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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Jun 17, 2015 12:42:21 GMT -5
BE sounds like a post 2000 oasis record Therein lies the problem. A post 2000 Oasis album without the 2-3 killer NG-written tracks. Sounds pretty dire to me. I don't know.... Sometimes I think everbody hails noels songwriting, because everybody hails his songwriting. Don't get me wrong but is everything Noel touchea that much better? I fell in love with Oasis because of "a bell will ring" a song that gets that much hate here, which I will never understand. I grew into Oasis without informing myself who hasd written which song. For me they were a great band and not great noel. |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jun 17, 2015 13:18:12 GMT -5
Therein lies the problem. A post 2000 Oasis album without the 2-3 killer NG-written tracks. Sounds pretty dire to me. I don't know.... Sometimes I think everbody hails noels songwriting, because everybody hails his songwriting. Don't get me wrong but is everything Noel touchea that much better? I fell in love with Oasis because of "a bell will ring" a song that gets that much hate here, which I will never understand. I grew into Oasis without informing myself who hasd written which song. For me they were a great band and not great noel. While I'm not a big fan of A Bell Will Ring I get what you're saying,they've written some great tunes and not just with Oasis (I've often stated my love for Ride on here) and Noel has written some shitty ones,but the thing is,not everything Noel touches he's gold,but he's simply a better songwriter than the other three Said that,I've always tried to enjoy Noel 's records without thinking about Liam's voice and I do the same with BE,we should enjoy both projects for what they are,not what they could have been |
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Post by allingoodtime on Jun 20, 2015 10:22:41 GMT -5
Beady Eye was one of the very few bands which had songs that sounded good on their first listen.
First time I listened to The Roller and The Four letter word I was impressed.
Same goes for The flick of the finger. I liked the band a lot - more than NGHFB but they weren't as successful as Noel as expected
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Post by richie4422 on Jun 20, 2015 11:09:04 GMT -5
Well, I dislike DGSS, it really doesn't speak to me in any way. BE has some good tunes (4-5) for sure, but overall it's an average rock and roll music with Liam's too much nasal voice, his voice actually gets annoying through the listnening of the album, which never happened before. But it was a step in to right direction and I was really looking forward to their third album, but hey, what can you do. Hope we will hear about Liam soon, I like that guy. NGHFB and Liam really suffer from those weird fans taking it too much seriously, wearing the same clothes, the same sunglasses and the same haircuts- all together singing I need to be myself, I can't be no one else.. ironic, so there will be always overexaggerated statements about their music. To sum it up, BE's second album is quite good, compared to some music nowdays, above average, but compared to Oasis as whole or even as BHN, nah...
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jun 20, 2015 11:47:54 GMT -5
I don't know.... Sometimes I think everbody hails noels songwriting, because everybody hails his songwriting. Don't get me wrong but is everything Noel touchea that much better? I fell in love with Oasis because of "a bell will ring" a song that gets that much hate here, which I will never understand. I grew into Oasis without informing myself who hasd written which song. For me they were a great band and not great noel. While I'm not a big fan of A Bell Will Ring I get what you're saying,they've written some great tunes and not just with Oasis (I've often stated my love for Ride on here) and Noel has written some shitty ones,but the thing is,not everything Noel touches he's gold,but he's simply a better songwriter than the other three Said that,I've always tried to enjoy Noel 's records without thinking about Liam's voice and I do the same with BE,we should enjoy both projects for what they are,not what they could have been This. You should appreciate NGHFB and Beady Eye for what they are. This is what I meant the other day when I said it's weird to dislike a Noel solo album because you're missing Liam's voice on it. It's a solo album. Liams voice not being on there is the point. Just like the fact Beady Eye didn't have Noels songs. Not all songs they wrote were bad. Some were pretty good and I still enjoy listening to them, but it's not the same. You really have to like their style of songwriting to like them, and then there's Liam's voice which isn't getting better. If you can't get into Oasis it's unlikely you'll be able to get into Beady Eye. In my opinion. I hated Oasis at first too, btw. |
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Post by matt on Jun 20, 2015 19:25:11 GMT -5
I wonder what Beady Eye would have been like if they had gone into the studio with absolutely no material, and did what some bands do - jam it out and mould tunes from sessions. That would have been cool - certainly think Andy Bell would have thrived in that environment as it gives a songwriter free reign and often what comes out of it is the more experimental side to a band as it explores its sonic capabilities with studio trickery. Very often a band can come across a distinct sound simply by mucking around with amps, distortion, synths etc that dictates the mood a song will go in.
The Verve, U2, Sigur Ros, Radiohead.... all these bands have recorded in this manner and what you get is an album that, while perhaps it isn't as melodically instant, lingers longer in the mind as you attempt to convey the multilayered aspects of it. And one of the drawbacks with going into a studio with ready made tunes at the helm is that if the melody doesn't hit you, it will never appeal to you. But I think Liam and Noel both have enough melodic ability to craft a tune on top of a well honed piece of instrumentation.
