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Post by defmaybe00 on Dec 4, 2015 10:53:42 GMT -5
I know it probably wouldn't have altered the fate of Chasing Yesterday in the charts but I'm really surprised "You Know We Can't Go Back" was never released as a single. Never say never  |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 4, 2015 10:55:50 GMT -5
I know it probably wouldn't have altered the fate of Chasing Yesterday in the charts but I'm really surprised "You Know We Can't Go Back" was never released as a single. Never say never Nothing is lamer than having 5-6 singles off an album that wasn't a huge mega selling monster. Even when Bruce Springsteen did it it's sorta like, "Come on now Bruce!". |
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Post by spaneli on Dec 4, 2015 10:57:43 GMT -5
What I was trying to say is that maybe they've been on tour/in the studio with other musicians for the best part of the last 4 months and as they haven't had much time to rehearse Noel,knowing how much of a "perfectionist" he is in this kind of situation,opted to not change the setlist yet This of course was just me trying to guess instead of going full cliff jump mode and declaring that Noel Gallagher is not going to change his setlist for the next 15 years Tim Smith on practicing with Noel (this was in preparation for the first tour): Did you do much rehearsing? We tweaked it a little bit and we rehearsed every day where we'd just run the set once and then he'd leave. We had a long time to kind of wrap our heads around what worked best and get it all sorted. Also, Mike Rowe I believe said that Noel essentially just plays the same 5-6 songs for soundchecks. He rarely changes even the soundcheck setlists. (This was said before a Paris gig, which I believe was a fairly intimate gig toward the beginning of the tour). While I do think Noel has a trick up his sleeve from time to time, I also think that the only thing holding Noel back from a setlist change is Noel, and sometimes the type of gig, such as a festival spot. But most of the guesses lobbied for do not make as much sense as Noel not being willing to do a little extra work and take a little bit more of a chance as universalgleam pointed to. First tour it was a bit understandable for him to be reserved in set list changes, but this tour, what's the excuse? |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Dec 4, 2015 11:33:45 GMT -5
What I was trying to say is that maybe they've been on tour/in the studio with other musicians for the best part of the last 4 months and as they haven't had much time to rehearse Noel,knowing how much of a "perfectionist" he is in this kind of situation,opted to not change the setlist yet This of course was just me trying to guess instead of going full cliff jump mode and declaring that Noel Gallagher is not going to change his setlist for the next 15 years Tim Smith on practicing with Noel (this was in preparation for the first tour): Did you do much rehearsing? We tweaked it a little bit and we rehearsed every day where we'd just run the set once and then he'd leave. We had a long time to kind of wrap our heads around what worked best and get it all sorted. Also, Mike Rowe I believe said that Noel essentially just plays the same 5-6 songs for soundchecks. He rarely changes even the soundcheck setlists. (This was said before a Paris gig, which I believe was a fairly intimate gig toward the beginning of the tour). While I do think Noel has a trick up his sleeve from time to time, I also think that the only thing holding Noel back from a setlist change is Noel, and sometimes the type of gig, such as a festival spot. But most of the guesses lobbied for do not make as much sense as Noel not being willing to do a little extra work and take a little bit more of a chance as universalgleam pointed to. First tour it was a bit understandable for him to be reserved in set list changes, but this tour, what's the excuse? I'm not disagreeing with you,we all know how Noel is..what I'm saying is give him time,I'm sure he'll change it next year (might even do it at the Albert Hall)...on the last tour he played Spaceman,Angel Child,A Simple Game Of Genius etc.,can't see why he shouldn't bring back a couple of old Oasis gems and less played/known HFB tunes this time as well... |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2015 11:59:24 GMT -5
Tim Smith on practicing with Noel (this was in preparation for the first tour): Did you do much rehearsing? We tweaked it a little bit and we rehearsed every day where we'd just run the set once and then he'd leave. We had a long time to kind of wrap our heads around what worked best and get it all sorted. Also, Mike Rowe I believe said that Noel essentially just plays the same 5-6 songs for soundchecks. He rarely changes even the soundcheck setlists. (This was said before a Paris gig, which I believe was a fairly intimate gig toward the beginning of the tour). While I do think Noel has a trick up his sleeve from time to time, I also think that the only thing holding Noel back from a setlist change is Noel, and sometimes the type of gig, such as a festival spot. But most of the guesses lobbied for do not make as much sense as Noel not being willing to do a little extra work and take a little bit more of a chance as universalgleam pointed to. First tour it was a bit understandable for him to be reserved in set list changes, but this tour, what's the excuse? I'm not disagreeing with you,we all know how Noel is..what I'm saying is give him time,I'm sure he'll change it next year (might even do it at the Albert Hall)...on the last tour he played Spaceman,Angel Child,A Simple Game Of Genius etc.,can't see why he shouldn't bring back a couple of old Oasis gems and less played/known HFB tunes this time as well... like I said though the fact he brought up the lack of reaction to oddities says to me that hes probably fallen into a hole now of only playing sure fire hits to get a good reaction, this whole tour to me has been pretty dule because of that, theres been no odd recordings of B sides or lesser known oasis tracks like last time, I hope he does but I think noel is just lazy most of the time and likely doesnt want to rehearse songs he knows probably will go down like a lead balloon, I mean why play ilders dream when champagne supernova gets people singing along? to a casual fan, idlers dream etc is going to bore you, noel seems to cater towards the more casual fan nowadays so the setlists dont get much spice because the casual fan is only too happy to hear the standard ones like DLBIA. and I get it, a track hardly anyone knows within a gig is going to stall the energy so it makes sense from his perspective to stick to hits. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Dec 4, 2015 12:53:53 GMT -5
It was a short gig, what did people expect? Of course he didn't change it. And there's probably not a lot that will change, but who knows.
