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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2019 16:21:14 GMT -5
Noel dumping Bonehead is mentioned in the recent radio X interview. So did Bonehead leave, or was he fired? There seems to be many versions of the story. |
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Post by thespiderandthefly on Jun 15, 2019 21:25:03 GMT -5
Oasis 2019 #1 Single: Side A: Shockwave Side B: Sail On  |
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Post by fartpanic on Jun 16, 2019 18:07:58 GMT -5
Noel dumping Bonehead is mentioned in the recent radio X interview. So did Bonehead leave, or was he fired? There seems to be many versions of the story. Bonehead left and Noel didnt want him to. Noel has tried to play cool since and make up lies about letting him leave but i know who's story I believe, and it isn't the media darling Noel. |
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Post by beentherenow on Jun 17, 2019 5:35:39 GMT -5
I think the whole Bonehead leaving thing was such a mixture of things that it become confusing and even the people involved don’t really know what happened.
My take based on what various people have said is that Noel was obviously on a massive downer and thought they’d/he’d dropped the ball with Be Here Now because they were all so pissed and/or high to properly focus on the music and the album suffered as a result.
To rectify this the SOTSOG sessions were going to be the complete opposite; sober and all about the music. Bonehead being the mad house that he is, called Noel’s bluff and thinking it was still 1996 went for it. Noel fucking fuming called him up in his behaviour and probably said words along the lines of ‘either you’re hear sober or you’re not here at all’. Bonehead thinks fuck this, this isn’t the same band anymore, I’m off! No one objects
Therefore from one point of view, Noel gave bonehead an ultimatum he couldnt keep and Noel more or less showed him the door. Alternative Bonehead quit because he didn’t agree with the direction of the band and would rather be at home than stuck sober in a house in France
I do see both points of view. Noel was quite right that they couldn’t go on partying in the same way and something had to change. However also the SOTSOG sessions started less than a year after the end of the BHN tour! It’s not like years had gone by so Bonehead probably was within his rights to not expect that much to change in such short amount of time and just because Noel was on a downer didn’t mean he had to bring everyone else with him
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2019 8:25:04 GMT -5
Oasis 2019 #1 Single: Side A: Shockwave Side B: Sail On Shockwave isn't a good enough single honestly. It's average at best. If this was their "comeback" single then people would be greatly disappointed indeed. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jun 17, 2019 10:06:38 GMT -5
I think the whole Bonehead leaving thing was such a mixture of things that it become confusing and even the people involved don’t really know what happened. My take based on what various people have said is that Noel was obviously on a massive downer and thought they’d/he’d dropped the ball with Be Here Now because they were all so pissed and/or high to properly focus on the music and the album suffered as a result. To rectify this the SOTSOG sessions were going to be the complete opposite; sober and all about the music. Bonehead being the mad house that he is, called Noel’s bluff and thinking it was still 1996 went for it. Noel fucking fuming called him up in his behaviour and probably said words along the lines of ‘either you’re hear sober or you’re not here at all’. Bonehead thinks fuck this, this isn’t the same band anymore, I’m off! No one objects Therefore from one point of view, Noel gave bonehead an ultimatum he couldnt keep and Noel more or less showed him the door. Alternative Bonehead quit because he didn’t agree with the direction of the band and would rather be at home than stuck sober in a house in France I do see both points of view. Noel was quite right that they couldn’t go on partying in the same way and something had to change. However also the SOTSOG sessions started less than a year after the end of the BHN tour! It’s not like years had gone by so Bonehead probably was within his rights to not expect that much to change in such short amount of time and just because Noel was on a downer didn’t mean he had to bring everyone else with him It was a known thing going into the studio that Noel wanted a clean vibe going on. Plenty of articles were written about it as the boys traveled to France. I thought it sounded like a good idea after a whirlwind 1995-1998. So Bonehead knew the stakes going in. Imagine not being able to handle not drinking for a 3-4 week period? Bonehead might have needed some help. Also I always assumed Noel snuck in at night on all previous Oasis albums and re-recoded all of Boneheads and Guigs parts. Sorta like Billy Corgan. |
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Post by fartpanic on Jun 17, 2019 10:59:19 GMT -5
