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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2016 6:26:15 GMT -5
I wish Noel would stop slagging off BHN. He talked about Fade In-Out on the radio show like it's nothing. It's one of if not the greatest tracks Oasis ever made! It's like the doors on acid trying to sound like the stones on coke. Fucking great. In fact it should have been much longer too. Imagine an atmospheric/Floyd-esque 20 minute version of fade in-out. Would have been incredible!! Yeah yeah yeah !! The outro should have been better. I really like it because it sounds very different than all the other Oasis songs. |
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Post by Johnny Rhythm on Feb 18, 2016 8:14:03 GMT -5
listened to DOYS this morning for the first time in a while, had a great time, some brilliant songs on there, gotta love that artwork too  |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Feb 18, 2016 9:04:09 GMT -5
I was watching an interview with Lindsay Buckingham (guitarist from Fleetwood Mac) and he was asked what work he is most proud of. His response was that it was the stuff he did on Tusk (the follow-up to Rumours) even though it flopped. That got me thinking how instead generally Noel seems to follow the general public opinion on his albums rather than have any of his own. Maybe it's just coincidence but the two albums which are generally dismissed by the public and critics (BHN and SOTSOG) are also dismissed as being shit by Noel and vice-versa the three albums which are considered the best (DM, MG and DBTT) are also his three favourites. The only differences he seems to share are on HC which he appears to like but then again even that sold well. It's obviously his opinion but it'd be nice to hear him say something which doesn't follow general consensus More than that I often get the feeling that having written,completely or in part,all those records (and so being closer to them more than each one of us will ever be emotionally speaking) he just can't fully separate the music from whatever he was going through in his life |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Feb 18, 2016 9:10:49 GMT -5
I never really understood why some people dislike Digsy's Dinner- I mean, it's just like She's Electric, it's a lighthearted, happy song about not living life wisely, tea time and fucking lasagna. what could ever top that? it also has a really nice and catchy melody, and the piano solo just gives you that warm childhood-like feeling of absolute carefreeness and eternal sunshine I've always loved it and its lighthearted mood I also find it to be kind of a statement for the whole "we don't give a fuck" attitude Oasis had at the time...I mean,who else would put a song about lasagna in what would later be deemed as one of the greatest debuts of all time?  I think it's a great live tune too,love the way Mike plays the solo |
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Post by beentherenow on Feb 18, 2016 16:26:57 GMT -5
I was watching an interview with Lindsay Buckingham (guitarist from Fleetwood Mac) and he was asked what work he is most proud of. His response was that it was the stuff he did on Tusk (the follow-up to Rumours) even though it flopped. That got me thinking how instead generally Noel seems to follow the general public opinion on his albums rather than have any of his own. Maybe it's just coincidence but the two albums which are generally dismissed by the public and critics (BHN and SOTSOG) are also dismissed as being shit by Noel and vice-versa the three albums which are considered the best (DM, MG and DBTT) are also his three favourites. The only differences he seems to share are on HC which he appears to like but then again even that sold well. It's obviously his opinion but it'd be nice to hear him say something which doesn't follow general consensus More than that I often get the feeling that having written,completely or in part,all those records (and so being closer to them more than each one of us will ever be emotionally speaking) he just can't fully separate the music from whatever he was going through in his life I agree 100%, I'll never be able to fully understand as I'm not a songwriter but he does seem to reflect his personal feelings on albums and songs too much. I understand Sotsog was a shit time for him professionally and especially personally but that isn't a reason to dismiss an entire collection of songs. On the flip side I get that Heathen Chemistry was a happier time for him in the band and in his personal life but it doesn't make it a better album. You get the impression he likes She is Love etc because of his memories writing it rather than objectively as a piece of music. But annoying as a fan that great pieces of music Roll It Over and Where Did It All Go Wrong? Get brushed under the carpet and called moments to forget just because he no longer feels that way. |
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Post by Flatulence Panic on Feb 18, 2016 16:43:53 GMT -5
Rock 'n' Roll Star the ultimate fuck off mate, on yer bike son, middle finger to the world tune, in the world!
