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Post by bastardnumber1 on Aug 23, 2016 3:38:38 GMT -5
Sure it´s nice for Liam to see a trailer of a movie about his band which he already saw a few times in full. But when can WE see the trailer finally? Yeah, it's about time. I mean, if it's coming out in October and it's nearly September now, something should be out in the foreseeable future. I don't know what's normal before documentaries like that but as I wrote in the other thread already, the trailer for Amy was released 5 months before it hit cinemas. So it's about time. I'm checking the lorton entertainmen site daily hoping for the "new trailer coming soon" sign to be replaced with an actual trailer.
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Post by sufuking perbley on Aug 23, 2016 5:13:12 GMT -5
The doc probably won't even come out in the cinema in Croatia, so I'm not even bothered.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2016 10:11:12 GMT -5
The doc probably won't even come out in the cinema in Croatia, so I'm not even bothered. A Bruce Springsteen documentary (Springsteen & I) was shown in the cinemas a few years ago (it was a one time thing, I think), so there's hope.
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Post by sufuking perbley on Aug 23, 2016 10:45:21 GMT -5
The doc probably won't even come out in the cinema in Croatia, so I'm not even bothered. A Bruce Springsteen documentary (Springsteen & I) was shown in the cinemas a few years ago (it was a one time thing, I think), so there's hope. Even if they show it, they're gonna show it at some Cinestar in ZG, surely not here in the middle of nowhere. Sadly, I can't excuse another trip up there just to see a movie
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Post by Regi on Aug 25, 2016 7:42:03 GMT -5
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Post by bastardnumber1 on Aug 25, 2016 7:43:36 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2016 8:18:38 GMT -5
its official, with two Gallaghers albums in 2017, live4ever forums will see a vicious bloodbath between Sousage Fingers Team and the Potato Brigade
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Post by tomlivesforever on Aug 25, 2016 12:38:17 GMT -5
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Aug 25, 2016 13:47:53 GMT -5
Haha. Quite funny and self deprecating (for Liam at least) of him. Reminds me a bit of his "People think I'm a loudmouth, blagging gobshite from Manchester - and they’d be right” quote.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 25, 2016 13:50:44 GMT -5
Haha. Quite funny and self deprecating (for Liam at least) of him. Reminds me a bit of his "People think I'm a loudmouth, blagging gobshite from Manchester - and they’d be right” quote. I hope it's a Liam Gallagher front and center style album. Solo Liam is his best foot forward now. Let's rock!
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Post by Adam on Aug 25, 2016 14:58:12 GMT -5
This had me pissing myself wih laughter. Hats off to him for holding his hands up to going against an earlier comment. What a way to announce a solo album.
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Post by space75gr on Aug 25, 2016 15:06:26 GMT -5
welcome back Liam
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2016 15:31:51 GMT -5
probably the guy was still trying (in his liam gallagherish way) to have an oasis reunion.
Im almost certain that if Noel accepts, Liam would gave a middle finger to warner, and tour with oasis. Not because the guy is desesperate, but because he loves the fucking band.
Im curious if his deal with warner says something about that.
