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Post by rekrelf on Jul 9, 2015 8:54:10 GMT -5
It's between DLBIA 2000-2005 and Wonderwall like Maine Road 96. Bit the winner is the first one...
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jul 9, 2015 9:29:21 GMT -5
I find this an incredibly strange topic. Should've just put the studio version of both songs, instead of weird options that aren't even similar for the both songs. The way it is formulated now, it isn't about which is the better song, but about which is the better live song.
And which is the better live song seems pretty obvious to me. There's only one of the two that's been done justice live, that has been performed in the right tempo, and always has been sung well, and only one of the two that has you both crying and smiling, with a fist in the air, while putting an arm around a stranger's shoulder and only one of them that has one of the most explosive choruses ever.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2015 11:13:57 GMT -5
I find this an incredibly strange topic. Should've just put the studio version of both songs, instead of weird options that aren't even similar for the both songs. The way it is formulated now, it isn't about which is the better song, but about which is the better live song. And which is the better live song seems pretty obvious to me. There's only one of the two that's been done justice live, that has been performed in the right tempo, and always has been sung well, and only one of the two that has you both crying and smiling, with a fist in the air, while putting an arm around a stranger's shoulder and only one of them that has one of the most explosive choruses ever. And that song is The Meaning Of Soul.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jul 9, 2015 11:23:57 GMT -5
I find this an incredibly strange topic. Should've just put the studio version of both songs, instead of weird options that aren't even similar for the both songs. The way it is formulated now, it isn't about which is the better song, but about which is the better live song. And which is the better live song seems pretty obvious to me. There's only one of the two that's been done justice live, that has been performed in the right tempo, and always has been sung well, and only one of the two that has you both crying and smiling, with a fist in the air, while putting an arm around a stranger's shoulder and only one of them that has one of the most explosive choruses ever. And that song is The Meaning Of Soul. At first I thought of typing "and that is Better Man" or "She Is Love" or something daft like that
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2015 11:25:37 GMT -5
And that song is The Meaning Of Soul. At first I thought of typing "and that is Better Man" or "She Is Love" or something daft like that I like the way your mind works!
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jul 9, 2015 12:39:47 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2015 12:52:29 GMT -5
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Post by carlober on Jul 9, 2015 12:58:24 GMT -5
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jul 9, 2015 13:09:14 GMT -5
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jul 9, 2015 14:17:46 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2015 14:22:45 GMT -5
What's a Wonderwall?
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jul 9, 2015 14:27:38 GMT -5
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Post by Manualex on Jul 9, 2015 15:46:00 GMT -5
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jul 9, 2015 17:52:58 GMT -5
Would never have thought it years ago, but I love Wonderwall, and it tops Don't Look Back In Anger for me these days. I was never that keen on Wonderwall, and it was never a reason why I became a fan of Oasis but over the years (and for an Oasis forum it doesn't really get talked about for such a massive tune) - and most recently - it has dawned on me what a great song it is. Everything about it is perfect - its probably the most infectious rhythm you could ever get and surely the most noticeable song on an acoustic guitar. I love Alan White's drumming, and those cellos in the background (actually an e-bow would you believe!) makes the tune even more brooding. And final praise goes to Liam's vocals. I'm always reminded of Cast telling me some years back what was great about his vocals on this after I stated I wasn't much a fan of this particular performance. And over the years, I have come to agree. As usual, Cast is spot on because his vocals are so unique in that they are very sharp and harsh in its enunciation, giving the tune more attack and verve as opposed to a softer singer (also helped by the brickwalling production technique). And what's more, Liam's voice never seeps into gooey sentimentality where 99% of other singers would have approached it. It's a song that deserves Liam's treatment in particular, because Noel's songwriting is restrained and it never descends into farcical latter-Coldplay type hollow bombast. It's emotional, but not too emotional, and it's all the more sincere for it. Everyone who was involved in the recording of this song got it perfect. It's no wonder its one of the most popular songs of all time. This. Great post. DLBIA is a great, great song and one of Noel's best but I can honestly say if someone told me I would never hear it again I wouldn't be to bothered. I'm a victim of it being overplayed quite honestly. I'm pissed off its been played so much because I just don't enjoy it anymore.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jul 9, 2015 18:14:43 GMT -5
I find this an incredibly strange topic. Should've just put the studio version of both songs, instead of weird options that aren't even similar for the both songs. The way it is formulated now, it isn't about which is the better song, but about which is the better live song. And which is the better live song seems pretty obvious to me. There's only one of the two that's been done justice live, that has been performed in the right tempo, and always has been sung well, and only one of the two that has you both crying and smiling, with a fist in the air, while putting an arm around a stranger's shoulder and only one of them that has one of the most explosive choruses ever. To be fair, this is quite shite.