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Post by Flatulence Panic on Feb 18, 2016 16:48:51 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2016 18:30:13 GMT -5
More than that I often get the feeling that having written,completely or in part,all those records (and so being closer to them more than each one of us will ever be emotionally speaking) he just can't fully separate the music from whatever he was going through in his life I agree 100%, I'll never be able to fully understand as I'm not a songwriter but he does seem to reflect his personal feelings on albums and songs too much. I understand Sotsog was a shit time for him professionally and especially personally but that isn't a reason to dismiss an entire collection of songs. On the flip side I get that Heathen Chemistry was a happier time for him in the band and in his personal life but it doesn't make it a better album. You get the impression he likes She is Love etc because of his memories writing it rather than objectively as a piece of music. But annoying as a fan that great pieces of music Roll It Over and Where Did It All Go Wrong? Get brushed under the carpet and called moments to forget just because he no longer feels that way. That reminds me of this interview: Difficult to understand that this man can considered songs such as Whatever or the entire of Be Here Bow as shit, if it's not about personal reasons. Whatever is one of the finest piece of music he has ever written, though he has been sued for and had (and still have) to give credits to Innes. He can't stand it. Same goes for Be Here Now. The slag off it received, the fact that Noel knows he could have made that record even better, all of that hauts Noel nearly 20 years after. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2016 18:41:31 GMT -5
no good mate it appears that its only suitable for ages 5 and above..... |
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Post by Aman on Feb 18, 2016 18:52:40 GMT -5
Just lol at Noel's love for Force Of Nature.
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Post by World71R on Feb 18, 2016 22:35:12 GMT -5
The Shock of the Lightning is a masterpiece.
It's infectiously energetic, and all of the psychedelic sounds work well to build up a great atmosphere that the drum solo breaks up & loosens. From there on, it feels a little more light-hearted, which works perfectly in the context of the album to set up I'm Outta Time. There may have been many missed opportunities and mess-ups over the course of Oasis' run as a band, but TSOTL was definitely not one of them at all.
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Post by mystoryisgory on Feb 18, 2016 22:35:14 GMT -5
Noel saying that he loves Force of Nature is like John Lennon saying that he thinks Bungalow Bill is the best thing he ever did.
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Post by glider on Feb 18, 2016 23:04:39 GMT -5
Noel saying that he loves Force of Nature is like John Lennon saying that he thinks Bungalow Bill is the best thing he ever did. He still likes it btw:  |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Feb 19, 2016 0:10:26 GMT -5
I agree 100%, I'll never be able to fully understand as I'm not a songwriter but he does seem to reflect his personal feelings on albums and songs too much. I understand Sotsog was a shit time for him professionally and especially personally but that isn't a reason to dismiss an entire collection of songs. On the flip side I get that Heathen Chemistry was a happier time for him in the band and in his personal life but it doesn't make it a better album. You get the impression he likes She is Love etc because of his memories writing it rather than objectively as a piece of music. But annoying as a fan that great pieces of music Roll It Over and Where Did It All Go Wrong? Get brushed under the carpet and called moments to forget just because he no longer feels that way. That reminds me of this interview: Difficult to understand that this man can considered songs such as Whatever or the entire of Be Here Bow as shit, if it's not about personal reasons. Whatever is one of the finest piece of music he has ever written, though he has been sued for and had (and still have) to give credits to Innes. He can't stand it. Same goes for Be Here Now. The slag off it received, the fact that Noel knows he could have made that record even better, all of that hauts Noel nearly 20 years after. He can't hate it that much, as he still plays it live. |
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Post by beentherenow on Feb 19, 2016 4:01:40 GMT -5
Noel is really bipolar when it comes to Whatever more than any other song,
The way he speaks about it sometimes none more so than on the Lock The Box documentary you'd think he detests it with a passion,
Whereas he still plays it regularly and actually seems to really like it on Time Flies!
There should be nothing mixed about that song. It is pure genius and Noel should treat it as such!
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Post by beentherenow on Feb 19, 2016 4:17:56 GMT -5
I agree 100%, I'll never be able to fully understand as I'm not a songwriter but he does seem to reflect his personal feelings on albums and songs too much. I understand Sotsog was a shit time for him professionally and especially personally but that isn't a reason to dismiss an entire collection of songs. On the flip side I get that Heathen Chemistry was a happier time for him in the band and in his personal life but it doesn't make it a better album. You get the impression he likes She is Love etc because of his memories writing it rather than objectively as a piece of music. But annoying as a fan that great pieces of music Roll It Over and Where Did It All Go Wrong? Get brushed under the carpet and called moments to forget just because he no longer feels that way. That reminds me of this interview: Difficult to understand that this man can considered songs such as Whatever or the entire of Be Here Bow as shit, if it's not about personal reasons. Whatever is one of the finest piece of music he has ever written, though he has been sued for and had (and still have) to give credits to Innes. He can't stand it. Same goes for Be Here Now. The slag off it received, the fact that Noel knows he could have made that record even better, all of that hauts Noel nearly 20 years after. Yep, other artists don't seem to have this issue. I'm sure Damon Albarn doesn't still feel the same about Justine Frischman as he did in 1998 but that doesn't stop him performing 'No Distance Left to Run'. I wrote the below on this subject last year and I still feel the same, it's very frustrating ,
May 20, 2015 9:10:11 GMT beentherenow said:
Yeah I agree, that's why I said it was a strange one because songwriting by its very nature is personal so if he has bad memories then fair enough but I think Noel takes his vendetta out on entire periods of time and not just particular memories (I don't know that but that's what it seems like).
