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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2017 14:16:06 GMT -5
I'd be amazed if we don't get at least a small UK tour in May for this very reason. If this is the case we can expect an announcement for UK gigs within the next few weeks at the latest, and there would be no better time to launch the website and announce the album than then! Well at least Liam Gallagher can sit back today and know there is no chance in hell his first single is as bad as Kasabians.
So he's already off to a good start. well Liam is probably one of the only people who could snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. probably end up releasing something like the "quiet ones" now with DGSS production and a john lennon quote shoved on the end that you cant hear properly.
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Post by draper on Mar 18, 2017 4:23:58 GMT -5
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Post by Gas Panic on Mar 18, 2017 4:37:44 GMT -5
Has anyone else noticed how you can sing Bold when you play The Masterplan?
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Post by freddy838 on Mar 18, 2017 5:02:28 GMT -5
I'd vote WAL as the most overrated Noel Song in his songwriting history and would probably top the list of my least favorites by him. Definitely makes my top 5 worst Noel songs I agree with you, however the mainstream people ate(thanks to the ad) it and made it one of the biggest releases of post BHN for a Gallagher. That's something Liam and Co. never tried license music for ads, movies, series or even videogames(fifa and Lyla come to mind). They did let For Anyone be theme tune for some dreadful BBC comedy which went down like a fart in a lift. I think Beady Eye and particularly Liam's problem was that they weren't content to just be a cult indie band. A few decent tunes but a rocking live show. Liam has to come back with a banging first song to have any chance of this not turning into a bit of a humiliation.
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Post by draper on Mar 18, 2017 5:18:31 GMT -5
Has anyone else noticed how you can sing Bold when you play The Masterplan? Yeah I was thinking the same playing it
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 7:33:16 GMT -5
I agree with you, however the mainstream people ate(thanks to the ad) it and made it one of the biggest releases of post BHN for a Gallagher. That's something Liam and Co. never tried license music for ads, movies, series or even videogames(fifa and Lyla come to mind). They did let For Anyone be theme tune for some dreadful BBC comedy which went down like a fart in a lift. I think Beady Eye and particularly Liam's problem was that they weren't content to just be a cult indie band. A few decent tunes but a rocking live show. Liam has to come back with a banging first song to have any chance of this not turning into a bit of a humiliation. Liam didn't say now 'I will be the best solo artist in the world again'. He is doing the same thing as Noel said in 2010/2011. 'Just making a record and see what will happen.'
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Post by themightyeye on Mar 18, 2017 8:23:17 GMT -5
BE had no chance cuz the songs weren't good enough and they chose the wrong singles.
IZ RITE should have been the first or second single because it's radio friendly more than any other song and had the ability to connect with random commercial radio fans....
As for both albums they had better b-sides. Again classic case of poor selections. In a bubble was definitely album worthy not sure what the fuck happened there. World outside my room..Off at the next exit..The list goes on and on...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 8:36:08 GMT -5
iz rite is pretty awful imo, they shouldve chosen a song like soul love as the teaser then went out the gate with the first single with flick of the finger.
that song got a lot of praise and yet they literally did nothing with it, the song wouldve been great on the voice, SBOTA was just a weird song to try and push the album.
bin shine a light and use start anew instead, forget the last single completely.
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Post by themightyeye on Mar 18, 2017 8:39:28 GMT -5
BE had no chance cuz the songs weren't good enough and they chose the wrong singles.
IZ RITE should have been the first or second single because it's radio friendly more than any other song and had the ability to connect with random commercial radio fans....
As for both albums they had better b-sides. Again classic case of poor selections. In a bubble was definitely album worthy not sure what the fuck happened there. World outside my room..Off at the next exit..The list goes on and on...
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Post by themightyeye on Mar 18, 2017 8:40:32 GMT -5
iz rite is pretty awful imo, they shouldve chosen a song like soul love as the teaser then went out the gate with the first single with flick of the finger. that song got a lot of praise and yet they literally did nothing with it, the song wouldve been great on the voice, SBOTA was just a weird song to try and push the album. bin shine a light and use start anew instead, forget the last single completely. Soul Love? Really..... Interesting I think that song is almost as bad as WAL by Noel.
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Post by themightyeye on Mar 18, 2017 8:42:57 GMT -5
Like it or Not IZ RITE was the most radio friendly Oasis-esque tune they had. If it was the first single it would have done great.
Its a commercial tune. Uplifting/melodic
Its not special but wasn't much else on the record.
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Post by Gas Panic on Mar 18, 2017 8:49:30 GMT -5
iz rite is pretty awful imo, they shouldve chosen a song like soul love as the teaser then went out the gate with the first single with flick of the finger. that song got a lot of praise and yet they literally did nothing with it, the song wouldve been great on the voice, SBOTA was just a weird song to try and push the album. bin shine a light and use start anew instead, forget the last single completely. Shine A Light is the worst single ever released by a Gallagher in my opinion. As a standalone track it is very dull and a bit of a nothing tune, it certainly doesnt stand out on the album as single worthy. The single as a whole was also extremely underwhelming as any real fan had the b-side already. Absolute waste of time.
