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Post by Colt on Oct 4, 2007 9:52:39 GMT -5
First off they are by far my favorite band. But here's the problem I see with them, it's Noel. He has no confidence in Liam's voice so he thinks he needs to sing everything now and very few people are into Oasis because of Noel's voice. He puts a bunch of his tunes on every album now that are mediocre at best and thinks he has to sing them. Does anyone really get excited about the new songs on a new album that are delivered by Noel? Give Noel 1 song an album and let Liam do the rest. I can't be bothered with Part of the Queen, Mucky Fuckers, Or Lord Don't Bore Me Now (Like the titles?  ) Noel needs to let Liam sing again, and quit trying to be Bon Jovi. |
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Post by novascotialad on Oct 4, 2007 10:36:20 GMT -5
Me thinks that LA smog is rotting your brain from the inside out. Go snap a pic of Britney or something.
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Post by supersonic1983 on Oct 4, 2007 11:14:15 GMT -5
I think he's right. Noel is too comfortable in his own skin now, and unless he lets the rest of them (particularly Liam) start to dictate the direction of the band a bit more they're gonna become really stale, really soon.
Let's face it, Noel reckons LDSMD is mega, and we all know that's not true.
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Post by TheEXPERIENCE on Oct 4, 2007 11:39:23 GMT -5
First off they are by far my favorite band. But here's the problem I see with them, it's Noel. He has no confidence in Liam's voice so he thinks he needs to sing everything now and very few people are into Oasis because of Noel's voice. He puts a bunch of his tunes on every album now that are mediocre at best and thinks he has to sing them. Does anyone really get excited about the new songs on a new album that are delivered by Noel? Give Noel 1 song an album and let Liam do the rest. I can't be bothered with Part of the Queen, Mucky Fuckers, Or Lord Don't Bore Me Now (Like the titles? ) Noel needs to let Liam sing again, and quit trying to be Bon Jovi. No offense but I think you're an idiot Part of the Queue is one of the highlights of DBTT...Little By Little, Where Did It All Go Wrong, you're telling me Liam could sing those better than Noel? Especially now!? Man I think you're wayyy off base...especially considering most people I play new Oasis for tell me they prefer Noel singing over Liam. The only thing I do agree about it Mucky Fingers...I think Liam's rough, raspy voice would've fit that song better than Noel's. Other than that, I advise you to stop drinking the bong water |
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Post by seanppp on Oct 4, 2007 11:57:52 GMT -5
I think Noel's songs are great AND I really like his voice. I really don't think you're correct.
However, I think Liam could have pulled off LDSMD and just imagine how awesome that song would be with his voice!
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Post by jlzoasis on Oct 4, 2007 13:12:08 GMT -5
Its not a matter of Noel not letting Liam sing, its a matter of Liam NOT being able to sing a song. I remember reading Liam tried to sing Mucky Fingers and he just couldn't get it. I love Noel's voice, but I dunno LIam is just MEANT to sing, and I would like hear more of him.
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Post by mimmihopps on Oct 4, 2007 14:29:05 GMT -5
I can't be bothered with Part of the Queen, Mucky Fuckers, Or Lord Don't Bore Me Now (Like the titles? ) No, I don't like those titles and "Part of The Queue" is a great tune. I agree with you Jenny S... "Liam is just meant to sing". Noel is the brain of the band and Liam is the face of the band and THE singer of the band. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2007 22:20:53 GMT -5
All right man, I just emailed that to Noely G and he said you're right and he's going to stop singing on all but one tune per album. He feels like such an idiot now, ignoring the fact that the tune that he sung on was the most popular single of DBTT and DLBIA is a classic.
Cheers man!
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Post by holdonecho on Oct 5, 2007 2:48:48 GMT -5
mstrau1 is right. The problem does indeed lie with Noel.
But the problem doesn't lie with who is singing the songs, it is more to do with who is writing them. I think that Oasis would have much less of a 'Problem' if Noel returned to writing (almost all) the songs.
I was driving and listening to DBTT and HC and found that i skipped past most of the non-noel songs.
Only Songbird and Hung in a Bad Place on HC and Turn Up the Sun on DBTT really held up against the Noel songs.
(well almost all of Noel's songs, Probably All In The Mind is very, very ordinary and got skipped as well).
Don't get me wrong, I don't mind Liam's songs but they wither after repeated listens and his lyrics really are shocking (well, unless he lifts them almost fully formed from lennon ala BOADC).
Noel is the songwriter in the band.
His songs are Oasis.
Gem and Andy, while capable of the occasional winning melody are consistently writing 'oasis like' songs and Liam is showing no sign of ever lifting his tunes beyond the sub-Syd Barrett realm of simple, child-like ditties.
I hope (although don't expect) that Noel writes at least 8 of the tracks on the next album.
And yeah, I also agree that Lord Don't Slow Me Down would sound amazing with Liam's growl.