The analogy I like to use as I'm not a songwriter so I can try to relate is about Holidays (or Vacation is your from the 'other' side).
BHN is lads holiday to Magaluf when you're 20, was fucking great at the time but looking back when you're 35 you think what the fuck was I thinking?? You have good memories of it but you wouldn't do those things again. However does that mean you can't reminisce?
SOTSOG is a quiet romantic holiday to France or Italy. The only problem is you went with your Ex-missus who you now fucking hate. You argued the entire time and no matter how beautiful the scenery and lovely the hotel was you associate that place with her. Does it mean you can't recommend the hotel or resort to someone else? Not sure
HC is a caravan in Bognor Regis with some new mates. It rained the entire time, someone forgot the stereo and the bog didn't work however you found a pack of cards in one of the cupboards, 5 crates of extra strong Belgium beer and made the best of a bad situation and ended up having a laugh. You look back quite fondly despite it actually being rather shit,
Now many years later if someone said later can you compile a list of your favourite holiday moments ever. Most people would probably pick moments from all three (Chaos of one, scenery of an other with the camaraderie of the third) but Noel doesn't,
You might not think the above works but I kind of think it does
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Post by Flatulence Panic on Feb 19, 2016 16:08:47 GMT -5
TOTALLY FUCKING
MAD
FER
IT !!
Are you?
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Post by Flatulence Panic on Feb 19, 2016 17:07:44 GMT -5
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Post by jaq515 on Feb 19, 2016 17:14:51 GMT -5
horrendous cover if defo my thought of the day |
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Post by Flatulence Panic on Feb 19, 2016 17:18:09 GMT -5
THIS band is so important to me.
It's not just music anymore.
It's ingrained in my DNA as a person, as a human being.
It's the air I breathe, the steps I take, the way I live my life.
This band is ONE OF the most important thing in my world man.
It would mean the WORLD to me if Oasis reformed or at least Liam "the fucking MAN !!!!!!!!!" Gallagher would release some new music.
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Post by Adam on Feb 19, 2016 17:38:06 GMT -5
I've always loved Stay Young , but felt it was Be Here Now's Roll With It. It they'd gone ahead and released it instead of D'You Know What I Mean? I'm sure they'd be timeless debates on how Oasis had bottled it and gone with the easier choice.
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Post by jaq515 on Feb 19, 2016 17:44:43 GMT -5
I've always loved Stay Young , but felt it was Be Here Now's Roll With It. It they'd gone ahead and released it instead of D'You Know What I Mean? I'm sure they'd be timeless debates on how Oasis had bottled it and gone with the easier choice. Tbh while not official single and dont know the exact stats stay young was played lots as a radio single prior to BHN coming out (in uk at least). i do agree tho defo should've been an album track but guess after the Masterplan album they wanted to carry on the b sides as good a sides tradition |
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Post by Adam on Feb 19, 2016 17:55:09 GMT -5
I've always loved Stay Young , but felt it was Be Here Now's Roll With It. It they'd gone ahead and released it instead of D'You Know What I Mean? I'm sure they'd be timeless debates on how Oasis had bottled it and gone with the easier choice. Tbh while not official single and dont know the exact stats stay young was played lots as a radio single prior to BHN coming out (in uk at least). i do agree tho defo should've been an album track but guess after the Masterplan album they wanted to carry on the b sides as good a sides tradition I remember hearing it more on Radio 1 than the A side, which was weird at the time. It was a hell of a lot shorter and radio friendly though! |
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Post by jaq515 on Feb 19, 2016 18:01:56 GMT -5
Tbh while not official single and dont know the exact stats stay young was played lots as a radio single prior to BHN coming out (in uk at least). i do agree tho defo should've been an album track but guess after the Masterplan album they wanted to carry on the b sides as good a sides tradition I remember hearing it more on Radio 1 than the A side, which was weird at the time. It was a hell of a lot shorter and radio friendly though! without a doubt maybe after all the oasis mgt dissing they were pioneers of their time releasing 2 songs to get maximum airplay... or off course could've just exercised some sort of real mgt of singles etc. Guess shows how much control/influence the band had over proceedings |
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Post by Flatulence Panic on Feb 19, 2016 18:15:53 GMT -5
i had a dream last night I was in a crowd singing ROCK n ROLL STAR
this dream will become reality
one day
one day
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