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Post by Greedy's Mighty Sigh on Jan 4, 2016 10:50:23 GMT -5
"the biggest pop band in the world exposed millions of fans to a really great and certainly frightening piece of avant-garde art"
"Beautifully organised"
"Revolution 9" is an embarrassment that stands like a black hole at the end of the White Album, sucking up whatever energy and interest remain after the preceding ninety minutes of music"
Some people regard it as an artisic masterpiece, a beautifully crafted painting of a revolution to sound created by the genius of the Beatles.
Others think its just an absolute load of nonsense thrown together and put at the end of an already really lengthy album to feed lennons weird shit obsession and if it wasnt by the beatles there would be no defending it at all.
What does L4E think though?
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jan 4, 2016 10:55:40 GMT -5
Shit, creepy as fuck.
I don't know anything about avant garde and sound collages so can't judge that.
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Post by andybellwillring on Jan 4, 2016 10:56:37 GMT -5
Yoko is cool, Revolution 9 most definitely is not.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2016 10:59:43 GMT -5
what do i think?
i think it is an aberration from an otherwise extremely talented group of songwriters who were looking to release something "brilliant" and "artsy" while clearly attempting to satisfy their massive egos and drug-fueled bravado.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jan 4, 2016 11:00:08 GMT -5
Interesting question.
As far as I'm concerned, the tune (if you can even call it that) is just Lennon, probably off his tits on heroin, arseing about in the studio, flicking all the switches and the knobs on the mixing desk, because what the hell, he's John Lennon. I fully intend on never listening to it again.
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Post by Cast on Jan 4, 2016 11:12:50 GMT -5
Get what they were trying to do, but they tried a little too hard and failed. There's a thin line between good avant garde and shit avant garde, but this definitely leans more on the shit side. Cool that a band like the Beatles had a balls to do a track like this. It surely introduced a lot of people into sound/audio art which is cool, but the Beatles were always about the songs. I like how it lead into Good Night but it does kinda drag an overstuffed record along a little too much.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jan 4, 2016 11:13:58 GMT -5
I still really want to hear Carnival of light though, even though it's probably even worse than Revolution 9.
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Post by uǝɥʇɐǝɥ on Jan 4, 2016 11:35:45 GMT -5
I like it.
Game Changer!
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 4, 2016 11:40:45 GMT -5
Lennon's ego at an all-time high. Not Guilty should have been on the album over this 8 minute monster of mess.
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Post by boneheadsbolero on Jan 4, 2016 11:53:47 GMT -5
It was rubbish but on an album that lengthy and varied why not?
I've never heard it on acid but I bet it's a pretty spooky aural experience
when tripping.....as Lennon intended it to be. What people seem to miss
about it is that it was a two-fer. Following it with Ringo warbling Good
Night was the perfect punchline to the joke. The Beatles were beautiful.
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Post by boneheadsbolero on Jan 4, 2016 11:59:24 GMT -5
Maybe you'll like this unreleased mix of what birthed it better.
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Jan 4, 2016 12:08:28 GMT -5
It's no masterpiece, but I think it's great in places. Rearrange it, condense it down to 3 minutes and then maybe it'd be a sharp composition. The first minute or so is cool but after that it seems to lose direction completely. Respect to Lennon for compiling it though... almost great.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2016 13:38:27 GMT -5
It should have been the lead single instead of Hey Jude.
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Post by Adam on Jan 4, 2016 13:45:40 GMT -5
It should have been the lead single instead of Hey Jude. Rumours are that Liam is covering it for his upcoming solo album. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2016 13:48:27 GMT -5
It's really hard to even call this a song.
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Post by matt on Jan 4, 2016 15:01:40 GMT -5
It contrasts well with the comfy dreamlike Good Night that follows - Rev 9 complete opposite in fact due to its sinister and surreal nature, so its nightmarish connotations work well in the context of the end of the White Album. Good Night compounds the feeling of escaping that trip I think.
That's my interpretation at least, and it is effective somewhat. On its own, I wouldn't bother listening to it without that context. Still better than his shite like Bungalow Bill - easily the worst song on that album.
I'm not so keen on the White Album to be honest because it just sounds like a few solo artists collected into a compilation. It's a scatterbrain approach and by this stage the cohesive tight unit of Lennon/McCartney from Sgt Pepper is finished for good, a time when both of them were completely in sync with one another and that showed in that music. Brutal fact is neither were not nearly as great without the other.
