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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 20:48:13 GMT -5
What's the deal with it? Supersonic was the best promo for a release of these shows.
Could it be that Whitey and Guigsy are against it, like somebody said in a different thread? Are there problems with the recording? Did Noel wiped the tapes for an unseen video clip of She Is Love? 25th-anniversary? 30?
Did they make a mistake with not releasing it after Supersonic? They could make a pretty good live dvd box from the 90's.
I don't like it when we as fans get milked, but if they do it, do it right. Live shows, vinyl singles box... Don't come with an incomplete reissue with quotes from a 19 year old magazine.
Any good album titles? Fake artworks?
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Mar 16, 2017 21:27:34 GMT -5
2026
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Post by wylliejack on Mar 16, 2017 23:04:48 GMT -5
When oasis sell it out again.
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Post by Gas Panic on Mar 17, 2017 2:16:52 GMT -5
November this year maybe?
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Post by globe on Mar 17, 2017 4:29:26 GMT -5
I bet they were going to release it with Supersonic but when Alan and Guigs refused to have their images shown in the footage, they canned it. I sincerely hope they both change their minds about that one day so it can be released in its full glory
It would be so shit to release it with them both erased from the footage, looked daft as fuck on Supersonic.
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Post by Gas Panic on Mar 17, 2017 4:35:52 GMT -5
I bet they were going to release it with Supersonic but when Alan and Guigs refused to have their images shown in the footage, they canned it. I sincerely hope they both change their minds about that one day so it can be released in its full glory It would be so shit to release it with them both erased from the footage, looked daft as fuck on Supersonic. I've never understood the reasons behind Guigsy and Alan declining to appear in the footage? Why would they not want their one absolute moment of glory on this earth to be made available to the public who are desperate to finally have it. And they would surely stand to make a few quid? It must be one of the most overdue releases in the history of rock music that Knebworth has never seen the light of day. |
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Post by globe on Mar 17, 2017 4:41:28 GMT -5
I bet they were going to release it with Supersonic but when Alan and Guigs refused to have their images shown in the footage, they canned it. I sincerely hope they both change their minds about that one day so it can be released in its full glory It would be so shit to release it with them both erased from the footage, looked daft as fuck on Supersonic. I've never understood the reasons behind Guigsy and Alan declining to appear in the footage? Why would they not want their one absolute moment of glory on this earth to be made available to the public who are desperate to finally have it. And they would surely stand to make a few quid? It must be one of the most overdue releases in the history of rock music that Knebworth has never seen the light of day. I know, doesn't make much sense to me but I'm guessing in Alan's case that he had a quite an acrimonious split from the band and just wants nothing to do with Noel, hopefully one day he'll change his mind. I think Matt Whitecross is on record as saying Guigs was almost at the point where he was going to take part in Supersonic but changed his mind at the very last minute? So again I would be hopeful that one day he'll look back and realise what he was part of what was a huge bit of music history and he'll embrace it rather than want to forget how it ended for him. Might be a royalties thing too - maybe the Oasis machine was refusing to give them any? Who knows. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2017 5:04:33 GMT -5
Ive said it before but not releasing this along with supersonic was a misstep, I personally think its ridiculous that the band talk about knebworth like the holy grail of their career yet its not even released, they end the doc with the apparent idea that you can now go and watch the gig but you cant.
I understand they had the BHN reissue and the doc coming out so probably didnt want to put out yet another thing in 2016 but it was probably the best opportunity to put it out.
had they not taken so long to put BHN out then they couldve easily released a live album / DVD of knebworth instead.
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Post by idleroses on Mar 17, 2017 5:19:30 GMT -5
I'd much rather an anthology/boxset of any unheard demos and alt versions that lie in the vaults over a pretty average 1996 Oasis performance. I'd even rather a full release of the Earls Court shows as they are far superior performances.
I know some fans see Knebworth as the most important event in human history but it wasn't and there are undoubtedly more interesting things sitting in Noel's vault I want to see released.
