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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2015 17:17:05 GMT -5
in a play off @defmaybee00 poll , was wondering if liam or noel just arrrived on the scene when there solo stuff arrived . so no OASIS backcatolouge , would you still be such a ardent supporter of either of them ?
this is not a poll to bash , let me clarify , my fav band ever led zep ..... i rarelly keep plant on the radio or page ( the firm ) when there played
i bought each of there first solo lps and hated it , had there been no zep i would not support plant or page solo cause i think they sucked
same for VAN HALEN I FORGOT how much I loved them cause i stopped listening after sammy took over , i listened , hated it , never bought another lp til dave returned
so this is not a poll to bash noel or liam , simply curious if you would still be a fan , ( go to the gigs ,support the lps , join a forum ) if they were solo artists with no OASIS BACKGROUND .
ME ? no , just like plant ,page , van hagar , or pete townsend solo with no who recordings , i would never listen or support . after hearing there solo stuff , i would have said its ok , but nothing special as i did the others
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Post by uǝɥʇɐǝɥ on Apr 22, 2015 17:27:11 GMT -5
Before I ever heard of Oasis I was a fan of the "The" garage rock scene and always appreciated the Beatles for their Rock 'n' Roll tunes. So it would have been hard for me to ignore Beady Eye. As for Noel, I would have probably found out he was the brother of the singer of Beady Eye and gave him a try.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2015 17:28:54 GMT -5
No, I think I had never heard of them because BE and NGHFB are never on Dutch radiostations.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2015 17:34:54 GMT -5
Before I ever heard of Oasis I was a fan of the "The" garage rock scene and always appreciated the Beatles for their Rock 'n' Roll tunes. So it would have been hard for me to ignore Beady Eye. As for Noel, I would have probably found out he was the brother of the singer of Beady Eye and gave him a try. first off love the mo pic man he caught it big on that massage table thats a good point , like i said no bashing at all , its no secret i am less than thrilled with either of there solo outputs and only listen out of loyality , but with no OASIS i have no loyality or interest in them as i find noels stuff pretty boring , and bdi are to me OASIS LITE , wish i could love it , but man it dont hit me and i tried , i will still always support , but with no OASIS , no way would i support
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Post by oasisserbia on Apr 22, 2015 17:37:51 GMT -5
No. CY is very good but tbh, imagine looking video on tv, there is some grumpy old man in red pants with disco beat and everything, i dont think that i would say, hey, who is this, i gotta download album of this man. I would probably think that BDI looks cool and that they have swagger but than again, i wouldnt probably mind that much for that kind of style and swagger if there wasn't Oasis.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2015 17:40:29 GMT -5
No. CY is very good but tbh, imagine looking video on tv, there is some grumpy old man in red pants with disco beat and everything, i dont think that i would say, hey, who is this, i gotta download album of this man. I would probably think that BDI looks cool and that they have swagger but than again, i wouldnt probably mind that much for that kind of style and swagger if there wasn't Oasis. THAT sometimes i am hard to follow , that sums it up best up there , for me anyway
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Post by uǝɥʇɐǝɥ on Apr 22, 2015 17:46:38 GMT -5
Before I ever heard of Oasis I was a fan of the "The" garage rock scene and always appreciated the Beatles for their Rock 'n' Roll tunes. So it would have been hard for me to ignore Beady Eye. As for Noel, I would have probably found out he was the brother of the singer of Beady Eye and gave him a try. first off love the mo pic man he caught it big on that massage table thats a good point , like i said no bashing at all , its no secret i am less than thrilled with either of there solo outputs and only listen out of loyality , but with no OASIS i have no loyality or interest in them as i find noels stuff pretty boring , and bdi are to me OASIS LITE , wish i could love it , but man it dont hit me and i tried , i will still always support , but with no OASIS , no way would i support Liam surely would have come across a bit like an arrogant prick ,at some point, without being able to back it up. And I surley would have lost interest in that person after all that love child scandal. While we are on the topic...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2015 17:47:17 GMT -5
To quote Malcolm Tucker, "What would it be like if men had tits?"
