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Post by matt on Oct 13, 2018 12:23:28 GMT -5
A story of what could have been rather than what they ended up as. He’s no lyrical genius but Chris Martin had such a flair with songwriting and melody that they really could have gone off into more interesting directions.
As an aside, one of their best songs of the last ten years is actually Magic. It’s a great little song that’s really stood the test of time for me whereas mostly the rest I’ve completely forgotten about (Head Full Of Dreams being the one album where there’s not one single song I go back to).
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 13, 2018 12:55:00 GMT -5
A story of what could have been rather than what they ended up as. He’s no lyrical genius but Chris Martin had such a flair with songwriting and melody that they really could have gone off into more interesting directions. As an aside, one of their best songs of the last ten years is actually Magic. It’s a great little song that’s really stood the test of time for me whereas mostly the rest I’ve completely forgotten about (Head Full Of Dreams being the one album where there’s not one single song I go back to). After AROBTTH I imagined them going into a totally different, slightly darker route. Always liked that early Radiohead meets Jeff Buckley hybrid sound. That pretty much ended in 2002 sadly. I think all the criticisms and jokes about them being a sad and suicidal band impacted Chris tremendously. I remember Chris Rock ripping them hard at the MTV Music Awards In 2003. People forget that’s how they were labeled in America for a long long time. A sad and depressing band. Seems like another lifetime ago now. |
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Post by Headmaster on Oct 13, 2018 13:30:50 GMT -5
A story of what could have been rather than what they ended up as. He’s no lyrical genius but Chris Martin had such a flair with songwriting and melody that they really could have gone off into more interesting directions. As an aside, one of their best songs of the last ten years is actually Magic. It’s a great little song that’s really stood the test of time for me whereas mostly the rest I’ve completely forgotten about (Head Full Of Dreams being the one album where there’s not one single song I go back to). After AROBTTH I imagined them going into a totally different, slightly darker route. Always liked that early Radiohead meets Jeff Buckley hybrid sound. That pretty much ended in 2002 sadly. I think all the criticisms and jokes about them being a sad and suicidal band impacted Chris tremendously. I remember Chris Rock ripping them hard at the MTV Music Awards In 2003. People forget that’s how they were labeled in America for a long long time. A sad and depressing band. Seems like another lifetime ago now. You forgot this one. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 13, 2018 15:10:16 GMT -5
After AROBTTH I imagined them going into a totally different, slightly darker route. Always liked that early Radiohead meets Jeff Buckley hybrid sound. That pretty much ended in 2002 sadly. I think all the criticisms and jokes about them being a sad and suicidal band impacted Chris tremendously. I remember Chris Rock ripping them hard at the MTV Music Awards In 2003. People forget that’s how they were labeled in America for a long long time. A sad and depressing band. Seems like another lifetime ago now. You forgot this one. Yeah........that joke didn't age well. At all. |
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Post by The Escapist on Oct 13, 2018 23:55:36 GMT -5
1) Viva la Vida or Death and All His Friends
2) A Rush of Blood to the Head
3) Parachutes
4) Mylo Xyloto
5) X&Y
6) Ghost Stories
7) A Head Full of Dreams
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Post by World71R on Oct 14, 2018 19:08:21 GMT -5
1) Viva la Vida or Death and All His Friends 2) A Rush of Blood to the Head 3) Parachutes 4) Mylo Xyloto 5) X&Y 6) Ghost Stories 7) A Head Full of Dreams This would be my rating too. I appreciate the love for MX. It's a very solid, good album and their best mix of electronic, alternative rock, art rock, and pop imo.  |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 14, 2018 21:07:04 GMT -5
I’m going.....................
A Rush of Blood To The Head
Parachutes
Viva
X&Y
Mylo Xyloto
Ghost Stories
A Head Full of Dreams
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Post by jordan71421 on Oct 14, 2018 22:01:47 GMT -5
I’m going..................... A Rush of Blood To The Head Parachutes Viva X&Y Mylo Xyloto Ghost Stories A Head Full of Dreams My exact list too |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 16, 2018 20:11:01 GMT -5
Started watching their new documentary by the guy who made Supersonic. I'm only about 15-20 minutes in. Pre Parachutes days. Man I miss this version of the band I would eventually fall in love with in summer 2000.
