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Post by arthurmorgan on Feb 7, 2017 12:16:51 GMT -5
I'm confused. Why is everybody so sure that this was all fake?
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Post by wozdareden on Feb 7, 2017 12:17:49 GMT -5
This thread needs to go where it belongs...
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Post by matt on Feb 7, 2017 12:18:09 GMT -5
Fair enough. I think I made one post about the possibility of Bastard's report being true, so I basically took a wait and see. But I don't think most took a wait and see approach as Tom is saying. Well I thought the information was interesting but for anyone who has been on a forum for any length of time you consider the other possibilities having seen it all happen before. Maybe I'm making an assumption that many forum members while typing there excitement also realised it was it was not a done deal without confirmation. I tend to think we're quite a clever bunch here. Yep, that's all I did. Yet apparently that's being 'hysterical'.
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Post by spaneli on Feb 7, 2017 12:18:33 GMT -5
I'm confused. Why is everybody so sure that this was all fake? Liam called out sources to essentially be fake on twitter, and those sources were essentially quoting Bastard word for word, which by proxy, makes Bastards claims' fake.
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Post by Manualex on Feb 7, 2017 12:21:55 GMT -5
Where's the riddler when you need him/her/it? theoricum For visibility
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2017 12:21:59 GMT -5
all I can say is from here on out, people should expect to see evidence at the door, if your legit, you can produce SOMETHING however small.
dont simply believe something because you want it to be true, as soon as the excuses come out its time to say "post when you can prove" if your under such restriction then your probably not legit because you shouldnt be posting anything about it in that case.
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Feb 7, 2017 12:22:08 GMT -5
HAS NOBODY NOTICED THAT THE RIDDLER JUST POSTED?!
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 7, 2017 12:24:47 GMT -5
I'm confused. Why is everybody so sure that this was all fake? Its mainly to do with the passing of time, no further posts from Bastard which is concerning in itself regarding his authenticity. I'm not sure if there is anything that currently goes directly against what he said (although there was a comment on the tracklisting that someone else posted that I thought was suspicious about) but in terms of timetable of release etc, it will become obvious soon. There are only two reasonable explanations. That he hasn't been able to say anything or that it was rubbish. The more time that passes, the more the second of those seems more likely.
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Post by godgimmesoul on Feb 7, 2017 12:24:57 GMT -5
All I've said throughout this is lets wait and see what happens, I've said I understand peoples frustrations but at the time there was no proof to dismiss what Bastard had told us and I personally thought the best way to act was to just let time pass and find out if there was any truth to it rather than jump on his back straight away. Rolo, I see that you are genuinely a very decent bloke. And possibly the biggest Liam fan on this forum. But to say there was no proof to dismiss what Bastard had told us, as opposed in fact to there being not a single shred of evidence, via a few updated posts (coming from an anonymous poster on an Internet forum), actually defies belief. What you're basically saying is the equivalent of labelling someone Guilty until proven Innocent. Naivety central.
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Post by draper on Feb 7, 2017 12:25:34 GMT -5
Well I got carried away by the anticipation of BHN tracks etc too. Oh well, he's gonna release an album anyhow.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 7, 2017 12:27:26 GMT -5
Well I thought the information was interesting but for anyone who has been on a forum for any length of time you consider the other possibilities having seen it all happen before. Maybe I'm making an assumption that many forum members while typing there excitement also realised it was it was not a done deal without confirmation. I tend to think we're quite a clever bunch here. Yep, that's all I did. Yet apparently that's being 'hysterical'. Yeah but you can still give it a little while before being hysterical matt. I know you struggle to hold it back a lot of the time.
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Post by matt on Feb 7, 2017 12:29:28 GMT -5
Yep, that's all I did. Yet apparently that's being 'hysterical'. Yeah but you can still give it a little while before being hysterical matt. I know you struggle to hold it back a lot of the time. Questioning quite legitimate concerns is *shock horror* not hysterics. Insulting people (from both sides) is. Calling people to shut up and wind their necks most definitely is. It works both ways tom, sad to say.
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Post by oasisserbia on Feb 7, 2017 12:29:37 GMT -5
I'm confused. Why is everybody so sure that this was all fake? Liam called out sources to essentially be fake on twitter, and those sources were essentially quoting Bastard word for word, which by proxy, makes Bastards claims' fake. Plus Bastard wrote that people from NME, Q...was there too. There was no need for them to wait for some sources to write article if they were there. It was clear before Liam's tweets.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 7, 2017 12:31:23 GMT -5
All I've said throughout this is lets wait and see what happens, I've said I understand peoples frustrations but at the time there was no proof to dismiss what Bastard had told us and I personally thought the best way to act was to just let time pass and find out if there was any truth to it rather than jump on his back straight away. Rolo, I see that you are genuinely a very decent bloke. And possibly the biggest Liam fan on this forum. But to say there was no proof to dismiss what Bastard had told us, as opposed in fact to there being not a single shred of evidence, via a few updated posts (coming from an anonymous poster on an Internet forum), actually defies belief. What you're basically saying is the equivalent of labelling someone Guilty until proven Innocent. Naivety central. In Rolo's defence he had discussed his concerns about it with me some time ago. Writing in excitement and hope doesn't necessarily mean you believe something 100%.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2017 12:32:44 GMT -5
as Ive said, the interview was his own sit down with Liam yet weve seen NOTHING, not even a crap picture of him sitting in the pub with Liam, there is 0 legitimacy to this, anyone who still thinks he might be still be "not allowed to post" is delusional.