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Post by jlzoasis on Oct 5, 2007 7:55:24 GMT -5
mstrau1 is right. The problem does indeed lie with Noel. But the problem doesn't lie with who is singing the songs, it is more to do with who is writing them. I think that Oasis would have much less of a 'Problem' if Noel returned to writing (almost all) the songs. I was driving and listening to DBTT and HC and found that i skipped past most of the non-noel songs. Only Songbird and Hung in a Bad Place on HC and Turn Up the Sun on DBTT really held up against the Noel songs. (well almost all of Noel's songs, Probably All In The Mind is very, very ordinary and got skipped as well). Don't get me wrong, I don't mind Liam's songs but they wither after repeated listens and his lyrics really are shocking (well, unless he lifts them almost fully formed from lennon ala BOADC). Noel is the songwriter in the band. His songs are Oasis. Gem and Andy, while capable of the occasional winning melody are consistently writing 'oasis like' songs and Liam is showing no sign of ever lifting his tunes beyond the sub-Syd Barrett realm of simple, child-like ditties. I hope (although don't expect) that Noel writes at least 8 of the tracks on the next album. And yeah, I also agree that Lord Don't Slow Me Down would sound amazing with Liam's growl. . I dont think Noel had the will or capacity to write a whole Oasis album again. That phase in Oasis is very much over. As for Gem and Andy writting Oasis type songs... I really dont think Turn up the Sun was very Oasisy. nor is the Eyeball Tickler. As for Liam, he is growing I think the last song he wrote , Pass Me Down the Wine, I would not call that child like, I was extremely impressed by it, and plus is not an "Oasis type " sounding song. The day of Noel writing every song are gone, sure he's the best at it, I just dont think he has it in him anymore. |
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Post by supersonic1983 on Oct 5, 2007 10:26:31 GMT -5
Two easy steps to making the next great album; 1) write more, and 2) improve the vetting process.
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Post by seanppp on Oct 6, 2007 13:16:35 GMT -5
Liam tried to sing Mucky Fingers? Wow! I'd love to hear those outtakes!
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Post by MEANSTREAK on Oct 7, 2007 20:53:13 GMT -5
Liam tried to sing Mucky Fingers? Wow! I'd love to hear those outtakes! I was just thinking that, and hearing him do LDSMD |
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Post by LDD- Angelic Child on Oct 8, 2007 8:17:08 GMT -5
sorry... but LDSMD is played in F#... there is no fucking way Liam could sing it without considerably changing the song.
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Post by lionsden® on Oct 8, 2007 10:24:28 GMT -5
Liam tried to sing Mucky Fingers? Wow! I'd love to hear those outtakes! I would not want to hear that  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2007 11:32:02 GMT -5
i love noels voice i thinks its better than liams i hope oasis split and noel goes solo.
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Post by PolskaBro1824 on Oct 8, 2007 12:22:19 GMT -5
Noel IS Oasis now. Nowadays Oasis is only still standing because of the quality tunes Noel puts out. Not because Liam has one of the biggest voices in rock music anymore... because he doesn't. Take Noel out, Oasis is done. I don't know about you guys, but if Noel left, curiosity would be the only thing leading me to even bother with Oasis. If Noel ever comes out with a solo album though, I'd be in line for days if ned be.
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Post by NoelandMeMay29 on Oct 8, 2007 19:09:46 GMT -5
Liam's voice is fixable. He just needs to realize that there is a problem. Watch old performances he doesn't try and scream the lyrics or strain his neck forward. Look at any Chicago Metro 94.
It used to really seem Liam didn't care on stage. Now he tries to come off menacing.
He's not 52 he can fix his voice w/ coaching and operations either on his voice box or in his nasal cavity or both. But the question is will he? I was happy w/ DBTT in studio, but live he is hit and miss based on rest in between shows.
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Post by lionsden® on Oct 8, 2007 19:38:53 GMT -5
Except for TUTS Liam's voice sounds heavily doctored on DBTT
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Post by MEANSTREAK on Oct 8, 2007 19:44:59 GMT -5
sorry... but LDSMD is played in F#... there is no fucking way Liam could sing it without considerably changing the song. sure it would be shit live but I bet they could make it sound good in the studio! |
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Post by MEANSTREAK on Oct 8, 2007 19:46:40 GMT -5
Except for TUTS Liam's voice sounds heavily doctored on DBTT agreed, it's the cigs that killed it |
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Post by wankinginthebushes on Oct 9, 2007 4:12:52 GMT -5
Except for TUTS Liam's voice sounds heavily doctored on DBTT agreed, it's the cigs that killed it But Noel smokes too. Its a mixture of things, smoking, coke, but i believe in his particular case its his stance and the fact that hes sang in a very busy band for over 10 years. |
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Post by start at the end on Oct 9, 2007 10:12:11 GMT -5
Have to agree here. While I think noel is a more polished (even more accomplished) "singer", it is liam's voice that is the oasis sound. I have no problem whatsoever with a noel sung tune now and again, but the "noel writes for liam" formula seems to work best. Not that DEF MAYBE (0 noel sung songs) and WTSMG? (1 Noel sung song) completely make the case, but they sure don't hurt. Perhaps it was coincidental that arguably the two LEAST appreciated oasis albums (SOTSOG and HC) featured the MOST noel-sung songs? I guess DBTT worked out, but while I love mucky fingers and part of the queue, many people I know think they're the lowpoints of the album.
who knows?
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Post by songbird11 on Oct 9, 2007 12:40:40 GMT -5
noel dont have to sing as much as liam ... maybe 3 songs at the most on an album & maybe 3-5 songs live,liams voice is mega as it is,everyone's voice changes over the years.everything with oasis is great & they'll make loads more albums as liam said in the latest mojo magazine.... he's got time for nothing else but music & the family
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Post by Clint on Oct 10, 2007 0:53:43 GMT -5
the problem with oasis is that they're old and frankly, not musically proficient or experimental enough to make a new sound. The old days they rocked. Nowadays there's some good songwriting, but that's pretty much it.
They're just not that interesting of a band anymore. I love the lads, but that's how it is.
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