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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 18:29:00 GMT -5
seeing as there's a few members here who share my interest in the universe lets have its own thread to ponder our existence and the universe we live in (don't believe there is already a thread?) heres a couple of things to start off from: scale: htwins.net/scale2/ |
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Post by The Escapist on Jan 24, 2016 19:15:03 GMT -5
We are so small, it's ridiculous. The greatest thing mankind is even theoretically capable of achieving will always be unfathomably tiny compared to even just the small sections of the universe we inhabit. Relative to the time periods of the universe, everything anything has been, is, or will be is already forgetten. Although I get why many find it depressing, I think it's the only thing that consistently uplifts me.
Nothing matters.
Existence is nothing.
Relax.
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Post by jaq515 on Jan 24, 2016 19:53:53 GMT -5
We are so small, it's ridiculous. The greatest thing mankind is even theoretically capable of achieving will always be unfathomably tiny compared to even just the small sections of the universe we inhabit. Relative to the time periods of the universe, everything anything has been, is, or will be is already forgetten. Although I get why many find it depressing, I think it's the only thing that consistently uplifts me.
Nothing matters.
Existence is nothing.
Relax.
while i sort of agree completely disagree, for our part of the universe we have got to this point because things do matter, thats human nature. we've had lots of great people who have driven our way of life be it tim berner lee, louis pasteur, faraday, shakespeare, hawkings, lennon, gallagher, 100's if not 1000's of people that can be listed and the people that never even known that inspired, helped, chance meeting and obv not forgetting our/ their own families etc etc. universally maybe not important but in the boundaries of our existence we always striving to make things as good as we can. until we can appreciate the universe as a whole, which wont happen in our life time lets appreciate what we have got and realise our existence is actually everything. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 24, 2016 20:57:58 GMT -5
I believe in two theories:
1. Parallel Universes aka Multiverse
2. Simulated Computer Theory (That we're a computer simulation, i.e. the matrix).
I think I'm thinking this way because it's what I WANT to be true. A few years ago, I'd just take things as they are. Now I'm questioning whether if we're really real. Youtube docs are great for exploring this. But us being an illusion of some sort really fucks with your mind, and I'm sure has some merit.
Cool quote from Einstein:
"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."
~Albert Einstein
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Jan 24, 2016 22:12:29 GMT -5
Anyone read Big Bang by Simon Singh? I plan on re-reading it soon. It's excellent but it was hard to get through the first time because I kept having to sit back and take in what I was reading. You hear all your life about how vast the universe is, but until you actually sit and study the numbers involved you just don't appreciate it. And although it does put our own existence in perspective, I feel tremendously gifted to be a part of it, however small my role might be.
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Post by mystoryisgory on Jan 25, 2016 2:06:24 GMT -5
 After all these years, this still blows my mind. Fucking hell. |
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Post by mystoryisgory on Jan 25, 2016 2:08:14 GMT -5
Also, I believe this is necessary.  |
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Post by The Escapist on Jan 25, 2016 2:45:07 GMT -5
We are so small, it's ridiculous. The greatest thing mankind is even theoretically capable of achieving will always be unfathomably tiny compared to even just the small sections of the universe we inhabit. Relative to the time periods of the universe, everything anything has been, is, or will be is already forgetten. Although I get why many find it depressing, I think it's the only thing that consistently uplifts me.
Nothing matters.
Existence is nothing.
Relax.
while i sort of agree completely disagree, for our part of the universe we have got to this point because things do matter, thats human nature. we've had lots of great people who have driven our way of life be it tim berner lee, louis pasteur, faraday, shakespeare, hawkings, lennon, gallagher, 100's if not 1000's of people that can be listed and the people that never even known that inspired, helped, chance meeting and obv not forgetting our/ their own families etc etc. universally maybe not important but in the boundaries of our existence we always striving to make things as good as we can. until we can appreciate the universe as a whole, which wont happen in our life time lets appreciate what we have got and realise our existence is actually everything. I agree that there is subjective meaning writhing our lives, but I still think there isn't any objective meaning. And that the ideas of "good" and "bad" are illusions that may only exist within one species' minds, but I guess that's another topic  |
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Jan 25, 2016 12:31:51 GMT -5
universalgleam nice one mate for starting this thread and here is my 1st contribution
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Jan 25, 2016 12:33:21 GMT -5
also get the fuck out of the way when this happens cos it will happen
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2016 12:33:46 GMT -5
Spacehog toured with Oasis back in the day, and this song feels relevant to the conversation... umm... sort of.
