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Post by mossy on Mar 2, 2017 4:05:22 GMT -5
It's iconic because of the music inside it. This is a catch 22 argument. Essentially, you're spinning yourself in circles. You could honeslty argue that no album cover would be iconic without the music inside of it. But Dark Side of the Moon would be a great album cover whether it sold 1 copy or 2 million. I can think of a few examples where the album cover is pretty iconic even if the music within is average or poor. Sticking with Pink Floyd, Animals is not one of their best - a man on the street would struggle to name a single track - but the Battersea Power Station and floating pig are iconic.
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Post by Bellboy on Mar 2, 2017 4:24:24 GMT -5
By Sergio I assume he means Aguero and therefore he's probably talking about his transfer rumours. The cover might be real, after all. Sigh. you lot really arent the brightest bunch are you? fucking hell. "FAKE NEWS, But nothing fake about the SERGIO" (because Sergio Aguero had just scored against huddersfield) That's literally all he meant. I agree. Suggesting Liam is responding to this forum is clutching at straws. He mainly tweets about City, especially on a match day. Plus no other news outlets has this "leak" Whether this news is real or not I'm sure LG is happy we are all talking about it in anticipation..rather than not! We will get something official soon. All in good time.
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Post by headshrinker84 on Mar 2, 2017 4:57:18 GMT -5
Hopefully the cover won't matter and the music is worthwhile. Seems around here most people are not to excited because they think it'll be same old same old. Will say I'm more stoked for this then Noel's new album. Maybes that's cause Chasing Yesterday was disappointing in my eyes and BE was more successful follow up to Beady Eye debut. Where CY was a downgrade from NGHFB album. Nah CY was better than NGHFB. Much better production and more varied songs as well.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Mar 2, 2017 4:58:56 GMT -5
you lot really arent the brightest bunch are you? fucking hell. "FAKE NEWS, But nothing fake about the SERGIO" (because Sergio Aguero had just scored against huddersfield) That's literally all he meant. I agree. Suggesting Liam is responding to this forum is clutching at straws. He mainly tweets about City, especially on a match day. Plus no other news outlets has this "leak" Whether this news is real or not I'm sure LG is happy we are all talking about it in anticipation..rather than not! We will get something official soon. All in good time. They were two distinct tweets. There were also people tweeting him about it so I'd imagine he was aware of it.
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Post by The Escapist on Mar 2, 2017 5:22:24 GMT -5
Ranking the artwork:
GREAT 1. Be Here Now 2. Definitely Maybe 3. Dig Out Your Soul 4. BE
GOOD 5. Standing on the Shoulders of Giants
OK 6. (What's the Story) Morning Glory? 7. Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds 8. Chasing Yesterday 9. Different Gear, Still Speeding
SHIT 10. Heathen Chemistry 11. Don't Believe the Truth
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Post by andymorris on Mar 2, 2017 5:24:33 GMT -5
Hopefully the cover won't matter and the music is worthwhile. Seems around here most people are not to excited because they think it'll be same old same old. Will say I'm more stoked for this then Noel's new album. Maybes that's cause Chasing Yesterday was disappointing in my eyes and BE was more successful follow up to Beady Eye debut. Where CY was a downgrade from NGHFB album. Nah CY was better than NGHFB. Much better production and more varied songs as well. The production is not that bad on the first record. Sure, Record Machine and Stop the Clocks are destroyed, but for the rest, especially Dream On, Death, Stranded on the Wrong Beach or AKA... Broken Arrow... all good production. The difference to me is the songwriting level. CS is clearly behind NGHFB in terms of melody.
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Post by scorpiosonic on Mar 2, 2017 6:01:46 GMT -5
For the record, Liam may not check live4ever but he does know what goes on SCYHOnews - I'd imagine his Fake News tweet was spurred on being told about that article, came out on the same day after all. Then he just tied it into Man City because his mind just naturally reverts to City, seemingly.
That's my two takes on it. All I want is a great single and him to have a cool haircut. Come on Liam.
*Two takes? I meant my take / my two cents
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Post by scorpiosonic on Mar 2, 2017 6:04:21 GMT -5
And P.S. Heathen Chemistry is legendary. It may have the worst second half of an album exclusion DOYS, but the first half illuminates. Hindu times, Little by Little and SCYHO are legitimately songs that help to define Oasis at their best.
*Oh the above post is about artwork. Yes, Heathen Chemistry sucks, but at-least they're in it. There were so many cool posters, I remember seeing them posted around the subways in Paris. Why they picked that piece of shit is a question that can be put to Noel, as can the question of 'she is love".
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Post by Greedy's Mighty Sigh on Mar 2, 2017 6:39:35 GMT -5
It seems easy to grasp that tweet number 1 was to debunk the album 'leak' and tweet 2 was to say that Aguero is the real deal.
The bloke was probably horrified when he saw that cover .
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Post by dadrocker on Mar 2, 2017 7:25:26 GMT -5
I dig the cover. I'm not expecting much from the album still but I think this is a good start. May I ask why? Seems a bit silly to purposely have low expectations. I'm not a big fan of Liam-written tunes to be honest. Also I'm not a big co-writing fan so that seems to be what this album will be so hence my expectations are low. But I'm open to listening to it for sure.
