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Post by World71R on Sept 21, 2015 17:43:15 GMT -5
By the way, to everyone saying Heathen Chemistry is better than Chasing Yesterday, or anything that Noel had any part in penning post-2002, I really want the stuff you're ingesting (not smoking, fuck that) that makes you think that way because that aforementioned statement is preposterous.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Sept 21, 2015 17:58:08 GMT -5
Heathen Chemistry seems to be nearly universally reviled on this forum and I don't get it. Granted, A Quick Peep is terrible but there are four awful songs (Little James, Put Yer Money Where Yer Mouth Is, Where Did It All Go Wrong? and I Can See A Liar)on SOTSOG and I don't hate that record. Heathen Chemistry is a good album. It is not my favorite, but I like it. Also: Force of Nature Hung In A Bad Place A Quick Peep Probably All in the Mind She Is Love Better Man And the fact that they had the gall to have us wait 30 minutes to listen to The Cage says it all. I don't even know what The Cage sounds like as the first (and last) time I've heard it was in 2002. No exaggeration. Shit album. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2015 18:00:37 GMT -5
I just think he'll plateau. Not much better or worse. i have to agree. not that that's a bad thing. he's set the bar pretty high with 'cashing yesterday', in my opinion. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Sept 21, 2015 18:00:26 GMT -5
By the way, to everyone saying Heathen Chemistry is better than Chasing Yesterday, or anything that Noel had any part in penning post-2002, I really want the stuff you're ingesting (not smoking, fuck that) that makes you think that way because that aforementioned statement is preposterous. 's been smoking cherry cola. |
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Post by johnwesleyharding on Sept 21, 2015 21:09:12 GMT -5
Heathen Chemistry seems to be nearly universally reviled on this forum and I don't get it. Granted, A Quick Peep is terrible but there are four awful songs (Little James, Put Yer Money Where Yer Mouth Is, Where Did It All Go Wrong? and I Can See A Liar)on SOTSOG and I don't hate that record. Heathen Chemistry is a good album. It is not my favorite, but I like it. Also: Force of Nature Hung In A Bad Place A Quick Peep Probably All in the Mind She Is Love Better Man And the fact that they had the gall to have us wait 30 minutes to listen to The Cage says it all. I don't even know what The Cage sounds like as the first (and last) time I've heard it was in 2002. No exaggeration. Shit album. The Cage is great. Play that immediately followed by Can Y'See It Now? (I Can See It Now!!) when you have a nice Cherry Cola buzz going, it'll change your life. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2015 1:26:17 GMT -5
Heathen Chemistry seems to be nearly universally reviled on this forum and I don't get it. Granted, A Quick Peep is terrible but there are four awful songs (Little James, Put Yer Money Where Yer Mouth Is, Where Did It All Go Wrong? and I Can See A Liar)on SOTSOG and I don't hate that record. Heathen Chemistry is a good album. It is not my favorite, but I like it. Where Did it All Go Wrong? is a class song. The point for me is there isn't a single song on Heathen Chemistry I really like and a whole bunch of songs I really dislike. For its faults, SOTSOG has Fuckin' in the Bushes, Go Let it Out, Who Feels Love?, Gas Panic, Where Did it All Go Wrong? and Roll it Over to keep bringing me back. Heathen Chemistry has nothing. |
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Sept 22, 2015 9:05:31 GMT -5
I think that Chasing Yesterday really is a promising record for the future. You can't really compare those songs with Oasis albums, but especially HC, DBTT and DOYS were kind of exploring the same old formula that worked so well for them so there was no point in changing it. Chasing Yesterday was kind of what i expected from HFB # 1, which was a good album, but Noel didn't seemed to leave his comfort zone yet then. This one is much more vital and this is probably why people get this feeling that it's his best since MG or something. I don't think you should compare the two though. Afterall Oasis and NGHFB, musically, are very different things. I think the comparisons are somewhat reasonable because the NGHFB album is like Definitely Maybe in the way that the sound varies at some places, with some really good tunes and the ground work laid for what's to come, while CY is more like (What's the Story) Morning Glory? with how it's more experimental than the previous album, and it sounds like the band (or Noel, in the case of the solo project) is coming into their own with the sound, moreso than what was shown previously. I dunno, I'm probably over-analyzing this, but I will say that CY is Noel's best batch of songs since DBTT, and that was his best best batch of songs since MG, but what's different about this time around is that it sounds fresh and different. That's something Noel hasn't worked with in a while, and I'm happy he's doing that. Yeah, I think it's fair to say that CY is Noel's best collection of songs since DBTT, but you can't really