the guy got found out, he legged it, end of, he shouldve quit after the interview but to go from one interview to being Liams right hand man is pushing the boundaries and the boundaries broke.
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Post by hasseg on Feb 7, 2017 12:33:01 GMT -5
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Post by Jgrp on Feb 7, 2017 12:35:51 GMT -5
as Ive said, the interview was his own sit down with Liam yet weve seen NOTHING, not even a crap picture of him sitting in the pub with Liam, there is 0 legitimacy to this, anyone who still thinks he might be still be "not allowed to post" is delusional. the guy got found out, he legged it, end of, he shouldve quit after the interview but to go from one interview to being Liams right hand man is pushing the boundaries and the boundaries broke. He's probably still posting away under another name. Perhaps a regular one!? We'll probs never know. Bloody internet
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Post by Rolo on Feb 7, 2017 12:38:08 GMT -5
All I've said throughout this is lets wait and see what happens, I've said I understand peoples frustrations but at the time there was no proof to dismiss what Bastard had told us and I personally thought the best way to act was to just let time pass and find out if there was any truth to it rather than jump on his back straight away. Rolo, I see that you are genuinely a very decent bloke. And possibly the biggest Liam fan on this forum. But to say there was no proof to dismiss what Bastard had told us, as opposed in fact to there being not a single shred of evidence, via a few updated posts (coming from an anonymous poster on an Internet forum), actually defies belief. What you're basically saying is the equivalent of labelling someone Guilty until proven Innocent. Naivety central. I completely get where you're coming from and I also think some proof should of been given whether that was a picture or something else, I understand that. What I didn't agree with was people completely dismissing it right away. You have to remember before this whole rehearsal thing people were lapping it up and I'd say 95% of people were on board with what he was telling us. Don't get me wrong I was very skeptical myself but decided to just play the waiting game and see how it all planned out rather than start accusing him of lying at the first chance. I don't see anything wrong with that.
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Post by matt on Feb 7, 2017 12:38:21 GMT -5
If you're called a 'nazi' from some idiots then she has every right to not get involved with some members.
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Post by godgimmesoul on Feb 7, 2017 12:40:48 GMT -5
Rolo, I see that you are genuinely a very decent bloke. And possibly the biggest Liam fan on this forum. But to say there was no proof to dismiss what Bastard had told us, as opposed in fact to there being not a single shred of evidence, via a few updated posts (coming from an anonymous poster on an Internet forum), actually defies belief. What you're basically saying is the equivalent of labelling someone Guilty until proven Innocent. Naivety central. I completely get where you're coming from and I also think some proof should of been given whether that was a picture or something else, I understand that. What I didn't agree with was people completely dismissing it right away. You have to remember before this whole rehearsal thing people were lapping it up and I'd say 95% of people were on board with what he was telling us. Don't get me wrong I was very skeptical myself but decided to just play the waiting game and see how it all planned out rather than start accusing him of lying at the first chance. I don't see anything wrong with that. Sounds fair enough mate.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 7, 2017 12:41:32 GMT -5
Time passes slowly and fades away!
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Post by aky on Feb 7, 2017 12:43:15 GMT -5
this is what happens when oasis fans have far too much time on their hands...most oasis fans are very similar to the eminem fans, where they become majorly obsessed with the artist, completely deluded and at times downright embarrassing. At least Oasis fans dont kill their pregnant girlfriends and send a tape to the man himself. 😂 but... neither do eminem fans. id say its more likely for an oasis fan to be doing that kinda shit
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Post by oasisserbia on Feb 7, 2017 12:44:05 GMT -5
To be fair, they were only saying to people to be patient. I don't remember Mimmi saying that Bastard was telling the truth 100%. And it was only normal thing to do after last Bastard's post. There was no need to be overexcited or to be so suspicious. Nobody could tell if he was lying or telling the truth and to be 100% sure. The only thing that we could do is to wait. They gave him a chance and I still think it was right thing to do.
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Post by Rolo on Feb 7, 2017 12:44:06 GMT -5
Could there be a chance that coincidentally Liam is just writing about what sauces he enjoys?
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Post by oasisserbia on Feb 7, 2017 12:46:02 GMT -5
If you're called a 'nazi' from some idiots then she has every right to not get involved with some members. She was compared to Trump. I don't think that anybody used that word(nazi).
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