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Post by Gas Panic on Mar 18, 2017 8:51:01 GMT -5
iz rite is pretty awful imo, they shouldve chosen a song like soul love as the teaser then went out the gate with the first single with flick of the finger. that song got a lot of praise and yet they literally did nothing with it, the song wouldve been great on the voice, SBOTA was just a weird song to try and push the album. bin shine a light and use start anew instead, forget the last single completely. Soul Love? Really..... Interesting I think that song is almost as bad as WAL by Noel. I've never been a fan of Soul Love, occasionally I dont mind it but generally I find it pretty boring, it had no business being a single in my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 8:51:31 GMT -5
iz rite is pretty awful imo, they shouldve chosen a song like soul love as the teaser then went out the gate with the first single with flick of the finger. that song got a lot of praise and yet they literally did nothing with it, the song wouldve been great on the voice, SBOTA was just a weird song to try and push the album. bin shine a light and use start anew instead, forget the last single completely. Soul Love? Really..... Interesting I think that song is almost as bad as WAL by Noel. what a life is a good radio friendly track imo, it did the job for Noel, soul love would simply serve the purpose of a teaser song on the announcement, it could really be any song on the album but flick shouldve been in place of SBOTA. iz rite is too retro sounding to demonstrate the fresher sound they were putting forward, Im just saying probably wouldve been the strongest announcement song to build up to flick.
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Post by spud on Mar 18, 2017 9:04:38 GMT -5
Like it or Not IZ RITE was the most radio friendly Oasis-esque tune they had. If it was the first single it would have done great. Its a commercial tune. Uplifting/melodic Its not special but wasn't much else on the record. It is beyond awful. There isn't a song on the record that would do well commercially, but Second Bite Of The Apple was the best choice of the bunch.
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Post by carlober on Mar 18, 2017 9:06:27 GMT -5
I like both Soul Love and Shine a Light. And both are miles better than Iz Rite in my opinion, which sounds dull and a bit forced.
Soul Love is actually one of my favorite Beady Eye tracks. Great mood.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Mar 18, 2017 9:10:13 GMT -5
What do you think the chances are of a 45 year old man with one top 5 single penning a big single? I don't know why people even talk about it. I think Liam is capable of a good album and its a well recieved album and tour that will bring back those of the Oasis fan base that who had stopped bothering with him. His first aim should be the fans he's lost but who would be willing to give him a chance, the wider public are a different matter.
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Post by Rolo on Mar 18, 2017 9:32:57 GMT -5
I love Iz Rite, catchy and uplifting chorus. One I always go back to.
Singles should of been in this order in my opinion:
1. Flick Of The Finger 2. Iz Rite 3. Start Anew
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Post by spaneli on Mar 18, 2017 10:50:52 GMT -5
I like both Soul Love and Shine a Light. And both are miles better than Iz Rite in my opinion, which sounds dull and a bit forced. Soul Love is actually one of my favorite Beady Eye tracks. Great mood. Same. I've always loved Soul Love. I think it's one of the 5 best post Oasis tunes from either brother. Simple, good mood, solid lyrics (love the chorus), atmospheric, and good production. It's the song, next to Flick of the Finger, that Sitek made his money. For me, it's a more complete version of Soldier On, and it's in the vain of the type of song that I think Liam does best at. And it really sounds like it would have been fantastic on SOTSOG's, appearing right after Gas Panic. Iz Rite on the other hand is regurgitated triteness. Sounds like something an A and R man would choose to get in touch with the young people, but fail miserably. Mid paced, too slow, safe, and boring. It sounds like 40 year olds trying to be young. To me, it's the type of song that Beady Eye should have stayed away from. Apart from a couple lines in the chorus it's forgettable, and would have done little to stop their slide. They were already being seen as an Oasis cover band. They had "failed" on DGSS. Why pick the most Oasis/DGSS sounding song on the record as a first single? Makes no sense. You don't go back to a sound that people have already shoved back in your face. The problem with Beady eye is that they were completely tone deaf of their genre. Their best bet was never going to be as a mainstream band releasing trite songs like Iz Rite. That stopped when Oasis ended. They were destined to push BE and release a nice textually layered somewhat dream pop record. Dream pop was and still is one of the upcoming genres for indie stars, and Beady Eye emulated that sound on some of BE, mostly because of Sitek. Imo, they had their best chance playing toward that type of crowd than trying to recapture some 90s glory from a song that sounds like it should be put back in the 60s.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 11:32:54 GMT -5
iz rite is one place above the good rebel in the pile of songs I refuse to listen to. "when you call my naaaaaaame, it takes away my paaaaaain" "Raaaaaaaaaaaiiiin, like raaaaaaaaaaaiiiin" Im just not having it
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Post by spud on Mar 18, 2017 11:38:07 GMT -5
Soul Love is great up until the chorus at which point the whole thing comes crashing down. Start Anew isn't finished. Iz Rite sounds like a Robbie Williams b-side. Flick of The Finger doesn't go anywhere. This has just reminded me how poor Beady Eye were and to lower my expectations for Liam's album. I think Liam probably knows it's not going to be anything special and will keep it deliberately low key.
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Post by dennizz on Mar 18, 2017 12:59:48 GMT -5
Flick Of The Finger, Soul Love, Soon Come Tomorrow, Ballroom Figured, Start Anew, Don't Brother Me, Back After The Break, Off At The Next Exit and Girls In Uniform are all great songs in my opinion. The Problem is that the rest are utter shite to make it a good album
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Post by The Escapist on Mar 18, 2017 13:02:44 GMT -5
Flick of the Finger is a great song, so it's a shame about all the others.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Mar 18, 2017 13:11:17 GMT -5
Flick of the finger is their best song, but it doesn't really go anywhere, yeah. Which is a shame.
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Mar 18, 2017 13:26:56 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure those songs will be better than anything Beady Eye released.
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