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Post by RocketMan on Jan 4, 2016 15:56:07 GMT -5
I think its a great tune to listen to while being high, just like a weird lynch movie but i get why people dont like it. I wouldnt listen to it on purpose myself. But i found a cover on youtube, which is great
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jan 4, 2016 16:32:39 GMT -5
It contrasts well with the comfy dreamlike Good Night that follows - Rev 9 complete opposite in fact due to its sinister and surreal nature, so its nightmarish connotations work well in the context of the end of the White Album. Good Night compounds the feeling of escaping that trip I think. That's my interpretation at least, and it is effective somewhat. On its own, I wouldn't bother listening to it without that context. Still better than his shite like Bungalow Bill - easily the worst song on that album. I'm not so keen on the White Album to be honest because it just sounds like a few solo artists collected into a compilation. It's a scatterbrain approach and by this stage the cohesive tight unit of Lennon/McCartney from Sgt Pepper is finished for good, a time when both of them were completely in sync with one another and that showed in that music. Brutal fact is neither were not nearly as great without the other. Lennon and McCartney had long been writing songs on their own by the time The White Album occured (this goes back even as far as Help! With Paul being the only Beatle to appear on Yesterday). The difference is that now, more often they were also recording songs with one or more Beatles lacking (or McCartney recording things completely on his own) They were both great, with or without the other. Strawberry Fields, Hey Jude, Blackbird, Penny Lane, Come Together are all very good examples of great songs that weren't written "eyeball to eyeball" as they called it themselves. |
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Post by matt on Jan 4, 2016 17:05:34 GMT -5
It contrasts well with the comfy dreamlike Good Night that follows - Rev 9 complete opposite in fact due to its sinister and surreal nature, so its nightmarish connotations work well in the context of the end of the White Album. Good Night compounds the feeling of escaping that trip I think. That's my interpretation at least, and it is effective somewhat. On its own, I wouldn't bother listening to it without that context. Still better than his shite like Bungalow Bill - easily the worst song on that album. I'm not so keen on the White Album to be honest because it just sounds like a few solo artists collected into a compilation. It's a scatterbrain approach and by this stage the cohesive tight unit of Lennon/McCartney from Sgt Pepper is finished for good, a time when both of them were completely in sync with one another and that showed in that music. Brutal fact is neither were not nearly as great without the other. Lennon and McCartney had long been writing songs on their own by the time The White Album occured (this goes back even as far as Help! With Paul being the only Beatle to appear on Yesterday). The difference is that now, more often they were also recording songs with one or more Beatles lacking (or McCartney recording things completely on his own) They were both great, with or without the other. Strawberry Fields, Hey Jude, Blackbird, Penny Lane, Come Together are all very good examples of great songs that weren't written "eyeball to eyeball" as they called it themselves. Yeah but their ideas were always in sync - Sgt Pepper showed this, and they seemed to totally buy into the concept of it all, despite writing songs on their own. White Album seemed a variety of different ideas - but that's why many love it, I suppose - to sound like Forrest Gump - its like a box of chocolates with many different surprises, and if you don't like one, then another one will surely make up for it all. |
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Post by mkoasis on Jan 5, 2016 1:07:28 GMT -5
Creepy as fuck, I agree. But that is its brilliance. Listenig to this alone in the dark at 3am is quite an experience. Its not a number I'd ever listen to on its own but within the context of the White Album I tjink its perfect. I understand the dislike for it, but I always look forward to it on disc 2.
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Post by Jailbird on Jan 5, 2016 4:07:51 GMT -5
Can't call it a masterpiece.
It was done just because old Lennon could.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jan 5, 2016 4:22:37 GMT -5
Not even Beatles fans like it, so that should say enough.
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Post by mystoryisgory on Jan 7, 2016 2:30:16 GMT -5
Am I one of the few who likes this track? Very ominous and frightening. It feels chaotic yet somehow it also feels cohesive in a disturbing manner. If that makes any sense.  But the real question is whether you'd have preferred What's the New Mary Jane on the White Album instead of this song.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2016 4:00:28 GMT -5
It should have been the lead single instead of Hey Jude. Rumours are that Liam is covering it for his upcoming solo album. Number neeeeeeeeiiiiiiinah! Number neeeeeeeeiiiiiiinah! Number neeeeeeeeiiiiiiinah! Number neeeeeeeeiiiiiiinah! |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jan 7, 2016 4:01:42 GMT -5
Am I one of the few who likes this track? Very ominous and frightening. It feels chaotic yet somehow it also feels cohesive in a disturbing manner. If that makes any sense. But the real question is whether you'd have preferred What's the New Mary Jane on the White Album instead of this song. No, that one is both shit and creepy. |
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