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Post by jaq515 on Aug 25, 2016 15:35:05 GMT -5
probably the guy was still trying (in his liam gallagherish way) to have an oasis reunion. Im almost certain that if Noel accepts, Liam would gave a middle finger to warner, and tour with oasis. Not because the guy is desesperate, but because he loves the fucking band. Im curious if his deal with warner says something about that. i doubt thats on the cards but i guess as they both on / or related to warner's IF something came up warners be there to make some ££ somewhere down the line
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Post by guigsysEstring on Aug 25, 2016 15:52:36 GMT -5
probably the guy was still trying (in his liam gallagherish way) to have an oasis reunion. Im almost certain that if Noel accepts, Liam would gave a middle finger to warner, and tour with oasis. Not because the guy is desesperate, but because he loves the fucking band. Im curious if his deal with warner says something about that. Warner Bros. distributed DOYS in the USA under licence from Big Brother Recordings Ltd, but I would doubt the contract will state anything about a release clause if they are putting money and a team behind him. The deal will most likely stand for any releases made under his name with or without Oasis existing as a band, and may well help them in negotiations for the distribution rights to the rest of the Oasis catalogue as those existing deals expire. It will also be used by the Warner Music Group I would think to try and sign Liam as a songwriter to their Warner-Chappell music publishing division. I think that if this album is successful on any level it will make any Oasis reunion be purely about a money spinning 'play the hits' tour, as I can't see either brother ceding control on a future record when they a) are already in control of their music from a solo point of view and b) are already successful without the other. A reunion cash in would make sense however from a purely financial standpoint as the Oasis name would fill arenas and stadiums on it's strength backed by well managed PR hype than either brother as a solo artist, and as a live proposition only could play one off dates or tours indefinitely until they decide to end it for the second time.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2016 16:18:53 GMT -5
probably the guy was still trying (in his liam gallagherish way) to have an oasis reunion. Im almost certain that if Noel accepts, Liam would gave a middle finger to warner, and tour with oasis. Not because the guy is desesperate, but because he loves the fucking band. Im curious if his deal with warner says something about that. Warner Bros. distributed DOYS in the USA under licence from Big Brother Recordings Ltd, but I would doubt the contract will state anything about a release clause if they are putting money and a team behind him. The deal will most likely stand for any releases made under his name with or without Oasis existing as a band, and may well help them in negotiations for the distribution rights to the rest of the Oasis catalogue as those existing deals expire. It will also be used by the Warner Music Group I would think to try and sign Liam as a songwriter to their Warner-Chappell music publishing division. I think that if this album is successful on any level it will make any Oasis reunion be purely about a money spinning 'play the hits' tour, as I can't see either brother ceding control on a future record when the a) are already in control of their music from a solo point of view and b) are already successful without the other. A reunion cash in would make sense however from a purely financial standpoint as the Oasis name would fill arenas and stadiums on it's strength backed by well managed PR hype than either brother as a solo artist, and as a live proposition only could play one off dates or tours indefinitely until they decide to end it for the second time. I dont know nothing about music business nowdays. Is it touring where the big money is nowdays? Becasue in the last years I had seen both brothers playing in front of really small crowds, and I know they both like the coin, specially the older one.
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Post by guigsysEstring on Aug 25, 2016 16:42:15 GMT -5
Warner Bros. distributed DOYS in the USA under licence from Big Brother Recordings Ltd, but I would doubt the contract will state anything about a release clause if they are putting money and a team behind him. The deal will most likely stand for any releases made under his name with or without Oasis existing as a band, and may well help them in negotiations for the distribution rights to the rest of the Oasis catalogue as those existing deals expire. It will also be used by the Warner Music Group I would think to try and sign Liam as a songwriter to their Warner-Chappell music publishing division. I think that if this album is successful on any level it will make any Oasis reunion be purely about a money spinning 'play the hits' tour, as I can't see either brother ceding control on a future record when the a) are already in control of their music from a solo point of view and b) are already successful without the other. A reunion cash in would make sense however from a purely financial standpoint as the Oasis name would fill arenas and stadiums on it's strength backed by well managed PR hype than either brother as a solo artist, and as a live proposition only could play one off dates or tours indefinitely until they decide to end it for the second time. I dont know nothing about music business nowdays. Is it touring where the big money is nowdays? Becasue in the last years I had seen both brothers playing in front of really small crowds, and I know they both like the coin, specially the older one. Historically touring was always a more assured earner if you were a mid size or even some of the big artists, as you set the percentages or up front fees with the promoters and sold the tickets in a straight forward transaction. This is still the case with licensed merchandising also generating secondary income alongside (if you have enough of a draw) being able to either agree a TV live broadcast deal or issue a live LP/DVD after a major show/tour (or both if you have the right fan base). Record sales were always tilted in favour of the record companies in the case of the majors, and later on independents as well, so unless you had either a run of solid selling records or one or two massive crossover records you were unlikely to make yourself the kind of money that makes working optional. Some of the independent labels did offer very favourable deals such as 80's and early 90's Creation Records and Rough Trade under Geoff Travis who would routinely give 50/50 deals that enabled those with comparatively low selling records to be full time artists. The problem with this method was due to how the music industry expenses and revenues work is that it often led to labels getting into financial difficulty or going under, as was the case in the early 1990's when multiple labels were either acquired by majors or folded completely. Music publishing is also a good source of income, which I imagine from the Oasis catalogue is very beneficial to Noel in particular. This is income based on the song itself rather than the recording, which is paid not only on record sales but also airplay, live performance royalties, synchronisation with advertising, films, radio and TV productions, third party cover versions, etc. with copyright on songwriting in the UK for example lasting the lifetime of the author/s plus seventy years after the death of the last surviving author in the case of multiple writers. This means that with a song such as Wonderwall in the Oasis catalogue still gets what will be high regular royalties, as a comparison Lee Mavers of The La's earns an estimated £3,000 to £10,000 per month on 'There She Goes' alone depending on airplay and synchronisation, and that was at it's time a minor crossover hit for an otherwise minor band who had a Silver certification in the UK for their only studio album (60,000) and sold less than 50,000 in the USA which is easily the largest music market in the world. Because of the music publishing and touring factors mentioned above a reunion tour would undoubtedly net millions for Oasis, whilst the recording catalogue will most likely gain a considerable boost in sales due to the renewed interest. The latter has very favourable deals with the first six albums distributed on a joint venture deal between Big Brother and Sony Music Entertainment, whilst DOYS is owned by Big Brother outright with distribution deals in place. This means royalties due to Big Brother Recordings Ltd which is primarily owned by Liam and Noel (40% each with Marcus Russell and Alec McKinlay holding 10% stakes) will be higher than standard and without band debt for expenses to a label will mean they will keep much of what they earn.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2016 17:01:05 GMT -5
Thanks, its always great to lern from someone who know what he is talking about!
