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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 30, 2014 17:33:26 GMT -5
Honestly do t really care , this biggest band status is like who's number 1 in golf. It means nothing ....and even when oasis were huge in 95-96 to say they were the biggest in world is not really true , could they seel out stadiums then in states ? No. But bruce U2 , the stones could sell out stadiums worldwide always ..So we're they ever really " biggest " ? In UK yes but not worldwide , even if bruce , the stones , and U2 did nothing in 95-96. They would outsell oasis in states and globally concert wise ......as for coldplay there bigger but to me there rock on a different level , softer , safe , so yea theyll appeal to more , WHAT OASIS DID WAS spawn a new era of lad culture , football like crowds came to music , and yea they were bigger in UK than anyone , Coldplay may be bigger but there fans don't have that fervor , oasis tapped into a mindset. Does that make them biggest ? No. But it makes them special why they touched the UK culture more than coldplay ever will ... i think in 95-96 oasis were best band in world but to be biggest , globally you gotta sell out stadiums in America. They only got to msg 19000 capacity in 05 In 95 at there height bruce could tour usa and UK and sell out all stadiums that are WEMBLEY like ..THATS being big. But oasis were best. Hope that makes sense ....and yea coldplay put out hits. But they never changed speach or fashion or culture brief or not. Thsts special. Martins vanilla music may be big but it don't inspire that ........ And that's no knock on coldplay but to be biggest only shows popularity , best is different , i think oasis best music beats coldplay for 1 very important factor ....Oasis for HOWEVER BRIEF were able to cross into coldplay territory robbie territory by getting pop fans with WONDERWALL and the like but oasis are much more guitar rock .......coldplsy and robbie are more geared toward the pop and the girls that will always sell more , the fact oasis could play thefe for awhile shows how far they crossed over . They always wanted to be more stones than BEATLES , Ever been to a Coldplay concert? Their fans go bonkers. |
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Post by jordan71421 on Nov 30, 2014 17:46:23 GMT -5
Honestly do t really care , this biggest band status is like who's number 1 in golf. It means nothing ....and even when oasis were huge in 95-96 to say they were the biggest in world is not really true , could they seel out stadiums then in states ? No. But bruce U2 , the stones could sell out stadiums worldwide always ..So we're they ever really " biggest " ? In UK yes but not worldwide , even if bruce , the stones , and U2 did nothing in 95-96. They would outsell oasis in states and globally concert wise ......as for coldplay there bigger but to me there rock on a different level , softer , safe , so yea theyll appeal to more , WHAT OASIS DID WAS spawn a new era of lad culture , football like crowds came to music , and yea they were bigger in UK than anyone , Coldplay may be bigger but there fans don't have that fervor , oasis tapped into a mindset. Does that make them biggest ? No. But it makes them special why they touched the UK culture more than coldplay ever will ... i think in 95-96 oasis were best band in world but to be biggest , globally you gotta sell out stadiums in America. They only got to msg 19000 capacity in 05 In 95 at there height bruce could tour usa and UK and sell out all stadiums that are WEMBLEY like ..THATS being big. But oasis were best. Hope that makes sense ....and yea coldplay put out hits. But they never changed speach or fashion or culture brief or not. Thsts special. Martins vanilla music may be big but it don't inspire that ........ And that's no knock on coldplay but to be biggest only shows popularity , best is different , i think oasis best music beats coldplay for 1 very important factor ....Oasis for HOWEVER BRIEF were able to cross into coldplay territory robbie territory by getting pop fans with WONDERWALL and the like but oasis are much more guitar rock .......coldplsy and robbie are more geared toward the pop and the girls that will always sell more , the fact oasis could play thefe for awhile shows how far they crossed over . They always wanted to be more stones than BEATLES , Ever been to a Coldplay concert? Their fans go bonkers. The Coldplay concert I went to during the MX era in 2012 was absolutely out of this world, one of the greatest experiences of my life  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2014 17:48:05 GMT -5