I think the whole Bonehead leaving thing was such a mixture of things that it become confusing and even the people involved don’t really know what happened. My take based on what various people have said is that Noel was obviously on a massive downer and thought they’d/he’d dropped the ball with Be Here Now because they were all so pissed and/or high to properly focus on the music and the album suffered as a result. To rectify this the SOTSOG sessions were going to be the complete opposite; sober and all about the music. Bonehead being the mad house that he is, called Noel’s bluff and thinking it was still 1996 went for it. Noel fucking fuming called him up in his behaviour and probably said words along the lines of ‘either you’re hear sober or you’re not here at all’. Bonehead thinks fuck this, this isn’t the same band anymore, I’m off! No one objects Therefore from one point of view, Noel gave bonehead an ultimatum he couldnt keep and Noel more or less showed him the door. Alternative Bonehead quit because he didn’t agree with the direction of the band and would rather be at home than stuck sober in a house in France I do see both points of view. Noel was quite right that they couldn’t go on partying in the same way and something had to change. However also the SOTSOG sessions started less than a year after the end of the BHN tour! It’s not like years had gone by so Bonehead probably was within his rights to not expect that much to change in such short amount of time and just because Noel was on a downer didn’t mean he had to bring everyone else with him So Noel was actually being sensible and banned any use of drugs and alcohol? Didn't Noel himself have a drug induced panic attack in 2000? I always thought Noel was very reluctant for him to leave and asked him to stay. Bonehead probably just wasn't having any fun and had enough money to get out. |
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Post by beentherenow on Jun 17, 2019 12:09:45 GMT -5
I think the whole Bonehead leaving thing was such a mixture of things that it become confusing and even the people involved don’t really know what happened. My take based on what various people have said is that Noel was obviously on a massive downer and thought they’d/he’d dropped the ball with Be Here Now because they were all so pissed and/or high to properly focus on the music and the album suffered as a result. To rectify this the SOTSOG sessions were going to be the complete opposite; sober and all about the music. Bonehead being the mad house that he is, called Noel’s bluff and thinking it was still 1996 went for it. Noel fucking fuming called him up in his behaviour and probably said words along the lines of ‘either you’re hear sober or you’re not here at all’. Bonehead thinks fuck this, this isn’t the same band anymore, I’m off! No one objects Therefore from one point of view, Noel gave bonehead an ultimatum he couldnt keep and Noel more or less showed him the door. Alternative Bonehead quit because he didn’t agree with the direction of the band and would rather be at home than stuck sober in a house in France I do see both points of view. Noel was quite right that they couldn’t go on partying in the same way and something had to change. However also the SOTSOG sessions started less than a year after the end of the BHN tour! It’s not like years had gone by so Bonehead probably was within his rights to not expect that much to change in such short amount of time and just because Noel was on a downer didn’t mean he had to bring everyone else with him So Noel was actually being sensible and banned any use of drugs and alcohol? Didn't Noel himself have a drug induced panic attack in 2000? I always thought Noel was very reluctant for him to leave and asked him to stay. Bonehead probably just wasn't having any fun and had enough money to get out. I think the panic attack was around late 98 which lead to Songs like Gas Panic! and Roll It Over. A sober ultimatum was definitely given for the SOTSOG recording sessions |
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Post by fartpanic on Jun 17, 2019 13:57:10 GMT -5
So Noel was actually being sensible and banned any use of drugs and alcohol? Didn't Noel himself have a drug induced panic attack in 2000? I always thought Noel was very reluctant for him to leave and asked him to stay. Bonehead probably just wasn't having any fun and had enough money to get out. I think the panic attack was around late 98 which lead to Songs like Gas Panic! and Roll It Over. A sober ultimatum was definitely given for the SOTSOG recording sessions I dont think that was all that was behind it. For all we know, Bonehead might have hated working with them in general. When you think about it, he left as soon as he had enough money to know he was properly secure. He seen the way Noel treated his mates in the band and probably thought it was a case of jumping before he was pushed. |
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Post by funhouse on Jun 17, 2019 14:05:57 GMT -5
I remember, years ago, in a thread of people’s top 10 oasis songs, a member (can’t renember who) put down Good to be Free and Hey Now as their top 2 oasis songs. While I wouldn’t put them as my top 2, I can’t help but notice that these are 2 songs I return to and appreciate more as I get older. hey now has my favorite oasis lyric probably ever... and time, as it stands, won't be held in my hands or living inside of my skin and as it fell from the sky, i asked myself why can i never let anyone in? classic shit. I absolutely love Liams's vocal performance on this track as well, he really makes you FEEL those lyrics! |
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Post by Aman on Jun 17, 2019 14:28:32 GMT -5
Oasis 2019 #1 Single: Side A: Shockwave Side B: Sail On Shockwave isn't a good enough single honestly. It's average at best. If this was their "comeback" single then people would be greatly disappointed indeed. Without a doubt. |
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Jun 17, 2019 16:07:06 GMT -5
Still pisses me off to this day that they never covered A Day In The Life
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Post by rickypaglais on Jun 17, 2019 16:57:03 GMT -5
I would like to have heard WTSMG recorded with Tony.