Perhaps, that kind of explains what has being going on under the radar in the last months. Liams divorces may had fucked his income from royalties, so touring looks like an excellent fresh and big income, while Noel is in a better position to tell him to fuck off.
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Post by guigsysEstring on Aug 25, 2016 17:13:13 GMT -5
Thanks, its always great to lern from someone who know what he is talking about! Perhaps, thats kind of explains what has being going on under the radar in the last months. Liams divorces may had fucked his income from royalties, so touring looks like an excellent fresh and big income, while Noel is in a better position to tell him to fuck off. I agree that his divorce combined with injuries to Gem Archer and lower than expected BE sales contributed to the demise of Beady Eye, but I would assume Liam is still OK after the divorce going on the reports at the time even after paying off Nicole. The decision to release a solo record is probably storms from not wanting to do nothing aside from the work he does with Pretty Green, which I am not sure how involved on a day to day basis he is despite owning a sizeable minority stake and being the de facto spokesman for the brand. He has a stockpile of songs which he has said are "eligible for recording", so in light of his brother's solo success which as you correctly pointed out puts Noel in a better position over needing/wanting an Oasis reunion, he has probably decided to return to making new music which was his first success and which made his name. I said before the announcement months ago that I hoped he would do this because at worst he will know what happened as 'Liam Gallagher' the artist, at best he will have surprise success that beats his camp's expectations, and anything in between is a good result anyway
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Post by Flatulence Panic on Aug 28, 2016 19:19:39 GMT -5
Liam stop pulling our pisser pal with tweets about Lee Mavers yer tart.
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Post by cloudburster on Aug 28, 2016 23:33:59 GMT -5
Do you think Liam reads this forum? For example when he wrote "It's official I'm a vagina" do you think he thought 'live4ever will like that one'? Maybe I've drunk too muvh
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Post by mimmihopps on Aug 29, 2016 0:40:12 GMT -5
Do you think Liam reads this forum? For example when he wrote "It's official I'm a vagina" do you think he thought 'live4ever will like that one'? Maybe I've drunk too muvh There's eyes and ears watching us everywhere.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2016 3:09:53 GMT -5
Do you think Liam reads this forum? For example when he wrote "It's official I'm a vagina" do you think he thought 'live4ever will like that one'? Maybe I've drunk too muvh But what about creepy/awkward Oasis pics thread? I'm sure he could've used a few pics of Noel from there.
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Post by mossy on Aug 29, 2016 6:09:33 GMT -5
Do you think Liam reads this forum? For example when he wrote "It's official I'm a vagina" do you think he thought 'live4ever will like that one'? Maybe I've drunk too muvh But what about creepy/awkward Oasis pics thread? I'm sure he could've used a few pics of Noel from there. Copying and pasting on an iPhone is beyond his technical capabilities though. X
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Post by mossy on Aug 29, 2016 7:16:03 GMT -5
Do you think Liam reads this forum? For example when he wrote "It's official I'm a vagina" do you think he thought 'live4ever will like that one'? Maybe I've drunk too muvh There's eyes and ears watching us everywhere. I didn't believe it until Gaz Cobain quoted me almost verbatim on Facebook.
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