go further with that because as great as CY is, you can't say those songs are better than some of the greatest Oasis hits that you can find on every single Oasis album except DOYS maybe. Even Heathen Chemistry got Stop Crying Your Heart Out and Little By Little. Those are hit singles. Noel as a songwriter is now in the place i wanted him to be since he left Oasis and it's great, but i just think that saying it's his best work since MG or something is a bit disrespectful for almost 20 years of his journey as a musician. People always gonna complain about HC or whatever, but reallly the facts are, anytime Noel Gallagher puts out a record we get a few killer tracks from it. And it's guaranteed. The problem we as fans had for the last decade was that we used to get 5 Noels songs on an album. Noel probably never really lost it, he was just releasing LAG songs instead of his own for some bizarre reason. Chasing Yesterday is where it's finally at and i think he's gonna be alright as a songwriter for the next decade at least. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Sept 22, 2015 9:21:50 GMT -5
I can't compare the two of them anyway. Actually, they're two different bands with slightly different music, even though they have the same songwriter.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Sept 22, 2015 13:39:52 GMT -5
I think he already has and it's called Chasing Yesterday, from the useless cover to the generic/safe and mostly drab contents. I don't get Noel and I don't get most of you folks either. The Good Rebel & Simple Game Of Genius are better than anything on his first album save for Stop The Clocks. Then comes Chasing Yesterday and he does it again. I like Here's A Candle, Leave My Guitar Alone & Do The Damage better than anything he put on the album save for the song everyone here seems to revile, The Mexican. That's a good little tune. It and Do The Damage should've been the singles. Either I know nothing or it's you guys who know nothing. Due to bias I'm guessing it's you guys who know nothing but then again what do I know, I'm a friggin' American............. I was worried nobody had said CY was shit yet,thanks mate |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Sept 22, 2015 14:04:31 GMT -5
Let the trolls starve.
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Sept 22, 2015 16:19:52 GMT -5
I think Noel has found his stride regarding solo albums - he uses old and new material, cherry picks the 10 songs he thinks sound best together while always keeping some for the next record (like Come On It's Alright and Don't Stop, which I expect to be on album #3). HC happened during a time where he had little old material left and the structure within the band was changing; it also was his fastest album since 2000 with only 2 years between SOTSOG and HC.
I'd expect that the way he is writing and recording at the moment there really isn't a way the next album won't be another good one.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Sept 22, 2015 18:07:35 GMT -5
I think he already has and it's called Chasing Yesterday, from the useless cover to the generic/safe and mostly drab contents. I don't get Noel and I don't get most of you folks either. The Good Rebel & Simple Game Of Genius are better than anything on his first album save for Stop The Clocks. Then comes Chasing Yesterday and he does it again. I like Here's A Candle, Leave My Guitar Alone & Do The Damage better than anything he put on the album save for the song everyone here seems to revile, The Mexican. That's a good little tune. It and Do The Damage should've been the singles. Either I know nothing or it's you guys who know nothing. Due to bias I'm guessing it's you guys who know nothing but then again what do I know, I'm a friggin' American............. I bet you dig The Nature of Reality, too. lolz |
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Post by mossy on Sept 23, 2015 1:07:34 GMT -5
Are the people voting zero saying that Chasing Yesterday is Noel's shit album ;-P
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Post by carlober on Sept 23, 2015 3:01:39 GMT -5
Heathen Chemistry seems to be nearly universally reviled on this forum and I don't get it. Granted, A Quick Peep is terrible but there are four awful songs (Little James, Put Yer Money Where Yer Mouth Is, Where Did It All Go Wrong? and I Can See A Liar)on SOTSOG and I don't hate that record. Heathen Chemistry is a good album. It is not my favorite, but I like it. Where Did It All Go Wrong, awful? That must be a typo. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Sept 23, 2015 17:27:38 GMT -5
Could be the next one, could be three down the line, could be never. If Mccartney, Lennon, Dylan and the stones are capable of putting out utter shite then Noel is as well. I'm not sure he will go as low as the others though as he seems quite content with playing it incredibly safe.
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Post by mystoryisgory on Sept 23, 2015 18:01:54 GMT -5
Are the people voting zero saying that Chasing Yesterday is Noel's shit album ;-P If that's the case then maybe I should add a "-1" to the poll too!  |
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