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Post by mkoasis on Dec 4, 2015 21:38:50 GMT -5
like I said though the fact he brought up the lack of reaction to oddities says to me that hes probably fallen into a hole now of only playing sure fire hits to get a good reaction I worry about this too. That said, they should have seen the reaction on this forum when Angel Child, Spaceman, Shout It Out Loud, LDSMD were played! |
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Post by ccd204p on Dec 6, 2015 3:50:39 GMT -5
like I said though the fact he brought up the lack of reaction to oddities says to me that hes probably fallen into a hole now of only playing sure fire hits to get a good reaction I worry about this too. That said, they should have seen the reaction on this forum when Angel Child, Spaceman, Shout It Out Loud, LDSMD were played! Pity the reaction in Belfast to Shout It Out Loud and Alone On A Rope was near silence  However, the reaction to Shout It Out Loud and Lord Don't Slow It Down at the RAH in 2013 was much better. Maybe Noel needs to pick and choose where he does the rarer stuff. As for Glasgow on Tuesday, there's more chance of Liam singing the gig than Noel playing anything rare in his 4 songs. |
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Post by headshrinker1979 on Dec 6, 2015 7:31:59 GMT -5
I think putting a setlist together is very crowd dependant, festival gigs and more commercial gigs like the BBC gig on Monday/Radio X gig, when it's more competition winners and very casual fans in the crowd than bona fide fans should see the standard set with "the hits". As said above these types of gigs are for the more casual fan, throwing in rarer B sides at these gigs of course are not going to have a great reaction from the majority of the crowd. NGHFB gigs i personally think should be the places to throw in rarer tracks as generally these gigs are "his crowd" and a lot of people will really LOVE hearing different tracks to the usual ones trotted out time after time. I am sure it is difficult to get that balance right, keeping old fans happy while not alienating newer fans who wouldn't necessarily know much of his back catalogue of tunes, ler alone rare B sides. Hearing the likes of Idlers Dream, Shout It Out Loud and Lord Don't Slow Me Down at gigs for me made those gigs special, just a shame it doesn't happen more often! I do agree i think he has fallen into the trap of playing the same songs every gig to get a reaction, but it easy to say that knowing all of his material really well, if he trying to capture new fans once he has them at the gigs then of course the hits off the 2 solo albums will be played first and foremost with a selection of old Oasis hits that they may know as well. That said tho it is an opportinity to throw in Rarities to get new fans to hear them and then realise that he has a huge back catalogue of amazing songs. I can see the logic of not changing it up often, personally to me it's annoying yes but i can totally see why it happens. All of that said i really want a couple of different tracks for the RAH gig!!
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Post by jsk on Dec 7, 2015 16:55:36 GMT -5
All of that said i really want a couple of different tracks for the RAH gig!! Said tonight, that the set would be pretty much the same as last time he played there, but he might play a couple of New (Old Oasis) Songs. |
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However, the reaction to Shout It Out Loud and Lord Don't Slow It Down at the RAH in 2013 was much better. Maybe Noel needs to pick and choose where he does the rarer stuff. As for Glasgow on Tuesday, there's more chance of Liam singing the gig than Noel playing anything rare in his 4 songs.
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