I think Beady Eye in fairness touched upon this with BE, and I think the best moments were those that really took the songs far out - the end of Don't Brother Me could in itself have inspired a different song, but that idea is best epitomised by Soul Love. I like the melody in that but even taken from an instrumental point of view, it's a great song and they seemed to kind of broaden their horizons with the arrangement of that tune - a low key moody melody that inspired them to add those sinister effects to the tune.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 20, 2015 21:53:09 GMT -5
I can't be arsed to write paragraphs often these days, so I'll leave this here for possible debate:
You could make a strong argument that Beady Eye actually succeeded.
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Post by Manualex on Jun 20, 2015 22:31:25 GMT -5
I can't be arsed to write paragraphs often these days, so I'll leave this here for possible debate: You could make a strong argument that Beady Eye actually succeeded. As a stand alone band? Fuck sake no, the voice uk was the last nail in the coffin for them. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 20, 2015 22:35:28 GMT -5
I can't be arsed to write paragraphs often these days, so I'll leave this here for possible debate: You could make a strong argument that Beady Eye actually succeeded. As a stand alone band? Fuck sake no, the voice uk was the last nail in the coffin for them. Right, statistically looking at album sales, gig attendance, etc they failed - but to what degree depends on what you're judging them against. But if you view Beady Eye as a band who knew they wouldn't rival Oasis but kept their fighting spirit alive, then sure as fuck it was a success. In some, albeit warped, ways you could view Beady Eye like Rain in the sense that they were going to write tunes, be in a band, let no one stop them, with a "fuck those who don't get us" attitude. And they did it. And if they did it (which they did, obviously), does that not then make them a success? |
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Post by Manualex on Jun 20, 2015 22:58:13 GMT -5
As a stand alone band? Fuck sake no, the voice uk was the last nail in the coffin for them. Right, statistically looking at album sales, gig attendance, etc they failed - but to what degree depends on what you're judging them against. But if you view Beady Eye as a band who knew they wouldn't rival Oasis but kept their fighting spirit alive, then sure as fuck it was a success. In some, albeit warped, ways you could view Beady Eye like Rain in the sense that they were going to write tunes, be in a band, let no one stop them, with a "fuck those who don't get us" attitude. And they did it. And if they did it (which they did, obviously), does that not then make them a success? Yes they succeded. As a mediocre band. Perhaps the bridges Liam burnt over the years(not talking about Noel), made it harder to start but, when you dont want to listen to your producer of your debut album and then take cheap shots at him because it didnt worked you cant expect people to like you. That's why they had to work with Sitek and listen, but it was too little too late. |
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Post by underneaththesky on Jun 21, 2015 10:08:20 GMT -5
was waching Flick and then stumbled upon this.. Surprisingly good.
Fuck success. and check out Morning Glory.. better than Noel crying Champagne Supernova.
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Post by madferit1995 on Oct 9, 2015 0:10:49 GMT -5
They're okay. I haven't listened to them much but I love The Roller and Flick of the Finger.
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Post by Noeldemort on Oct 9, 2015 4:37:54 GMT -5
I like BE a lot. FOTF is very catchy. I love Shine a light, Soul love, Soon come tomorrow, etc, although I don't think the album were meant to be stadium rock thing like Oasis's. Sometimes I wonder if it would make a difference had they released BE first and then followed with DGSS.
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Post by Noeldemort on Oct 9, 2015 4:42:05 GMT -5
IMO, I feel like Beady Eye are one of those groups that grow on you. You can listen to DGSS and BE at first, and think it's a bit shite (DGSS) and alright (BE), but after awhile you think about the tiny little moments within the songs that kind of make you smile, like the instrumental in Don't Brother Me, the hypnotic solo in Soon Come Tomorrow, the beautiful piano in The Beat Goes On, or the pure sincerness of The Morning Son, and you love it. A nice little rock group that had its time of fun, no doubt. Who knows, they might come back, even though the chance is so low. Liam said once that it would be ideal to put out two albums, disappear for a while, and then come back with another two album. Let's wait and see what happens next  He might stick to his words. |
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Post by World71R on Oct 9, 2015 20:13:33 GMT -5
IMO, I feel like Beady Eye are one of those groups that grow on you. You can listen to DGSS and BE at first, and think it's a bit shite (DGSS) and alright (BE), but after awhile you think about the tiny little moments within the songs that kind of make you smile, like the instrumental in Don't Brother Me, the hypnotic solo in Soon Come Tomorrow, the beautiful piano in The Beat Goes On, or the pure sincerness of The Morning Son, and you love it. A nice little rock group that had its time of fun, no doubt. Who knows, they might come back, even though the chance is so low. Liam said once that it would be ideal to put out two albums, disappear for a while, and then come back with another two album. Let's wait and see what happens next He might stick to his words. I'd like that, even if it was just him, Bonehead, Gem, and Chris, or even Tony, if he's close enough to him. It'd be a cool "Liam and Friends" group that could put out some good music, and just have fun. |
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