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Post by The Escapist on Nov 21, 2018 13:35:54 GMT -5
X&Y1) Square One 2) White Shadows 3) Fix You 4) Talk 5) Speed of Sound 6) A Message 7) The Hardest Part 8) Low 9) Swallowed in the Sea 10) Gravity 11) Twisted Logic 12) Till Kingdom Come That's the best I can do with X&Y. It's funny because I like all those songs individually but the overall album just can't help but feel a bit drab - they needed to incorporate the space-y sound they wanted in a much more colourful way than "just splash a synth on there and call it a day". In all honestly, it's the Coldplay album I listen to the least - thankfully they came back with a true masterpiece in Viva la Vida or Death and All His Friends. Swallowed In the Sea is one of their worst songs ever. Those lyrics are cringe worthy to say it nicely. I mean what the fuck Chris??? I was ok with no Gravity on the album despite loving it while they toured it live during the AROBTTH tour. However the song is too samey and predictable for the band in 2005. Way too safe and a copy of the cliche Coldplay sad piano song. Chris can write a song like this in his sleep. Same goes for the piano version of Lost. If that came out in 2000 or 2002, awesome. But In 2008 no way. Glad it went in a better, more exciting direction. Also pour one out for Ladder To The Sun. We all thought it was gonna be the crowning achievement of album 3. Doesn’t make the album and hasn’t been heard of since. Loved it live. Eh, Swallowed in the Sea has shit lyrics but a very nice melody and it flows incredibly nicely on the album. Good bridge between Low and Gravity, both of which are excellent tracks and should definitely have been included. |
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Post by clueso on Nov 21, 2018 13:41:20 GMT -5
Swallowed in the Sea is another very good example for a song much better live than on the record. Speed of Sound is the total opposite. Its great but live they never got it right.Except the acoustic one during their last both touring.
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Post by clueso on Nov 21, 2018 13:43:44 GMT -5
What i really love about Viva is the fact its so harmoniously. Every song exactly seems to be where its meant to be.
Violet Hill is one of my Top 3 Coldplay songs and i wished they had done more like this after. Major Minus was an opportunity but they missed it. It sounded so amazing the first time i heard it live at Rock am Ring. Their costumes in the Viva era have been the best so far. Genuinely might be my favourite album ever*. All the beauty, mystery, and emotion in it is just incredible, and the creativity the band showed was ideal, a real 10/10 in my book. *Of course, there's Beatles, Dylan. Radiohead, Kanye, Neutral Milk Hotel, Oasis, and Sigur Ros albums all vying for that spot too. Not to forget jewels like Glass of Water and Prospekts March....amazing tunes |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 21, 2018 14:19:37 GMT -5
Never dug Cemeteries of London. Not in 2008. Not in 2018. The only weak link for me and it comes so so early.
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Post by The Escapist on Nov 21, 2018 14:35:30 GMT -5
Cemeteries of London is easily one of my favourite Coldplay songs ever. Beautiful song all the way through, and the contrast between that and Life in Technicolour is such a creative way of kicking off their best album.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 21, 2018 14:54:54 GMT -5
Cemeteries of London is easily one of my favourite Coldplay songs ever. Beautiful song all the way through, and the contrast between that and Life in Technicolour is such a creative way of kicking off their best album. That’s another one I wish they went another direction. Life is better with the vocals. Fantastic song. God damn Brian Eno suggesting it should be an instrumental to me didn’t age well. If given a choice I’ll always go Technicolor II over the Viva. |
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Post by The Escapist on Nov 21, 2018 14:59:21 GMT -5
Cemeteries of London is easily one of my favourite Coldplay songs ever. Beautiful song all the way through, and the contrast between that and Life in Technicolour is such a creative way of kicking off their best album. That’s another one I wish they went another direction. Life is better with the vocals. Fantastic song. God damn Brian Eno suggesting it should be an instrumental to me didn’t age well. If given a choice I’ll always go Technicolor II over the Viva. Absolutely no chance. The full "song" version turns it into just another Coldplay song with a riff, robs the track of all it's mystery; the album version sounds like sunlight dripping off some historical sky, the EP version sounds like a track made for radio. Eno saved the song, and the band. Viva is perfection. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 21, 2018 15:03:52 GMT -5
That’s another one I wish they went another direction. Life is better with the vocals. Fantastic song. God damn Brian Eno suggesting it should be an instrumental to me didn’t age well. If given a choice I’ll always go Technicolor II over the Viva. Absolutely no chance. The full "song" version turns it into just another Coldplay song with a riff, robs the track of all it's mystery; the album version sounds like sunlight dripping off some historical sky, the EP version sounds like a track made for radio. Eno saved the song, and the band. Viva is perfection. I think Phil Harvey saved the band per usual. |
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Post by The Escapist on Nov 21, 2018 15:12:16 GMT -5
Incredible, beautiful opening. Without doubt their best album.
