set list throughout their entire career through fear of annoying fans between tours. I'm not saying that at all. I just prefer that a setlist remains relatively tight throughout a leg of a tour. If you've got a set that flows well then there's no need to change it. The best Oasis set was the 2001 ones - Noise and Confusion Tour. Had a bit of everything but still remained the same throughout that little mini-tour.
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Post by mossy on May 12, 2017 4:15:08 GMT -5
Why would putting more effort in the gigs / rehearsals by radical changing the set list be a 'fuck you' to the fans? And what's so important about seeing the same show as your mate? I don't get that at all. By that logic a band should only play one set list throughout their entire career through fear of annoying fans between tours. I'm not saying that at all. I just prefer that a setlist remains relatively tight throughout a leg of a tour. If you've got a set that flows well then there's no need to change it. The best Oasis set was the 2001 ones - Noise and Confusion Tour. Had a bit of everything but still remained the same throughout that little mini-tour. Bet you have a favourite restaurant and never try new ones. Bet you always order exactly the same meal every time you go too. "The usual sir? Wonderwall?" "Yes please!" "Would sir like to try something a bit spicy on the side? An acoustic D'You Know What I Mean perhaps? On the house of course." "Ooh no, that sounds a bit too adventurous for me! I'll stick to Wonderwall & Don't Look Back In Anger thanks. I don't want to get indigestion."
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Post by Rolo on May 12, 2017 4:37:39 GMT -5
Noel's got such a *huge* back catalogue stuffed with hits and great but lesser known songs, he could easily play two 100% different sets from one night to another and keep both casual and hardcore fans happy. Pretty much this. I'm not going to see Noel again until he properly changes up his setlist, it's quite depressing that the same songs get played over and over again when he's got so many to choose from. Why not just play one different song a night, it keeps the hardcore fans happy as well as the casuals. Introducing one different song to the set wouldn't be much effort at all either. It's just got to the point now where it's really boring.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on May 12, 2017 4:49:02 GMT -5
I get the complaints about the setlist, but I haven't experienced it myself. I saw Noel twice on the last tour and the second time I saw him, he changed 6 or 7 songs.
Could probably change that more often though.
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Post by bt95 on May 12, 2017 6:21:24 GMT -5
I'm not saying that at all. I just prefer that a setlist remains relatively tight throughout a leg of a tour. If you've got a set that flows well then there's no need to change it. The best Oasis set was the 2001 ones - Noise and Confusion Tour. Had a bit of everything but still remained the same throughout that little mini-tour. Bet you have a favourite restaurant and never try new ones. Bet you always order exactly the same meal every time you go too. "The usual sir? Wonderwall?" "Yes please!" "Would sir like to try something a bit spicy on the side? An acoustic D'You Know What I Mean perhaps? On the house of course." "Ooh no, that sounds a bit too adventurous for me! I'll stick to Wonderwall & Don't Look Back In Anger thanks. I don't want to get indigestion." Not particularly, no.
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Post by mossy on May 12, 2017 6:43:49 GMT -5
Bet you have a favourite restaurant and never try new ones. Bet you always order exactly the same meal every time you go too. "The usual sir? Wonderwall?" "Yes please!" "Would sir like to try something a bit spicy on the side? An acoustic D'You Know What I Mean perhaps? On the house of course." "Ooh no, that sounds a bit too adventurous for me! I'll stick to Wonderwall & Don't Look Back In Anger thanks. I don't want to get indigestion." Not particularly, no. I was only taking the piss. Peace.
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Post by oasisserbia on May 12, 2017 6:48:29 GMT -5
99% of people go to see Noel once, when he is in their town. 1% go to see Noel more than once. Those 99% want to hear big hits and don´t care about how many times he played those hits before. They are not bored with them, they are hearing those songs for first time live or maybe they heard them once years ago. And 99% of people go home satisfed.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2017 7:01:28 GMT -5
I feel like many people on here underestimate the challenge and work that goes into playing a gig every night in a new city for the duration of a tour.
Sure, could he drop in the occasional change of pace track for the hardcore fans, of course he could... but can we please move on from this ridiculous conversation about set lists. I feel it has reached the bland level of Blur vs. Oasis debates.
As you were.
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Post by carlober on May 12, 2017 7:08:38 GMT -5
I wrote this in another thread last year and I still think it would be the best solution. And that's what many other bands already do. He usually plays 20-21 songs during standard gigs. He could select, let's say, 15 songs that get played every night and then choose the remaining 5 from a list of other 10-12 well-rehearsed tracks, throwing in some rarities here and there. That would please both point of views I guess: the "core" part of the show is the same every night but each gig is slightly different from the other due to the track rotation.
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Post by mossy on May 12, 2017 8:50:59 GMT -5
I feel like many people on here underestimate the challenge and work that goes into playing a gig every night in a new city for the duration of a tour. Sure, could he drop in the occasional change of pace track for the hardcore fans, of course he could... but can we please move on from this ridiculous conversation about set lists. I feel it has reached the bland level of Blur vs. Oasis debates. As you were. It might be a tad bit challenging but plenty of bands do it. Especially ones with decades long careers with lots of material to draw from. They also play longer sets than him when charging £70 for tickets... Anyway, truth is I gave up on Noel moving on from the rigid setlists long ago and will only see him once per tour from now on. There are plenty of other good young bands out there who I can see instead - Noel doesn't need any more of my cash!
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Post by paperbackwriter on May 12, 2017 12:22:10 GMT -5
ok, the setlist debate again. How come we haven't seen any footage of this yet?!!
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Post by mimmihopps on May 12, 2017 12:25:45 GMT -5
How come we haven't seen any footage of this yet?!! Recording/taking pics by camera/phone were not allowed, so I have heard.
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Post by Derrick on May 12, 2017 12:39:32 GMT -5
Even the Rolling Stones announced that in their new tour they would play a few rarities at each gig to cater for their dedicated fans:
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