* Also I feel like some mistakes were made with he film. In the amazing college videos the band had in their dorms, they say it was from 2000. No way that is possible. They were making EPs in late 1999 and doing full scale tours in early 2000. Plus had a record deal by late 1999. No way they stayed in school past that point. Certainly not in the year 2000. Then again maybe the dates are when the band members said those quotes. Either way it can be confusing because your first thought is its the video, not the audio. But then again, not all audio quotes have the time stamp. Don't get that technique at all. Small gripes.
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Post by matt on Nov 16, 2018 20:29:05 GMT -5
Started watching their new documentary by the guy who made Supersonic. I'm only about 15-20 minutes in. Pre Parachutes days. Man I miss this version of the band I would eventually fall in love with in summer 2000. * Also I feel like some mistakes were made with he film. In the amazing college videos the band had in their dorms, they say it was from 2000. No way that is possible. They were making EPs in late 1999 and doing full scale tours in early 2000. Plus had a record deal by late 1999. No way they stayed in school past that point. Certainly not in the year 2000. Then again maybe the dates are when the band members said those quotes. Either way it can be confusing because your first thought is its the video, not the audio. But then again, not all audio quotes have the time stamp. Don't get that technique at all. Small gripes. I agree, the logic fits that cannot be 2000 - the director Matt Whitecross went to college with them (that's essentially how he made it in the business - as Coldplay's mate who directed their early videos, then goes on to make a critically acclaimed documentary on Oasis!). You'd think he'd know the dates a bit better though. |
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Post by matt on Nov 16, 2018 20:33:29 GMT -5
1) Viva la Vida or Death and All His Friends 2) A Rush of Blood to the Head 3) Parachutes 4) Mylo Xyloto 5) X&Y 6) Ghost Stories 7) A Head Full of Dreams This is exactly how I'd rate it (although X&Y is more consistent than Ghost Stories - the latter too packed with bland tunes - I do think songs like Magic, Midnight and Fly On are preferable to anything on X&Y for me personally). Incidentally, was on a run last week and switched on Mylo Xyloto for the first time in years. Not as disappointing as I remembered it, a good fun album I thought (much of the negative feeling is that it followed Viva La Vida however). I'd rate them out of ten: Viva La Vida - 9/10 Rush of Blood - 9/10 Parachutes - 8.5/10 Mylo Xyloto - 7.5/10 X&Y - 7/10 Ghost Stories - 6.5/10 A Head Full of Dream - 5/10 |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 16, 2018 21:29:22 GMT -5
I miss the old Coldplay
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Post by The Escapist on Nov 17, 2018 2:33:20 GMT -5
1) Viva la Vida or Death and All His Friends 2) A Rush of Blood to the Head 3) Parachutes 4) Mylo Xyloto 5) X&Y 6) Ghost Stories 7) A Head Full of Dreams This is exactly how I'd rate it (although X&Y is more consistent than Ghost Stories - the latter too packed with bland tunes - I do think songs like Magic, Midnight and Fly On are preferable to anything on X&Y for me personally). Incidentally, was on a run last week and switched on Mylo Xyloto for the first time in years. Not as disappointing as I remembered it, a good fun album I thought (much of the negative feeling is that it followed Viva La Vida however). I'd rate them out of ten: Viva La Vida - 9/10 Rush of Blood - 9/10 Parachutes - 8.5/10 Mylo Xyloto - 7.5/10 X&Y - 7/10 Ghost Stories - 6.5/10 A Head Full of Dream - 5/10 I feel bad disrupting our shared rankings, but I think recently I'd be more inclined to put Parachutes at number two...it's just such a fucking gorgeous album, and one that I come back to an awful lot. In a haze, a stormy haze...