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Post by Teotihuacan on Jul 10, 2015 1:36:30 GMT -5
and those cellos in the background (actually an e-bow would you believe!) Yeah, good post here, summed up some of my feelings, although I've never personally had an 'I hate Wonderwall' phase. The cello part is actually a Mellotron (as are the "string" parts on DLBIA and the final chorus of Hey Now!) played by Bonehead as Noel plays all the bass and acoustic and electric guitar parts and Noel and Owen wanted to find him a significant part on the track. This was discussed on an eccentric Danish breakfast TV show when Noel was promoting NGHFB 1 a few years back [/url]ww.youtube.com/watch?v=Csq0NUYffLs[/url].. Noel's most extensive use of the e-bow is, I'm pretty sure, the 'swooping' guitar part you hear in the background at various points on DLBIA. At the very end of the track just before 'least not today' you can hear it most clearly in the mix, vibrating the guitar strings. I'd like to hear someone ask about his inspiration for using the bow because I don't think he's used it since live or in the studio. In the 1996 official Oasis magazine Owen Morris recalls Noel producing the bow when he and Weller were having an intense studio jam, possibly at an overdub session for the Champagne Supernova solo parts (?) in the summer of 1995.
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Post by mahsteve on Jul 10, 2015 12:51:42 GMT -5
For some unknown reason the band never really got wonderwall right live but this version, which I believe is from the Rock in Rio festival in January 2001, is really good. I think there's a few reasons why they didn't get it quite right. The drumming live is different as on the record I think Alan white used brushes instead of sticks and holds the brush in a different way than when live drumming with sticks. (I am not a drummer so don't really know what I'm talking about) some examples of this are when Noel and Alan played wonderwall on the later with jools Holland show in 1995, I think they did the same thing for a performance on the white room show around the same time. I appreciate its not live but on the wonderwall video u can see Alan uses brushes and holds them in a military drummer style and I think that's the way he played it on record but uses sticks live which changes the sound and style of the song. I think the distinctive rhythem of the song is lost a bit when they play it on electric guitars. They rarely got the pace of the song right when performing it live either too slow or too fast. I think at the maine road gig in 1996 Noel seems to play the acoustic too fast.
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Post by Zara on Jul 10, 2015 17:20:50 GMT -5
Always Don't Look Back in Anger for me, I prefer both the studio version and live versions to Wonderwall. I voted for DLBIA 2000-2005.
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Post by World71R on Jul 10, 2015 18:40:21 GMT -5
and those cellos in the background (actually an e-bow would you believe!) Yeah, good post here, summed up some of my feelings, although I've never personally had an 'I hate Wonderwall' phase. The cello part is actually a Mellotron (as are the "string" parts on DLBIA and the final chorus of Hey Now!) played by Bonehead as Noel plays all the bass and acoustic and electric guitar parts and Noel and Owen wanted to find him a significant part on the track. This was discussed on an eccentric Danish breakfast TV show when Noel was promoting NGHFB 1 a few years back Noel's most extensive use of the e-bow is, I'm pretty sure, the 'swooping' guitar part you hear in the background at various points on DLBIA. At the very end of the track just before 'least not today' you can hear it most clearly in the mix, vibrating the guitar strings. I'd like to hear someone ask about his inspiration for using the bow because I don't think he's used it since live or in the studio. In the 1996 official Oasis magazine Owen Morris recalls Noel producing the bow when he and Weller were having an intense studio jam, possibly at an overdub session for the Champagne Supernova solo parts (?) in the summer of 1995. I believe the Hey Now! strings are a sample, but DLBIA is definitely a Mellotron, same with Wonderwall. It wouldn't surprise me, though, if the WW "strings" were done with the E-bow for how it resonates at the end of the song, but when you compare it to how the E-bow sounds on DLBIA, it doesn't quite go hand-in-hand. (Also, Noel jamming? Holy shit, that really is 90s Noel. He needs to do more of that stuff, his solo stuff feels a bit too orderly at times.) EDIT: This formatting is absolutely fucking up, I'm so sorry.
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