I would like to have heard SOTSOG recorded with Bonehead and Guigsy
I would like the DBTT tour to have been done without Zak Starkey
Noel didn't write the best song on an Oasis album since SOTSOG
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Post by fartpanic on Jun 17, 2019 17:05:18 GMT -5
I would like to have heard WTSMG recorded with Tony. I would like to have heard SOTSOG recorded with Bonehead and Guigsy I would like the DBTT tour to have been done without Zak Starkey Noel didn't write the best song on an Oasis album since SOTSOG That last one is just silly |
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Post by rickypaglais on Jun 17, 2019 17:08:37 GMT -5
I would like to have heard WTSMG recorded with Tony. I would like to have heard SOTSOG recorded with Bonehead and Guigsy I would like the DBTT tour to have been done without Zak Starkey Noel didn't write the best song on an Oasis album since SOTSOG That last one is just silly Nah, Go Let It Out is better than Little James |
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Post by fartpanic on Jun 17, 2019 17:17:36 GMT -5
That last one is just silly Nah, Go Let It Out is better than Little James Lol. Can you tell me which song on DBTT you think is better than The Importance of Being Idle? |
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Post by rickypaglais on Jun 17, 2019 17:37:05 GMT -5
Nah, Go Let It Out is better than Little James Lol. Can you tell me which song on DBTT you think is better than The Importance of Being Idle? Almost all of them - I can't stand The Importance Of Being Idle. It makes my teeth itch |
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Post by fartpanic on Jun 17, 2019 17:41:37 GMT -5
Lol. Can you tell me which song on DBTT you think is better than The Importance of Being Idle? Almost all of them - I can't stand The Importance Of Being Idle. It makes my teeth itch Have you considered Sensodyne? |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 17, 2019 18:51:57 GMT -5
Nah, Go Let It Out is better than Little James Lol. Can you tell me which song on DBTT you think is better than The Importance of Being Idle? A Bell Will Ring. Next Bond song, I reckon. |
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Post by fartpanic on Jun 17, 2019 19:51:55 GMT -5
Lol. Can you tell me which song on DBTT you think is better than The Importance of Being Idle? A Bell Will Ring. Next Bond song, I reckon. I often look at Gems face after telling the story that it's Ringos favourite. Closest we'll ever get to seeing a live action oasis member cum face. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 19, 2019 13:25:24 GMT -5
Did Gem just flip someone off - at 1.50, look at the left side of your screen?
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Post by Derrick on Jun 20, 2019 14:02:15 GMT -5
Did Gem just flip someone off - at 1.50, look at the left side of your screen? Gem had no choice. If he'd politely pointed his forefinger at the sound engineer/roadie he'd have dropped his plectrum. No one wants Gem fingerpicking his guitar on "Better man" & unexpectedly turning it into a folk song. No offence taken, though, being randomly disrespected & humiliated is part of a roadie's job. |
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Post by Aman on Jun 20, 2019 19:21:40 GMT -5
This wasn't bad.
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Post by Binary Sunset on Jun 20, 2019 22:46:15 GMT -5
Did Gem just flip someone off - at 1.50, look at the left side of your screen? Gem had no choice. If he'd politely pointed his forefinger at the sound engineer/roadie he'd have dropped his plectrum. No one wants Gem fingerpicking his guitar on "Better man" & unexpectedly turning it into a folk song. No offence taken, though, being randomly disrespected & humiliated is part of a roadie's job. That scenario might actually cause me to watch Better Man. At least once more anyway |
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Post by Binary Sunset on Jun 20, 2019 22:47:44 GMT -5
Did Gem just flip someone off - at 1.50, look at the left side of your screen? I mean if it happened, it wasn't just now. It was, oh man, 17 YEARS AGO! |
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