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Post by eva Fawkes on Jul 20, 2016 13:49:34 GMT -5
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Post by mystoryisgory on Jul 20, 2016 19:34:40 GMT -5
Anyone watching Colbert this week? He's been brilliant, pretty much ripping the convention apart.  |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 20, 2016 22:01:42 GMT -5
Republican National Convention
I just watched Mike Pence's VP speech, as I - like most - knew nothing about him. And I have to say, I like his style. I think Trump has made a good pick.
And yes, I'm firmly on the Trump/Pence bandwagon.
It's easy to laugh at Trump and his campaign by only seeing the caricature. There's a lot more to this movement than people realize - not saying he will win, but I'm not saying he will category lose, either.
Make America Great Again. God Bless.
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Post by Manualex on Jul 20, 2016 22:12:43 GMT -5
Republican National Convention I just watched Mike Pence's VP speech, as I - like most - knew nothing about him. And I have to say, I like his style. I think Trump has made a good pick. And yes, I'm firmly on the Trump/Pence bandwagon. It's easy to laugh at Trump and his campaign by only seeing the caricature. There's a lot more to this movement than people realize - not saying he will win, but I'm not saying he will category lose, either. Make America Great Again. God Bless. I wonder where did you go wrong. |
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Post by Binary Sunset on Jul 20, 2016 22:12:48 GMT -5
Republican National Convention I just watched Mike Pence's VP speech, as I - like most - knew nothing about him. And I have to say, I like his style. I think Trump has made a good pick. And yes, I'm firmly on the Trump/Pence bandwagon. It's easy to laugh at Trump and his campaign by only seeing the caricature. There's a lot more to this movement than people realize - not saying he will win, but I'm not saying he will category lose, either. Make America Great Again. God Bless. There is a lot more to it than Trump being a caricature. And it's all bad. Not only is he a racist, lying, hate-spewing, ego driven caricature. He also doesn't compose himself in any way presidential, is not qualified and also doesn't know anything about how actual government works. There's a reason he never gives specific ways he's going to do anything. It's because he doesn't know. He's trying to channel a voter base that is looking for people to blame for problems, rather than look for real solutions. Now I'm not particularly happy about the other options either, but Trump is not what we need. He needs to go back to being a ridiculous reality television host making up stupid reasons for firing people, while stroking his enormous ego. I enjoyed that. |
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Post by Binary Sunset on Jul 20, 2016 22:15:26 GMT -5
Republican National Convention I just watched Mike Pence's VP speech, as I - like most - knew nothing about him. And I have to say, I like his style. I think Trump has made a good pick. And yes, I'm firmly on the Trump/Pence bandwagon. It's easy to laugh at Trump and his campaign by only seeing the caricature. There's a lot more to this movement than people realize - not saying he will win, but I'm not saying he will category lose, either. Make America Great Again. God Bless. Also, you do know one of the main reasons Pence agreed to the nomination, was because Indiana most likely wasn't going to be reelected. He is unpopular in his own state. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 20, 2016 22:40:19 GMT -5
In 2024, I'll run for president with the ambition of Making America British Again.
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Post by spaneli on Jul 21, 2016 1:27:57 GMT -5
The convention is typically the high water mark for a campaign. Yes, in July, it is the high water mark. Typically each candidate will get a post convention bump. This convention has been a complete and utter bust (worst than last year, and last year Clint Eastwood talked to an empty chair). Trump may receive a minor bounce from it, but if he's only slightly ahead of Clinton after the convention, then he will most likely lose (unless a major scandal happens or the economy takes a downward spiral).Trump's bump will only be temporary and he will likely fall behind Clinton in the polls. Because as I said, Hillary just had the worst two weeks of her campaign and Trump will have had what should be his biggest bump. If he's only slightly ahead, then it's difficult to surmise a scenario where he stays ahead and wins.
Hillary will recover from Trump's bounce and have her own convention, where she'll most likely receive a much larger bump. She'll have Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, Joe Biden, Obama, her VP nom, Bill Clinton, and herself speaking. That is a political A-list of political A-lists. Her bump will also recede, but with that much momentum, she may keep a little bit of that bump.
The other issue for Trump is that, in the end, the presidential nominee NEEDS down ballot support. He is not receiving much. Lower level republicans are too afraid to fully embrace him. That won't be the case with Hillary. Also, Hillary will have two popular former/current presidents stumping for her, and a popular running mate, and popular opponent, Sanders.
