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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2015 17:10:40 GMT -5
What do you guys think? I think during the Be Here Now tour or the fight were he lost his teeth during the Heathen Chemistry tour.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2015 17:16:08 GMT -5
dont think the bhn tour he sounded awesome most of the time , i remember when he lost those teeth doctors said it would change his pitch , so that may be a factor
weak vocal chords or at least strained from his style probably has more to do with it ( i guess the smoking and drinking but so many other singers older have smoked and drink and sound fine )
personally I think his next move will be his turning point..dont think we have seen it yet
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Post by World71R on May 6, 2015 17:58:47 GMT -5
For his voice, I would say the time period between Standing on the Shoulder of Giants and Heathen Chemistry, and the HC Tour. He started to develop more of a growl in his voice, which resulted in him moving farther & farther away from his classic voice, and imo, played a role in his voice going south because there was less clarity in what he was singing & if he was having a bad night, he'd just growl his way through it, like many of the DBTT era gigs.
For Liam himself, I'd say when the split happened.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2015 18:01:57 GMT -5
Not really a turning point but more of a long process. I think the press exposure he had from late 1995-1997 turned him into a far more cagey person.
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Post by Manualex on May 6, 2015 18:19:20 GMT -5
The turning was when the reptile was shaken.
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Post by World71R on May 6, 2015 18:24:54 GMT -5
The turning was when the reptile was shaken. "So come onnnnn, shake your ragdoll baby, before you change your miiinnndd...."
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Post by longwaytorun on May 25, 2015 14:55:53 GMT -5
Well, when he decided it wasn't important to keep his voice strong.
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Post by tomlivesforever on May 25, 2015 18:12:03 GMT -5
Well, when he decided it wasn't important to keep his voice strong. Yeah of course. He definitely "decided" that. If only he had called you before he made the decision.
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Post by leak4ever on May 25, 2015 22:15:49 GMT -5
Well, when he decided it wasn't important to keep his voice strong. Yeah of course. He definitely "decided" that. If only he had called you before he made the decision. Well he definitely decided not to give a shit about it's deteriorating state.
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Post by sgtpeppr on May 26, 2015 1:10:21 GMT -5
first noticed when i heard him during the 2000 wembley gig which was televised over here. i thought he was atrocious. ive since gotten used to it and think he doesnt sound so bad. it was just the initial shock of his new sound in direct contrast to the sublime voice he had previous.
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 26, 2015 8:00:16 GMT -5
For me there has always been a distinct divide between Oasis pre and post 2000. Not sure that entirely falls on Liam but overall band dymanics and influence. Liam's changing voice played a part but so did members departing, members joining and Noel's songs becoming fewer and darker.
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Post by spud on May 26, 2015 9:01:17 GMT -5
2003
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on May 26, 2015 14:43:07 GMT -5
Now, i hope.
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on May 27, 2015 4:04:24 GMT -5
The turning point for William John Paul Gallagher was when he asked his older brother, Noel, to join his band Oasis. The two, along with pals Bonehead, Guigs and Tony McCarroll dominated the world with their music. Liam's voice became iconic and the two brothers' warring made front page news the world over. Liam became a legend, so much so that anonymous people on forums debated over the exact period in time in which he stopped being a hero and started becoming a waster.
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Post by zgb on May 27, 2015 5:22:21 GMT -5
When Noel joined Oasis and made him rich. that's Liam's turning point.
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Post by sgtpeppr on May 27, 2015 6:48:39 GMT -5
The turning point for William John Paul Gallagher was when he asked his older brother, Noel, to join his band Oasis. The two, along with pals Bonehead, Guigs and Tony McCarroll dominated the world with their music. Liam's voice became iconic and the two brothers' warring made front page news the world over. Liam became a legend, so much so that anonymous people on forums debated over the exact period in time in which he stopped being a hero and started becoming a waster. hes still a hero. but its also obvious his voice faltered over the years...
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on May 27, 2015 12:56:33 GMT -5
For me there has always been a distinct divide between Oasis pre and post 2000. Not sure that entirely falls on Liam but overall band dymanics and influence. Liam's changing voice played a part but so did members departing, members joining and Noel's songs becoming fewer and darker. This was what I was planning to type too, so I completely agree. His voice was still alright, but already different from the tour before, and this time it was more notable than before.
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