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Post by globe on Mar 17, 2017 5:52:05 GMT -5
I'd much rather an anthology/boxset of any unheard demos and alt versions that lie in the vaults over a pretty average 1996 Oasis performance. I'd even rather a full release of the Earls Court shows as they are far superior performances. I know some fans see Knebworth as the most important event in human history but it wasn't and there are undoubtedly more interesting things sitting in Noel's vault I want to see released. I wouldn't say of was the most important event in human history, but it was the end of two years of a special time in music in this country. It would be a great thing to have in the collection especially with the documentary they filmed alongside the gigs - that would be a great moment in time to look back on. For me anyway. |
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Post by idleroses on Mar 17, 2017 6:11:33 GMT -5
I'd much rather an anthology/boxset of any unheard demos and alt versions that lie in the vaults over a pretty average 1996 Oasis performance. I'd even rather a full release of the Earls Court shows as they are far superior performances. I know some fans see Knebworth as the most important event in human history but it wasn't and there are undoubtedly more interesting things sitting in Noel's vault I want to see released. I wouldn't say of was the most important event in human history, but it was the end of two years of a special time in music in this country. It would be a great thing to have in the collection especially with the documentary they filmed alongside the gigs - that would be a great moment in time to look back on. For me anyway. A reason I see this not being released is due to the massive sales of Robbie Williams Live At Knebworth album. According to wiki it is the second fastest and biggest selling live album ever in the United Kingdom and if Oasis released a CD version at this stage the odds are that it wouldn't come near what Williams has sold. They can just release it on blu ray and leave it at that but personally speaking I prefer my music even live albums in the CD format so if it was to be released I'd prefer it as a double cd just to add to the collection, I'd even buy the blu ray and watch it once before storing it away. I just have a feeling it won't be released due to Robbie Williams playing to more people at Knebworth and having a huge selling live album on the back of it. It must kill Liam & Noel that Williams pulled it off but he managed to do it. (don't shoot the messenger!!) |
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Post by Gas Panic on Mar 17, 2017 6:52:45 GMT -5
I wouldn't say of was the most important event in human history, but it was the end of two years of a special time in music in this country. It would be a great thing to have in the collection especially with the documentary they filmed alongside the gigs - that would be a great moment in time to look back on. For me anyway. A reason I see this not being released is due to the massive sales of Robbie Williams Live At Knebworth album. According to wiki it is the second fastest and biggest selling live album ever in the United Kingdom and if Oasis released a CD version at this stage the odds are that it wouldn't come near what Williams has sold. They can just release it on blu ray and leave it at that but personally speaking I prefer my music even live albums in the CD format so if it was to be released I'd prefer it as a double cd just to add to the collection, I'd even buy the blu ray and watch it once before storing it away. I just have a feeling it won't be released due to Robbie Williams playing to more people at Knebworth and having a huge selling live album on the back of it. It must kill Liam & Noel that Williams pulled it off but he managed to do it. (don't shoot the messenger!!) I don't think so. I don't think anyone including team oasis think that an Oasis at Knebworth CD/DVD would be a mega seller. The point is it should be out there for the public to buy because of its significance to the history of British music. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2017 7:36:08 GMT -5
A reason I see this not being released is due to the massive sales of Robbie Williams Live At Knebworth album. According to wiki it is the second fastest and biggest selling live album ever in the United Kingdom and if Oasis released a CD version at this stage the odds are that it wouldn't come near what Williams has sold. They can just release it on blu ray and leave it at that but personally speaking I prefer my music even live albums in the CD format so if it was to be released I'd prefer it as a double cd just to add to the collection, I'd even buy the blu ray and watch it once before storing it away. I just have a feeling it won't be released due to Robbie Williams playing to more people at Knebworth and having a huge selling live album on the back of it. It must kill Liam & Noel that Williams pulled it off but he managed to do it. (don't shoot the messenger!!) I don't think so. I don't think anyone including team oasis think that an Oasis at Knebworth CD/DVD would be a mega seller. The point is it should be out there for the public to buy because of its significance to the history of British music. They even could make a big box out of it: 2 DVD - both shows 4 CD - both shows 3 LP - one show Programme book replica T-shirt replica Ticket replica Picks Book with pictures |
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Post by Gas Panic on Mar 17, 2017 7:44:01 GMT -5
I don't think so. I don't think anyone including team oasis think that an Oasis at Knebworth CD/DVD would be a mega seller. The point is it should be out there for the public to buy because of its significance to the history of British music. They even could make a big box out of it: 2 DVD - both shows 4 CD - both shows 3 LP - one show Programme book replica T-shirt replica Ticket replica Picks Book with pictures The backstage footage would be the biggest draw for me. |
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Post by idleroses on Mar 17, 2017 7:51:03 GMT -5
I don't think so. I don't think anyone including team oasis think that an Oasis at Knebworth CD/DVD would be a mega seller. The point is it should be out there for the public to buy because of its significance to the history of British music. They even could make a big box out of it: 2 DVD - both shows 4 CD - both shows 3 LP - one show Programme book replica T-shirt replica Ticket replica Picks Book with pictures All that for what were essentially two sub par performances by Oasis very high 90's standards? If we were to get 2 dvds, 4 cds and 3 lps of 1990's Oasis I'd rather it focused on performances that showed them at their absolute untouchable best. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2017 8:31:57 GMT -5
They even could make a big box out of it: 2 DVD - both shows 4 CD - both shows 3 LP - one show Programme book replica T-shirt replica Ticket replica Picks Book with pictures All that for what were essentially two sub par performances by Oasis very high 90's standards? If we were to get 2 dvds, 4 cds and 3 lps of 1990's Oasis I'd rather it focused on performances that showed them at their absolute untouchable best. They probably weren't their best, but they meant the most to Oasis and those shows were unique. I wonder which shows were all properly filmed for a release. We know: Earls Court, The Point, Maine Road, Loch Lomond, Knebworth and MTV Unplugged. Some say Cardiff 1996 or Sheffield 1995/97 was their absolute best, but if there weren't any camera inside that venue there isn't much to put on a dvd. I don't think all those great gigs will be released on physical format, but I can imagine that there will be some bootleg release via Oasisinet for little money. How come Guigsy and Alan White are in the Champagne Supernova video that came with the deluxe edition of Stop the Clocks? And what about the live video of Acquiesce? |
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Post by mossy on Mar 17, 2017 9:20:38 GMT -5
Has anyone got any screen grabs from Supersonic where people's faces are masked out?