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Post by themightyeye on Mar 2, 2017 7:41:18 GMT -5
March 10th is a Friday. Typically not a good day to release anything on social media including news
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Post by tomlivesforever on Mar 2, 2017 7:48:44 GMT -5
May I ask why? Seems a bit silly to purposely have low expectations. I'm not a big fan of Liam-written tunes to be honest. Also I'm not a big co-writing fan so that seems to be what this album will be so hence my expectations are low. But I'm open to listening to it for sure. I think Liam has already implied the songs are written by him.
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Post by themightyeye on Mar 2, 2017 9:04:54 GMT -5
Oh boy, oh boy! can you tell us anything, dennizz? not really, just asked my ex co workers at a big dutch radio station if they knew anything. One of the said a one track promo is promised next week and the other said they usualy play a new single/promo on friday For the love of God I hope it's not a "Meaning of Soul" type fast chugger that has no effect on the outside world other than us fans.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Mar 2, 2017 9:21:18 GMT -5
not really, just asked my ex co workers at a big dutch radio station if they knew anything. One of the said a one track promo is promised next week and the other said they usualy play a new single/promo on friday For the love of God I hope it's not a "Meaning of Soul" type fast chugger that has no effect on the outside world other than us fans. I doubt off an album with 11 tracks they will pick the one that sounds the most like "The Meaning of Soul" for the first single.
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Post by themightyeye on Mar 2, 2017 9:24:20 GMT -5
For the love of God I hope it's not a "Meaning of Soul" type fast chugger that has no effect on the outside world other than us fans. I doubt off an album with 11 tracks they will pick the one that sounds the most like "The Meaning of Soul" for the first single. Agreed but nothing surprises me with "Team Oasis/Noel/Liam For me personally this is the one band that since "don't believe the truth" have no idea how to pick singles including NGHFB
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Post by Thomas on Mar 2, 2017 9:41:31 GMT -5
I doubt off an album with 11 tracks they will pick the one that sounds the most like "The Meaning of Soul" for the first single. Agreed but nothing surprises me with "Team Oasis/Noel/Liam For me personally this is the one band that since "don't believe the truth" have no idea how to pick singles including NGHFB They picked Shakermaker as a single. Back in 1994. Slide Away, Listen Up and many others available. Shakermaker!!!
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Post by themightyeye on Mar 2, 2017 9:42:40 GMT -5
Agreed but nothing surprises me with "Team Oasis/Noel/Liam For me personally this is the one band that since "don't believe the truth" have no idea how to pick singles including NGHFB They picked Shakermaker as a single. Back in 1994. Slide Away, Listen Up and many others from available. Shakermaker!!! Lol valid
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Post by britpopunionoasis on Mar 2, 2017 9:56:05 GMT -5
Nah CY was better than NGHFB. Much better production and more varied songs as well. The production is not that bad on the first record. Sure, Record Machine and Stop the Clocks are destroyed, but for the rest, especially Dream On, Death, Stranded on the Wrong Beach or AKA... Broken Arrow... all good production. The difference to me is the songwriting level. CS is clearly behind NGHFB in terms of melody. I'm with this guy here on melody. I just find Chasing Yesterday to be a big let down. I never listen to it probably like 4 songs and even those leaves something lacking. "Riverman" (great but lost its charm now), "In The Heat Of The Moment" (One of his best singles, great work out music Lyric wise, and has some Funny Blur Charmless Man Na Na Na's) The Right Stuff (Most interesting) and "You Know We Can't Go Back" (Classic Oasis sounds like I Hope I Think I Know but better). Then to me there the trilogy of constant meh tracks back to back - The Girl With X Ray Eyes (Boring Bowie), Lock All The Doors (Needs Liam but still seems pretty safe) and "The Dying Of The Light"(Loved the soundcheck and like the choice of piano on studio version, but nothing makes me want to come back to it. As for the rest "While The Song Remains The Same" (Needs to Lose the U2 intro but its decent) The Mexican (I actually like so probably put it up with the other four), and finally "Ballad of The Might I" (Just really doesn't do much for me, again its ok but I never listen to it). This album just always felt like a bunch of tracks he just stuck together. NGHFB had at least a feel. This just feels like 2000-2005 era B-sides. Always the vibe I got. Anyways hopefully this post doesn't get moved from the Liam Gallagher section lol.