And yeah, if you put Moving to Mars and ALIENS (which I believe was demoed at the time) on Mylo in place of Up in Flames (sorry mystoryisgory), it shows what a wonderfully rich and vibrant pop-rock album it is. Ghost Stories requires an even more drastic rethink (All Your Friends, Ghost Story, and Atlas should have been on there in place of the blander cuts). I'd rate them: 1) Viva la Vida or Death and All His Friends = 10/10 2) Parachutes = 10/10 3) A Rush of Blood to the Head = 9/10 4) Mylo Xyloto = 7/10 5) X&Y = 6/10 6) Ghost Stories = 6/10 7) A Head Full of Dreams = 5/10 |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 17, 2018 9:49:33 GMT -5
I'm not sure why Will doesn't release a solo album. Great voice. Plays the guitar well. I wouldn't mind him popping up on more b-sides. I saw him sing once at MSG in 2008. He was tremendous.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 17, 2018 10:04:22 GMT -5
Ok, just finished the documentary "A Head Full of Dreams". Here are my observations........................
- The bulk of the movie covers pre Parachutes right up to the end up the A Rush of Blood To The Head tour.
- Some amazing college era videos of the band. Really mind blowing that stuff exists but I guess it would if their college friend is a film major/geek and eventually directed this very documentary.
- I don’t think I’ve ever seen Chris wear jeans. Jean jacket sure. Jean pants? Never.
- Noel pops up for a hot minute for his Up&Up contributions as well as the guys praising Oasis in the mid 90s. Always the mid 90s reference point. Nobody ever says gimme Heathen Chem Oasis!
- X&Y gets about 5 minutes, as we know it was their Be Here Now moment. Too massive. Too fast. Being tugged in a million directions and without their friend and manager Phil Harvey who comes off like a shining star in this movie. Never really knew too much about him, just the name and his job. Love that he's really a band member and gets equal share as the rest of the guys with gross income.
- The backlash of X&Y really impacted Chris. Guy worries too much. Cares too much. This was the point where he and the band decided to forgo the radiohead/ Jeff Buckley route and go very mainstream.
- Viva, Mylo and Ghost stories really get about 2 min each. The film freezes thru the rest of their career. I'm glad Supersonic didn't do this. The scope is too large to cover 20 year career of Coldplay. They nailed it with Oasis. Show the phenomenon.
- I don't like that this documentary came out now. What is the point? The band isn't breaking up and it probably would serve better years later. This is framed too much around the Head Full of Dreams album which to me is very very bland, average and not memorable. Feels like a commercial for that album cycle. Wish it was freee of any album tie Ins.
- Chris is definitely gonna make a solo album eventually. You can feel it. It'll be even more pop. He will be the British Adam Levine.
- Bottom line for me, I miss the old Coldplay, 2000 to 2003. The band I saw 6-7 times during that period. And I know they are NEVER coming back.......
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Post by andybellwillring on Nov 17, 2018 20:07:34 GMT -5
The AHFOD tracklisting meeting was interesting lol. Chris didn't seem too keen on Amazing Day there...
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 17, 2018 20:27:56 GMT -5
The AHFOD tracklisting meeting was interesting lol. Chris didn't seem too keen on Amazing Day there... I took that as him Fucking with them for a laugh. |
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Post by andybellwillring on Nov 17, 2018 21:22:36 GMT -5
The AHFOD tracklisting meeting was interesting lol. Chris didn't seem too keen on Amazing Day there... I took that as him Fucking with them for a laugh. Yeah you're right, it's such a Shiny Happy Chris Martin Song. Watched the whole thing now, turns out Will and Guy are the (probably sensible) naysayers. |
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Post by clueso on Nov 19, 2018 16:27:55 GMT -5
I think the movie shows what they are best at - performing live. No matter if you like their most recent stuff, the energy and enthusiasm Coldplay delivers is another dimension and really cant be compared. Thats why i love them. A true authentic band. And i really believe the praised fact, that they are so close friends, you can feel it everywhere. Well and Chris, its impossible to dislike such a positive character, full of life ,full of dreams. But thats just my personal point of view ...