Only saw it once at the cinema and didn't notice it at all!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2017 10:11:36 GMT -5
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Post by mossy on Mar 17, 2017 10:23:19 GMT -5
Has anyone got any screen grabs from Supersonic where people's faces are masked out? Only saw it once at the cinema and didn't notice it at all! ![]()     So weird!! |
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Post by dontlookback82 on Mar 17, 2017 15:57:28 GMT -5
Why would they want their images removed? They are in throughout the film when not on stage, so what difference does it make whether they were playing instruments or sitting on a sofa?
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Post by matt on Mar 17, 2017 16:27:07 GMT -5
As much as Knebworth is talked about and as much as it would be nice to have it on DVD, I don't think it is THE iconic Oasis gig.
It's by far the biggest, but the real iconography is them playing Maine Road. The symbolism is powerful - lads from a northern working class estate, playing to tens of thousands of people, many of whom are from the exact same social background as the band. The people on stage are from the crowd, and any of the crowd could believe they could be on that stage with them. Take into context the environment of where they were playing too - a rickety old football stadium that is home to an unglamorous football team set against a background of Victorian terraced housing just adds to that homespun authenticity. If L.S. Lowry was alive then, that's the image he would have painted of 1990s Manchester. A display of working class solidarity that seemed so deeply embedded in the north of England's communal way of living. That's also why Oasis are so important in Britain; it's not just the great songs, it's the fact they were part of the social fabric. Maybe that's why so many faceless middle/upper class ponces don't get them because it derives from a culture that is completely alien to them, or certainly a culture which they sneer at.
Maine Road, to many of the folk that attended, is the stuff that dreams are made of. And I haven't even talked about how great their performances were over those two nights. They are the greatest music gigs to have ever taken place in Britain.
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Post by globe on Mar 17, 2017 17:06:03 GMT -5
Why would they want their images removed? They are in throughout the film when not on stage, so what difference does it make whether they were playing instruments or seating on a sofa? I know, it's daft. I believe the rules are that if you filmed somebody walking down the street then you don't need their permission to use that footage, but if you film a musician performing then they have to give their permission for you to use it. |
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Post by spud on Mar 17, 2017 18:05:26 GMT -5
Haha fucking hell I had no idea Alan and Guigsy had asked not to appear in it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2017 19:41:17 GMT -5
Maine Road 1st and 2nd night are the best Oasis gigs, ever. The 2nd night in particular, is iconic (best live versions of Cast No Shadow, ever).
Earl's Court 1995 is not far behind at all, with the electric "Whatever", the monstruous performances of "Hello" and "Supersonic", the acoustic "Morning Glory" and the end on "I Am The Walrus". And Liam is at his peak !
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2017 20:21:06 GMT -5
Maine Road 1st and 2nd night are the best Oasis gigs, ever. The 2nd night in particular, is iconic (best live versions of Cast No Shadow, ever). Earl's Court 1995 is not far behind at all, with the electric "Whatever", the monstruous performances of "Hello" and "Supersonic", the acoustic "Morning Glory" and the end on "I Am The Walrus". And Liam is at his peak ! I think the first night at Maine Road is their best gig ever. I really don't understand why they didn't used that on There and Then. There is something I don't like about the Earls Court gigs, probably the stage or the (purple) lighting, it doesn't look professional. And give me the full band versions of Whatever, Wonderwall, Cast No Shadow and Morning Glory above the Noel sung acoustic versions any day. |
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