While Trump's movement was certainly born of something. One could make the case that an opponent like Trump was always in the cards. The Republican base has been splintering and the rise of Trump could simply be a by-product. Remember, a general is different from a primary. It's a lot easier to win with only getting 38-43% of the vote. In the general, that's a blow-put. Also, it's a lot more difficult to win when it's a one-on-one match-up rather than a plurality of candidates. I don't think Trump would have made it this far if his opponents had taken him more seriously earlier. By the time they took him seriously it was too late. And by the time it became a one-on-one battle in the primary, it was too late. The element of surprise isn't on Trump's side this time. Hillary is very well aware of Trump. She'll be more prepared, with more money, with more party luminaries, with more down ballot support, with a good economy, and a popular incumbent on her side. While those things do not say a blow-out, they do say that she will most likely win.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2016 8:46:45 GMT -5
watching the 'highlights' from last night. i never liked ted cruz but only now do i realize what a complete and utter jackwagon the guy is.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2016 9:31:09 GMT -5
watching the 'highlights' from last night. i never liked ted cruz but only now do i realize what a complete and utter jackwagon the guy is.  |
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Post by batfink30 on Jul 21, 2016 12:26:10 GMT -5
watching the 'highlights' from last night. i never liked ted cruz but only now do i realize what a complete and utter jackwagon the guy is.  |
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Post by As You Built The Moon on Jul 21, 2016 16:19:06 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2016 16:50:24 GMT -5
here's what's going on: cruz wants hillary to win so he can set himself up to run again in 2020.
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Post by spaneli on Jul 21, 2016 22:27:34 GMT -5
here's what's going on: cruz wants hillary to win so he can set himself up to run again in 2020. Not a bad strategy. Why would any Republican REALLY want Trump to win? He's not an actual Republican, he's a wild card on every issue, he won't be beholden to Republican ideals or his base, he doesn't care about lower ballot Republican (House and Senate), and it's not clear how a Trump win would actually help the Republican party. Lastly, if Trump wins then he may screw over every upcoming Republican candidate over the next generation. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 21, 2016 22:38:47 GMT -5
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Post by Binary Sunset on Jul 21, 2016 22:41:18 GMT -5
Ha, I actually thought of this scene when watching people eat up the fear mongering that Trump was putting out! |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 21, 2016 22:43:54 GMT -5
Ha, I actually thought of this scene when watching people eat up the fear mongering that Trump was putting out! So many parts that made me sad as an America. Stop immigration, build walls, back out of trade agreements, bring troops back to the Middle East............. |
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Post by mystoryisgory on Jul 22, 2016 0:32:55 GMT -5
watching the 'highlights' from last night. i never liked ted cruz but only now do i realize what a complete and utter jackwagon the guy is. Only now you realize that? C'mon bro!  |
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Post by eva Fawkes on Jul 23, 2016 15:19:47 GMT -5
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 25, 2016 20:04:31 GMT -5
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 25, 2016 20:19:39 GMT -5
here's what's going on: cruz wants hillary to win so he can set himself up to run again in 2020. Lastly, if Trump wins then he may screw over every upcoming Republican candidate over the next generation. People said the same thing after W. Bush's presidency, where its taken only 3 cycles (potentially) to regain the WH - Mitt Romney of whom, would have won if he if wasn't facing an incumbent. Also, the GOP convention must have done well, first CNN Convention bounce since Bush/Gore: www.cnn.com/2016/07/25/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-poll/index.html |
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Post by eva Fawkes on Jul 25, 2016 20:53:58 GMT -5
Donald Trump has less of a chance of winning the presidency than a fucking Mormon.......think about that. Keep posting all your goofy shit, you and everyone else....all your stupid fucking numbers, straw polls, or whatever they're called.....I don't know all the other stupid fucking lingo...... Hillary Cinton's gonna win, like I said months ago....I should be a prophet, I guess, or have an I.Q. higher than a garden hose..... Thanks. |
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Post by spaneli on Jul 25, 2016 22:43:21 GMT -5
Lastly, if Trump wins then he may screw over every upcoming Republican candidate over the next generation. People said the same thing after W. Bush's presidency, where its taken only 3 cycles (potentially) to regain the WH - Mitt Romney of whom, would have won if he if wasn't facing an incumbent. Also, the GOP convention must have done well, first CNN Convention bounce since Bush/Gore: www.cnn.com/2016/07/25/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-poll/index.htmlWhat? Haha The GOP is still suffering from the Bush era. If the GOP loses to the most beatable democratic nominee in recent memory, that's all you have to know. Actually, the fact this race is even close and Trump is the nominee says that the GOP is still suffering from the Bush era. If they lose, it will be a minimum four cycles since they have won. And that party will be at more of a crossroads than in 2008. |
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Post by batfink30 on Jul 26, 2016 5:46:42 GMT -5
Trump will romp it.
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Post by RocketMan on Jul 26, 2016 8:40:02 GMT -5
Anyone watching Colbert this week? He's been brilliant, pretty much ripping the convention apart. Hes brilliant. His "trump or false" at the republican convention was funny and sad to see at the same time. |
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