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Post by andymorris on Mar 2, 2017 10:13:36 GMT -5
agreed britpopunionoasis, CS is a collection of good bsides, whereas NGHFB had strong singles and good album tracks. After 25 years, i guess we can forgive Noel for having a bit of down moment in songwriting though, if the next one is good
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Post by britpopunionoasis on Mar 2, 2017 10:56:51 GMT -5
agreed britpopunionoasis , CS is a collection of good bsides, whereas NGHFB had strong singles and good album tracks. After 25 years, i guess we can forgive Noel for having a bit of down moment in songwriting though, if the next one is good I'll admit when my favorite artist is crap. Wish he put out Amorphous Androgynous album. I'll rank all their albums later but I did want to tell everyone on the forum that I do a Campus Radio Show called "Hipsters Hate Us" I play a wide range of music from Alt Rock, Britpop, Hip-Hop, Psychedelic, and and Electronic. I try to keep part of my selection newer. I'm on tonight (every Thursday)from 6-7 East Atlantic Time on www.localfm.ca . However just to give you guys a taste I'm going to put my Britpop show in this comment. Some of the tracks aren't Britpop but that's because I work at Canadian Station and we have to play 35% Canadian Content. Anyways here's that link www.mixcloud.com/vailvailbinks/hipsters-hate-us-ep-15/ and maybe you guys can tune in tonight. Also when ever anyone has leaked new Liam material send it my way so I can promote it on the show. Anyways last off topic post.
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Post by GlastoEls on Mar 2, 2017 11:01:42 GMT -5
I love CY; my favourite Gallagher album since SOTSOG.
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Post by webm@ster on Mar 2, 2017 11:03:28 GMT -5
For the record, Liam may not check live4ever but he does know what goes on SCYHOnews - I'd imagine his Fake News tweet was spurred on being told about that article, came out on the same day after all. Then he just tied it into Man City because his mind just naturally reverts to City, seemingly. That's my two takes on it. All I want is a great single and him to have a cool haircut. Come on Liam. *Two takes? I meant my take / my two cents Liam sat down with us after Oasis broke up for his first US interview (also spoke to MTV, Matt Pinnfield and BlackBook Mag) So yes, he does pay attention to us (the media outlet) . Live4ever Media is also an official google news site so a headline like that makes the rounds easily. I would just like to remind everyone that we ran the article with a large amount of caution regarding the source and content. We are not fans of click bait headlines. cheers
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Post by tomlivesforever on Mar 2, 2017 11:08:58 GMT -5
For the record, Liam may not check live4ever but he does know what goes on SCYHOnews - I'd imagine his Fake News tweet was spurred on being told about that article, came out on the same day after all. Then he just tied it into Man City because his mind just naturally reverts to City, seemingly. That's my two takes on it. All I want is a great single and him to have a cool haircut. Come on Liam. *Two takes? I meant my take / my two cents Liam sat down with us after Oasis broke up for his first US interview (also spoke to MTV, Matt Pinnfield and BlackBook Mag) So yes, he does pay attention to us (the media outlet) . Live4ever Media is also an official google news site so a headline like that makes the rounds easily. I would just like to remind everyone that we ran the article with a large amount of caution regarding the source and content. We are not fans of click bait headlines. cheers I don't think anyone here thinks that because you never do that sort of thing as far as I've seen. I think everyone knows it was published in good faith.
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Post by britpopunionoasis on Mar 2, 2017 11:24:00 GMT -5
I love CY; my favourite Gallagher album since SOTSOG. Here is my order as best I can of Oasis, Beady Eye and Noel. I'm going to put Oasis Material in one order and lump the Beady Eye and Noel in different order. Here goes nothing 1) Definitely Maybe (Classic) 2) What's The Story(Morning Glory) (Classic but don't listen to as much) 3) Dig Out Your Soul (My real #2 bought it when it first came out. Yeah it sounds a bit tired in places but its also really rocking and truly Oasis great balance Beady Eye and Birds have yet to replicate it) 4) Don't Believe The Truth/ Be Here Now (This one flips flops. Truth is there best sounding album. It's an albums album. Great flow but not outstanding songs overall, Best album Vinyl wise. Be Here Now is all about the story surrounding it and what it means to Oasis fans. It doesn't hold up overall but I have the soft spot for it) 5) SOTSOG (This is the album I would compare Chasing Yesterday too. I also prefer this to Chasing Yesterday. Not their best album but has a feeling to it) 6) Heathen Chemistry (Has the singles and some albums tracks I love "Force Of Nature",Born On Different Cloud", "Better Man". But also tracks I hate like (Probably) All In The Mind and Quick Peep. Problem with this is a probably like the songs on this better than SOTSOG but production and lack of connection makes it lose out. Just seems like Oasis trying to be Oasis. Both Heathen Chemistry and SOTSOG had this problem. Two shitty tracks back to back. The Mentioned above for HC and Put Your Money Where Your Mouth is and Little James for the latter. Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds and Beady Eye have been consistent 1)Noel Gallaghers High Flying Birds - (Great overall sound and songs. Except the Oasis left overs. The Death Of You and Me is best song for me. Great memories. 2) Beady Eye - BE (Kind of middle of the road but I don't care. They seem they're putting their all and best they can do. The Production is amazing and each member writes good material. I Like Liam songs that have that "Guess God Thinks I'm Abel" sound and these fit that mold on his slower numbers. Not great but isn't as bad as people say) 3) Chasing Yesterday (Meh) 4) Different Gear Still Speeding (At its best Four Letter Word and Morning Son. At its worst Bring The Light. Worst Oasis related project but its bad in a goofy way)
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Post by matt on Mar 2, 2017 11:26:00 GMT -5
What? The first High Flying Birds album sounds absolutely dreadful. Probably the worst produced album I've ever heard.
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