Because it's hypothetical, it's very difficult to answer.
Let's say that out of the blue we get a rock band that comes along full of a bunch of middle aged guys that are influenced by the 60s. In 2011 there was a severe lack of this kind of music, for better or for worse, but I probably would have given it a listen but maybe been slightly put off by their first record. Had Flick Of The Finger been the first song I'd hear then I would have been very interested.
To be honest, I doubt they'd be given any exposure at all though.
And then comes along this guy who's the brother of the lead singer and puts out a Kinks inspired album a few months down the line. A similar story to Beady Eye; I would have been mildly interested but I'm not sure if it would have electrified me. Would a 45 year old man releasing an alternative/vintage style rock album have been given much exposure? Probably not.
The thing about this question is we're assuming that Noel never wrote Live Forever, Slide Away, Some Might Say or any of the rest of it so we don't know whether his songwriting would have evolved differently etc.
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Post by Jessica on Apr 22, 2015 17:52:49 GMT -5
It's an interesting question... The first song I heard was Half The World Away, then The Importance of Being Idle, and while I loved the albums, I also liked the acoustic sets Noel was doing around that time. So yeah, I would have been a fan under the same circumstances.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Apr 23, 2015 0:47:54 GMT -5
Maybe.
I did hear The Death Of You And Me on the radio before I got into Oasis. I thought it was a weird song but I liked it. I doubt I'd go to a gig of a 47 year old grumpy looking dwarf though. It's hard to say.
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Post by scott1 on Apr 23, 2015 3:02:57 GMT -5
I'm not sure I would have done.
It took Oasis to get me into their sort of music, without me being an Oasis fan beforehand I doubt I'd have gave them much of a chance. I'd certainly have had an intrigued listen, but I think I'd struggle to really "get" them.
But who knows, I may have loved them - it's impossible to tell.
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Post by Jessica on Apr 23, 2015 7:40:02 GMT -5
To add to my post... I got into Jarvis Cocker, Richard Ashcroft, and Morrissey before I listened to Pulp/The Verve/The Smiths. They all happened to have solo records during the time I was really getting into music. I owe that to my friend who I used to talk to on the weekends and listen to the radio with, it just became the norm to turn on Absolute/BBC radio on my own.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Apr 23, 2015 7:58:52 GMT -5
Noel? Yes.
Beady Eye? Fuck that shit.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Apr 23, 2015 8:26:05 GMT -5
I don't know,I remember liking TDOYAM when it came out,even if I wasn't an Oasis fan at the time Plus I love both NGHFB and CY,so I'd say yes for Noel BE I don't know,I'm not Bring The Light's biggest fan,but I really like The Roller and FLW,so maybe I would've got into them anyway It's hard to tell though,cause they're all well past their primes,so it's hard to imagine their careers without what came before,it just feels like a journey The question should be "if Catfish And The Bottlemen released DGSS/BE/NGHFB/CY would you like them?"
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Post by nahuel89p on Apr 23, 2015 12:00:43 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure my brain understands NGHFB and Beady Eye because it is shaped by years and years of Oasis.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2015 13:14:19 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure my brain understands NGHFB and Beady Eye because it is shaped by years and years of Oasis. Now that's a great point ,,, but look at me , my brain was formed on LED ZEP and eddie Van halens guitar ...... Yet when Zep disbanded I thought page and plant lost the plot , and same for eddie with Van hagar , If plant and page were in there prime as solo artists I would not have listened , and if HAGAR came before roth. Which almost happened in 1974 , I would not be aware of eddies genius , funny how certain things go
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Post by joladella on Apr 23, 2015 13:29:27 GMT -5
Beady Eye maybe, because I came to Oasis via falling in love with Liam's older voice. Noel, don't think so, because his solo stuff is not really my kind of music.