And i will never get the negativity, by themselves as well, for X&Y. Its one of their very best with so many amazing songs (Square One,Talk,Fix You,White Shadows,Speed of Sound,Low and Twisted Logic).And personally i dont think its too big. Its too good, Yes.
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Post by glider on Nov 21, 2018 0:09:34 GMT -5
Chris Martin fell off a cliff. How do you go from R.E.M. inspired to Beyonce inspired?
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 21, 2018 7:09:10 GMT -5
Chris Martin fell off a cliff. How do you go from R.E.M. inspired to Beyonce inspired? It’s been extremely evident for years via his interviews and even seen throughout this documentary. Chris just wants to be liked and loved. He’s thin skinned. That’s why Coldplay were never gonna be a Radiohead type band like the press loved to write back in 2000-2003. It’s just not in their DNA. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 21, 2018 7:13:42 GMT -5
I think the movie shows what they are best at - performing live. No matter if you like their most recent stuff, the energy and enthusiasm Coldplay delivers is another dimension and really cant be compared. Thats why i love them. A true authentic band. And i really believe the praised fact, that they are so close friends, you can feel it everywhere. Well and Chris, its impossible to dislike such a positive character, full of life ,full of dreams. But thats just my personal point of view ... And i will never get the negativity, by themselves as well, for X&Y. Its one of their very best with so many amazing songs (Square One,Talk,Fix You,White Shadows,Speed of Sound,Low and Twisted Logic).And personally i dont think its too big. Its too good, Yes. I’d say half of X&Y is excellent. I’ll ride and die for Square One, White Shadows, Fix You, Speed of Sound, Low, A Message and Til Kingdom Come. There is a ton i’d have cut, droppped, rethought, ditched or add more. A studio version of Pour Me would have been a nice song for balance. Even Sleeping Sun and Things I Don’t Understand. Also the original leaked version of Talk from March 2005 was so much better than the final product. Not sure why the band decided to tinker more. |
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Post by clueso on Nov 21, 2018 13:02:07 GMT -5
Things I Dont Understand and The World Turned Upside Down are my songs i'd added instead of What If and A Message.
Its ridicolous only Fix You stayed in their set,especially Talk is massive live. Btw, i do like the more powerful final result of the song. The leaked one is more dreamy but lacks the energy.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 21, 2018 13:31:42 GMT -5
X&Y1) Square One 2) White Shadows 3) Fix You 4) Talk 5) Speed of Sound 6) A Message 7) The Hardest Part 8) Low 9) Swallowed in the Sea 10) Gravity 11) Twisted Logic 12) Till Kingdom Come That's the best I can do with X&Y. It's funny because I like all those songs individually but the overall album just can't help but feel a bit drab - they needed to incorporate the space-y sound they wanted in a much more colourful way than "just splash a synth on there and call it a day". In all honestly, it's the Coldplay album I listen to the least - thankfully they came back with a true masterpiece in Viva la Vida or Death and All His Friends. Swallowed In the Sea is one of their worst songs ever. Those lyrics are cringe worthy to say it nicely. I mean what the fuck Chris??? I was ok with no Gravity on the album despite loving it while they toured it live during the AROBTTH tour. However the song is too samey and predictable for the band in 2005. Way too safe and a copy of the cliche Coldplay sad piano song. Chris can write a song like this in his sleep. Same goes for the piano version of Lost. If that came out in 2000 or 2002, awesome. But In 2008 no way. Glad it went in a better, more exciting direction. Also pour one out for Ladder To The Sun. We all thought it was gonna be the crowning achievement of album 3. Doesn’t make the album and hasn’t been heard of since. Loved it live. |
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Post by clueso on Nov 21, 2018 13:32:39 GMT -5
What i really love about Viva is the fact its so harmoniously. Every song exactly seems to be where its meant to be.
Violet Hill is one of my Top 3 Coldplay songs and i wished they had done more like this after. Major Minus was an opportunity but they missed it. It sounded so amazing the first time i heard it live at Rock am Ring.
Their costumes in the Viva era have been the best so far.
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