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Post by clueso on Nov 21, 2018 15:48:56 GMT -5
But Politik remains unbeaten as their best opener.
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Post by jordan71421 on Nov 21, 2018 15:51:30 GMT -5
But Politik remains unbeaten as their best opener. Bingo!!! A Rush of Blood to the Head still stands as my favorite album from them. Love the mood of it. |
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Post by andybellwillring on Nov 21, 2018 15:55:04 GMT -5
X&Y1) Square One 2) White Shadows 3) Fix You 4) Talk 5) Speed of Sound 6) A Message 7) The Hardest Part 8) Low 9) Swallowed in the Sea 10) Gravity 11) Twisted Logic 12) Till Kingdom Come That's the best I can do with X&Y. It's funny because I like all those songs individually but the overall album just can't help but feel a bit drab - they needed to incorporate the space-y sound they wanted in a much more colourful way than "just splash a synth on there and call it a day". In all honestly, it's the Coldplay album I listen to the least - thankfully they came back with a true masterpiece in Viva la Vida or Death and All His Friends. Swallowed In the Sea is one of their worst songs ever. Those lyrics are cringe worthy to say it nicely. I mean what the fuck Chris??? I was ok with no Gravity on the album despite loving it while they toured it live during the AROBTTH tour. However the song is too samey and predictable for the band in 2005. Way too safe and a copy of the cliche Coldplay sad piano song. Chris can write a song like this in his sleep. Same goes for the piano version of Lost. If that came out in 2000 or 2002, awesome. But In 2008 no way. Glad it went in a better, more exciting direction. Also pour one out for Ladder To The Sun. We all thought it was gonna be the crowning achievement of album 3. Doesn’t make the album and hasn’t been heard of since. Loved it live. Loved Swallowed in the sea when i was 14. Thankfully I have since realised it's baaaaaad. |
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Post by andybellwillring on Nov 21, 2018 15:59:35 GMT -5
But Politik remains unbeaten as their best opener. Don't Panic is the one for me, even though I'm not really a fan of Parachutes. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 21, 2018 19:12:10 GMT -5
But Politik remains unbeaten as their best opener. Bingo!!! A Rush of Blood to the Head still stands as my favorite album from them. Love the mood of it. Couldn’t agree more. Came out at just the right age for me, 21. It’s simplistic, direct and honest. Doesn’t feel bloated in any way unlike X&Y three years later when they sorta threw the kitchen sink at many many songs. Sure people will say Viva was their pinnacle but for me it will always be A Rush. That is their apex mountain. Global superstars born. |
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Post by matt on Nov 21, 2018 19:55:06 GMT -5
Never dug Cemeteries of London. Not in 2008. Not in 2018. The only weak link for me and it comes so so early. Got to admit it’s one of my very very favourite Coldplay songs. I think it’s quite a haunting tune and the Victorian London imagery really drives it home for me. Strawberry Swing from VLV is just stunningly beautiful too. By no means the alt rock vibe of the first three, more pop perfection and proved to me that Chris Martin is a great writer of pop when he really puts all his creativity into it. I think VLV is a very eclectic album full of diverse influences yet somehow manages to be coherent at the same time, and I think it’s largely down to the fact every single song is just achingly beautiful in its own way. There’s a dreaminess and other worldly aspect to it that makes it so unique. Perhaps nostalgia plays a part in my love of it, but then again I don’t have much affection for albums like Forth and Dig Out Your Soul from that year so I have to put it down quite simply to its timeless appeal. |
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Post by matt on Nov 21, 2018 19:56:56 GMT -5
But Politik remains unbeaten as their best opener. One of the greatest outros ever in music. Ever. |
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Post by glider on Nov 22, 2018 2:00:11 GMT -5
The same man that co-wrote:
Politik
Clocks
A Rush of Blood To The Head
Spies
God Put A Smile On Upon Your Face
Daylight
Crests of Waves
Also is credited on stellar tracks such as....(drumroll)
Hymn For The Weekend
Fun
Amazing Day
Something Just Like This
There is no excuse for this. How unprecended is such a dramatic shift in music like this to happen to anyone? Sure Richard as a solo artist compared to the cosmic shaman from the early 90s is striking, but going from deep, introspective lyricism to...whatever he does now, is freakish. I mean, at a point in time, he was a far better songwriter than the likes of Adam Levine, who he tries to duplicate. He very well could've been the next great British songwriter in a long line of others before him, but faltered. I just can't believe what happened to this guy.