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Jan 25, 2016 12:35:50 GMT -5
After all these years, this still blows my mind. Fucking hell. same here mate i always found this photo to be totally amazing,,think voyager had now left our know solar system its a few billion miles away |
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Jan 25, 2016 12:38:11 GMT -5
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Jan 25, 2016 12:39:49 GMT -5
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Jan 25, 2016 12:43:44 GMT -5
now THIS is truly mindblowing
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Post by The Escapist on Jan 25, 2016 12:54:46 GMT -5
Imagine being able to access the history of everything that's happened in the universe - every civilisation, war, all the forgotten types of art that we will never even be able to understand. The music! The languages and food and epic stories. Really, it's so huge that fiction writing may as be called true historical fact because every one of our stories is bound to have happened somewhere - maybe a trillion light years away, three billion years ago - but somewhere. Makes Dave Sardy seem almost forgivable. Almost.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2016 13:01:45 GMT -5
the size of the universe imo probably means there is likely life out there....its practically a certainty, we have an idea of what life needs to start and our planet is probably considered the perfect scenario an because of that people think that all the factors that had to come together here for life to have happened means the liklihood of it happening elsewhere is slim but like in the documentary I posted says "life finds a way", imo its likely theres lifeforms out there that dont need the what we consider "building blocks of life" however the universe is so vast we probably wont ever know if life does exist before we dissappear and they will need to be advanced enough to respond back, we are advanced but we are only looking at going to mars now which is literally on our doorstep, I doubt we will ever get to a stage to cover even a fraction of what we need too.
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Post by The Escapist on Jan 25, 2016 13:14:52 GMT -5
the size of the universe imo probably means there is likely life out there....its practically a certainty, we have an idea of what life needs to start and our planet is probably considered the perfect scenario an because of that people think that all the factors that had to come together here for life to have happened means the liklihood of it happening elsewhere is slim but like in the documentary I posted says "life finds a way", imo its likely theres lifeforms out there that dont need the what we consider "building blocks of life" however the universe is so vast we probably wont ever know if life does exist before we dissappear and they will need to be advanced enough to respond back, we are advanced but we are only looking at going to mars now which is literally on our doorstep, I doubt we will ever get to a stage to cover even a fraction of what we need too. I think it can basically be considered a fact that intelligent life exists, has existed, and will exist countless times outside of humanity. I wonder how much contact there has been/is between different aliens. Is there a harmonious galaxy-wide community out there? There must have been some civilisations, now completely gone, who's science and understanding would make ours look like the primordial soup in comparison. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2016 13:30:29 GMT -5
the size of the universe imo probably means there is likely life out there....its practically a certainty, we have an idea of what life needs to start and our planet is probably considered the perfect scenario an because of that people think that all the factors that had to come together here for life to have happened means the liklihood of it happening elsewhere is slim but like in the documentary I posted says "life finds a way", imo its likely theres lifeforms out there that dont need the what we consider "building blocks of life" however the universe is so vast we probably wont ever know if life does exist before we dissappear and they will need to be advanced enough to respond back, we are advanced but we are only looking at going to mars now which is literally on our doorstep, I doubt we will ever get to a stage to cover even a fraction of what we need too. I think it can basically be considered a fact that intelligent life exists, has existed, and will exist countless times outside of humanity. I wonder how much contact there has been/is between different aliens. Is there a harmonious galaxy-wide community out there? There must have been some civilisations, now completely gone, who's science and understanding would make ours look like the primordial soup in comparison. you look at how much life and earth has changed in general over the course of millions of years then you can see this happens everywhere, time doesnt stand still, if there was a hugely advanced lifeform around millions of years ago then its quite likely they are now gone, if life never restarted after the dinosaurs etc then no-one wouldve known they even existed, its like mars, thats considered to have been like here millions of years ago yet look at it now. |
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Post by davidjay on Jan 26, 2016 9:31:03 GMT -5
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Jan 26, 2016 12:35:33 GMT -5
not the chocalate bar either lol
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Jan 26, 2016 14:31:31 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2016 14:03:10 GMT -5
he says about it not being that hard to colonize other star systems but the thing is we have evolved to live in the evironment here same with other lifeforms out there, even if there is a earth 2.0 it wont be EXACTLY the same as here it could for example have a different level of gravity which we simply arnt used to, it would likely have different bacteria, viruses etc, its essentially the war of the worlds, its possible to get there but you probably wont be able to survive there, imo thats the biggest problem with travelling in space, we simply arnt evolved to cope with it for a very long period of time, every star system is going to have different conditions to here. |
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Post by eva on Feb 11, 2016 18:14:56 GMT -5
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Post by bastuz on Feb 23, 2016 8:36:10 GMT -5
We are so small, it's ridiculous. The greatest thing mankind is even theoretically capable of achieving will always be unfathomably tiny compared to even just the small sections of the universe we inhabit. Relative to the time periods of the universe, everything anything has been, is, or will be is already forgetten. Although I get why many find it depressing, I think it's the only thing that consistently uplifts me.
Nothing matters.
Existence is nothing.
Relax.
I think your way of thinking is absurd and as a reaction to the linked video it just makes me shake my head in disbelief in humanity. We are not small, nor are we big in the context of space and universe as both the word "small" and the word "big" is relative to the idea of one specific size being the normal size. They require a certein kind of size to have as a reference point. One which isn't available in this video. When looking at the universe there are things so small and so big that you can't take just one specific perspective and use that as a reference to compare things as either small or big, at least not if you want to stay true to the facts. You always have to be ready to take in that there are things way bigger than the biggest thing you could imagine and much smaller than the smallest thing you could imagine aswell. As both of those things to keep in mind are equally important, truths such as those stated in the video do not have any effect whatsoever on what we subjectively should consider either small or big. It only makes us aware that we always have to be ready to change the frames of what we can imagine in both ways. Both so that we can imagine even bigger things and so that we can imagine even smaller ones.
What's more important though is always to hate malmö.
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