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Post by nahuel89p on Apr 23, 2015 14:28:28 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure my brain understands NGHFB and Beady Eye because it is shaped by years and years of Oasis. Now that's a great point ,,, but look at me , my brain was formed on LED ZEP and eddie Van halens guitar ...... Yet when Zep disbanded I thought page and plant lost the plot , and same for eddie with Van hagar , If plant and page were in there prime as solo artists I would not have listened , and if HAGAR came before roth. Which almost happened in 1974 , I would not be aware of eddies genius , funny how certain things go Yeah but bear in mind that Led Zep music is outwordly stuff, more like epic virtuoso, an artist can't continue doing progressive on and on year after year. They kinda blew their creativity and inspiration in a a handful of very productive years aiming very high and that was it. Oasis on the other hand is rock n roll with poppy brushes, you can go on with that that because it's easier, you will hardly fail once you figured out what your formula is. You can rewrite Cigarettes and Alcohol 20 times and still get your fanbase off their nuts, but you can't write stairway to heaven twice... you will fall short, no matter what.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2015 14:41:31 GMT -5
Now that's a great point ,,, but look at me , my brain was formed on LED ZEP and eddie Van halens guitar ...... Yet when Zep disbanded I thought page and plant lost the plot , and same for eddie with Van hagar , If plant and page were in there prime as solo artists I would not have listened , and if HAGAR came before roth. Which almost happened in 1974 , I would not be aware of eddies genius , funny how certain things go Yeah but bear in mind that Led Zep music is outwordly stuff, more like epic virtuoso, an artist can't continue doing progressive on and on year after year. They kinda blew their creativity and inspiration in a a handful of very productive years aiming very high and that was it. Oasis on the other hand is rock n roll with poppy brushes, you can go on with that that because it's easier, you will hardly fail once you figured out what your formula is. You can rewrite Cigarettes and Alcohol 20 times and still get your fanbase off their nuts, but you can't write stairway to heaven twice... you will fall short, no matter what. you know I agree and stairway isnt even in my top 15 or20 zep tunes , lean way more toward kashmir , ten years gone , dazed and confused ect ect great point , they stayed brilliant from first lp til last , rare
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2015 14:26:00 GMT -5
Liam wasn't interested in music till Noel was a roadie for Inspiral Carpets
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Post by The-Ghost-Dancer on Apr 24, 2015 14:47:24 GMT -5
im 40 years old and im a right picky c_unt when it comes to music as i was a die hard oasis fan from when i 1st saw them on the word,,i was bang into the rave scene from 1990 up until about late 93 then i got bored with it and was looking for something new to listen to then oasis came along after that i started listening to the stone roses a mate i went raving with always wore the lemon tshirtat raves and kept tellin me to give them a llisten so i did,,i feel like im going off subject would i like them if they came out now more than likely but its hard to tell
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Post by NYR on Apr 24, 2015 16:32:51 GMT -5
I guess that depends if Noel's albums had any songs from Oasis' catalog. If so, of course! If not, probably not— especially in Beady Eye's case.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2015 17:15:21 GMT -5
I guess that depends if Noel's albums had any songs from Oasis' catalog. If so, of course! If not, probably not— especially in Beady Eye's case. yep , same here , and that was exactly my point to this thread , since the split I have seen some here who rank noels solo up there with some oasis material ( to me NO WAYYYYYYYY) oasis at there worst TO ME are miles ahead of hfb , same for beady eye s work my question was if there was no OASIS catalouge AND THIS was there debut stuff , would you be a ardent fan ? doesent mean you have to dislike it , but nbwould it inspire you to talk on a forum and such ? glad you see it like me , and the poll is quite split , thats cool
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2015 17:36:26 GMT -5
i would still like noel but probably not to the same extent. he does get a lot of goodwill from us oasis fans. As for beady eye i don't care for them as it is anyway.
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Post by Guy Fawkes on Apr 24, 2015 17:51:32 GMT -5
i would still like noel but probably not to the same extent. he does get a lot of goodwill from us oasis fans. As for beady eye i don't care for them as it is anyway. That's about how I'd feel... I would look at BDi and think Liam should hook up with a great songwriter because he has "it", and by " it" I mean he has great hair. God bless.
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