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Post by glider on Nov 22, 2018 2:04:51 GMT -5
That’s another one I wish they went another direction. Life is better with the vocals. Fantastic song. God damn Brian Eno suggesting it should be an instrumental to me didn’t age well. If given a choice I’ll always go Technicolor II over the Viva. Absolutely no chance. The full "song" version turns it into just another Coldplay song with a riff, robs the track of all it's mystery; the album version sounds like sunlight dripping off some historical sky, the EP version sounds like a track made for radio. Eno saved the song, and the band. Viva is perfection. I made an edit a while ago that combined the album version and the EP version - I really like it. I get what you mean though - the pure instrumental has an ominous feel. |
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Post by Jack on Nov 22, 2018 5:05:22 GMT -5
The same man that co-wrote: Politik Clocks A Rush of Blood To The Head Spies God Put A Smile On Upon Your Face Daylight Crests of Waves Also is credited on stellar tracks such as....(drumroll) Hymn For The Weekend Fun Amazing Day Something Just Like This There is no excuse for this. How unprecended is such a dramatic shift in music like this to happen to anyone? Sure Richard as a solo artist compared to the cosmic shaman from the early 90s is striking, but going from deep, introspective lyricism to...whatever he does now, is freakish. I mean, at a point in time, he was a far better songwriter than the likes of Adam Levine, who he tries to duplicate. He very well could've been the next great British songwriter in a long line of others before him, but faltered. I just can't believe what happened to this guy. Coldplay are both one of my most loved and most hated bands. 'Parachutes' and 'AROBTTH' are amongst my favourite albums/b-sides of all time, and I deeply love those first Coldplay years. 'X&Y' is ok, not bad at all. Everything after that though, complete shite garbage. I mean, what have they become? Dancing around in gaudy colours and flogging electrical products via CGI chimps! I honestly haven't bothered to listen to anything recent they have done, so if anyone can suggest any tracks they have done post-X&Y that sound like their earlier years, I would be interested to know what they are. |
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Post by lahaine on Nov 22, 2018 17:00:06 GMT -5
Is that the title of the Documentary then lol. I love peak Coldplay, but if there is a band who don't need a documentary made on them it's Coldplay. They are most safe band that have ever been created, one of the reasons a lot of people dislike them. At least with Oasis you had the drugs and fallouts thrown in with the good music, with U2 with the making of Achtung Baby is one of the most interesting Reinventions of a band in rock and made for a great documentary as the band went through shit to get there. Coldplay aside from Martin's crap with his ex wife, what hardship's have they got to speak off, what reinventions have they gone through. I skip that documentary. For me along with Kings of Leon, I never seen a band sell out as quick as Martin and co. They went from one of the most misunderstood great bands out there to one who went for quick dollar and became the uncool band that many during their peak fought for them to say they weren't agaisnt the haters. Most interesting about them these days is how is Martin getting all these good looking actresses into his bed. Coldplay could have been the new U2 but instead they ended up the new Simple Minds. anyway for me this is rank of their albums 1. Viva La Vida 2. A Rush of blood To the Head 3. Parachutes 4. B-sides from first 2 albums 5. X & Y 6. Ghost Stories 7. Mylo Xyloto 8. A Head Full of Selling Out. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 22, 2018 17:20:09 GMT -5
Is that the title of the Documentary then lol. I love peak Coldplay, but if there is a band who don't need a documentary made on them it's Coldplay. They are most safe band that have ever been created, one of the reasons a lot of people dislike them. At least with Oasis you had the drugs and fallouts thrown in with the good music, with U2 with the making of Achtung Baby is one of the most interesting Reinventions of a band in rock and made for a great documentary as the band went through shit to get there. Coldplay aside from Martin's crap with his ex wife, what hardship's have they got to speak off, what reinventions have they gone through. I skip that documentary. For me along with Kings of Leon, I never seen a band sell out as quick as Martin and co. They went from one of the most misunderstood great bands out there to one who went for quick dollar and became the uncool band that many during their peak fought for them to say they weren't agaisnt the haters. Most interesting about them these days is how is Martin getting all these good looking actresses into his bed. Coldplay could have been the new U2 but instead they ended up the new Simple Minds. anyway for me this is rank of their albums 1. Viva La Vida 2. A Rush of blood To the Head 3. Parachutes 4. B-sides from first 2 albums 5. X & Y 6. Ghost Stories 7. Mylo Xyloto 8. A Head Full of Selling Out. I wouldn’t have minded Mat Whitecross focusing on Parachutes thru Viva. They raced thru X&Y to Dreams. Seemed like 20 minutes were spent between the 5 albums meanwhile an hour and 20 min were based sorely on Parachutes and Blood. Good call on Kings of Leon. I absolutely adored that band between 2002 and 2005. It’s amazing what has happened since. Selling out is putting it lightly. Sure they lost a ton of fans selling out but I’m willing to bet they aren’t missing us and have replaced us with legions more. |
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Post by Headmaster on Nov 22, 2018 19:15:44 GMT -5
Today took a listen to X&Y after almost a decade, half of it is very good, great singles, but overall it's a drab, all sounds bit too samey. Fix You still very cheesy.
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Post by Jack on Nov 23, 2018 4:15:22 GMT -5
Today took a listen to X&Y after almost a decade, half of it is very good, great singles, but overall it's a drab, all sounds bit too samey. Fix You still very cheesy. I listened to it too yesterday. I agree, most tracks on the album sound very familiar to one another, and I find 'Fix You' quite unlistenable. The highlights for me are the b-sides 'Proof', 'Things I Don't Understand', 'Gravity' and 'What If (Tom Lord Alge Mix)' |
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Post by lahaine on Nov 23, 2018 9:25:49 GMT -5
Is that the title of the Documentary then lol. I love peak Coldplay, but if there is a band who don't need a documentary made on them it's Coldplay. They are most safe band that have ever been created, one of the reasons a lot of people dislike them. At least with Oasis you had the drugs and fallouts thrown in with the good music, with U2 with the making of Achtung Baby is one of the most interesting Reinventions of a band in rock and made for a great documentary as the band went through shit to get there. Coldplay aside from Martin's crap with his ex wife, what hardship's have they got to speak off, what reinventions have they gone through. I skip that documentary. For me along with Kings of Leon, I never seen a band sell out as quick as Martin and co. They went from one of the most misunderstood great bands out there to one who went for quick dollar and became the uncool band that many during their peak fought for them to say they weren't agaisnt the haters. Most interesting about them these days is how is Martin getting all these good looking actresses into his bed. Coldplay could have been the new U2 but instead they ended up the new Simple Minds. anyway for me this is rank of their albums 1. Viva La Vida 2. A Rush of blood To the Head 3. Parachutes 4. B-sides from first 2 albums 5. X & Y 6. Ghost Stories 7. Mylo Xyloto 8. A Head Full of Selling Out. I wouldn’t have minded Mat Whitecross focusing on Parachutes thru Viva. They raced thru X&Y to Dreams. Seemed like 20 minutes were spent between the 5 albums meanwhile an hour and 20 min were based sorely on Parachutes and Blood. Good call on Kings of Leon. I absolutely adored that band between 2002 and 2005. It’s amazing what has happened since. Selling out is putting it lightly. Sure they lost a ton of fans selling out but I’m willing to bet they aren’t missing us and have replaced us with legions more. Agreed if you stick from debut era to Viva era, then you could have a decent documentary. The band aren't stupid they know that half their fanbase has fallen off with the last few albums which this DVD is aiming for. Plus they know critically those first two albums are their most acclaimed. although I like X & Y besides Fix You and Viva La Vida is their best album imo. The funny thing is one or two of the guys in KOL said they regret doing the first two albums. I get that vibe from the band that they hate people saying "they were cool once but they are such sellouts" also that people say that their first two or three albums are fantastic and everything since has been bland. They so want to be U2 when they could have been another Creendence Clearwater Revival. Shame as they had so much potential. |
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Post by lahaine on Nov 23, 2018 9:31:29 GMT -5
Today took a listen to X&Y after almost a decade, half of it is very good, great singles, but overall it's a drab, all sounds bit too samey. Fix You still very cheesy. I listened to it too yesterday. I agree, most tracks on the album sound very familiar to one another, and I find 'Fix You' quite unlistenable. The highlights for me are the b-sides 'Proof', 'Things I Don't Understand', 'Gravity' and 'What If (Tom Lord Alge Mix)' The first 6 songs besides Fix You, and the Hardest Part are the albums strongest part. Fix You is the first time you see the selling out touch creeping in with Martin. It skipped Viva la Vida then after that it became more obvious with the albums after. Every big band has that one song that even non fan's of that band love the song, Oasis have it with Wonderwall, Coldplay's is Fix You. |
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