Honestly do t really care , this biggest band status is like who's number 1 in golf. It means nothing ....and even when oasis were huge in 95-96 to say they were the biggest in world is not really true , could they seel out stadiums then in states ? No. But bruce U2 , the stones could sell out stadiums worldwide always ..So we're they ever really " biggest " ? In UK yes but not worldwide , even if bruce , the stones , and U2 did nothing in 95-96. They would outsell oasis in states and globally concert wise ......as for coldplay there bigger but to me there rock on a different level , softer , safe , so yea theyll appeal to more , WHAT OASIS DID WAS spawn a new era of lad culture , football like crowds came to music , and yea they were bigger in UK than anyone , Coldplay may be bigger but there fans don't have that fervor , oasis tapped into a mindset. Does that make them biggest ? No. But it makes them special why they touched the UK culture more than coldplay ever will ... i think in 95-96 oasis were best band in world but to be biggest , globally you gotta sell out stadiums in America. They only got to msg 19000 capacity in 05 In 95 at there height bruce could tour usa and UK and sell out all stadiums that are WEMBLEY like ..THATS being big. But oasis were best. Hope that makes sense ....and yea coldplay put out hits. But they never changed speach or fashion or culture brief or not. Thsts special. Martins vanilla music may be big but it don't inspire that ........ And that's no knock on coldplay but to be biggest only shows popularity , best is different , i think oasis best music beats coldplay for 1 very important factor ....Oasis for HOWEVER BRIEF were able to cross into coldplay territory robbie territory by getting pop fans with WONDERWALL and the like but oasis are much more guitar rock .......coldplsy and robbie are more geared toward the pop and the girls that will always sell more , the fact oasis could play thefe for awhile shows how far they crossed over . They always wanted to be more stones than BEATLES , Ever been to a Coldplay concert? Their fans go bonkers. There fans ok but I was talking more the fan in street , did there fans change culture ? Dress ? Speech ? No .thats all I meant. Anyway as I said there bigger , tnere also geared to masses .martin is squeaky clean , divorce or not more power to them but there fans did not create the fervor thsts oasis did on a national level , all I meant |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2014 17:50:06 GMT -5
And again im not i knocking Coldplay. , Robbie's fans went bonkers at his shows to . No argument. But they didn't change no matter how brief 12 18 months whstever you or noel said .....they didnt change culture ...that. is rare. ........ And Lennon2217 if you think about it that is why oasis are so special. You have said on so many occasions how stale they grew since 2000 and a lot of that is true , they've been gone now over 5 years , yet there fans stll haven't left this forum , pist concerts , debate them , curious to see Id coldplay forums years after there gone still have the mimmihopps. Lennons lib rains ECT ECT posting of there relevance. That's really what I meant about fervor , and according to you and rightly so there music has been basically stale , tired, repetitive since 00 mostly ....yet there fans still got the swagger , will coldplays ?? I think not but we shal see |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 30, 2014 17:52:27 GMT -5
Ever been to a Coldplay concert? Their fans go bonkers. The Coldplay concert I went to during the MX era in 2012 was absolutely out of this world, one of the greatest experiences of my life Exactly and their fan base at these shows is a broad spectrum of life yet in unison they go nuts. Plus Coldplay puts on a killer live experience. Chris Martin is a very underrated front man.  |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 30, 2014 17:57:01 GMT -5
And again im not i knocking Coldplay. , Robbie's fans went bonkers at his shows to . No argument. But they didn't change no matter how brief 12 18 months whstever you or noel said .....they didnt change culture ...that. is rare. ........ And Lennon2217 if you think about it that is why oasis are so special. You have said on so many occasions how stale they grew since 2000 and a lot of that is true , they've been gone now over 5 years , yet there fans stll haven't left this forum , pist concerts , debate them , curious to see Id coldplay forums years after there gone still have the mimmihopps. Lennons lib rains ECT ECT posting of there relevance. That's really what I meant about fervor , and according to you and rightly so there music has been basically stale , tired, repetitive since 00 mostly ....yet there fans still got the swagger , will coldplays ?? I think not but we shal see Anyone who has been on Coldplaying.com's forum knows they have a huge fan base on their forums and very active. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2014 18:00:47 GMT -5
And again im not i knocking Coldplay. , Robbie's fans went bonkers at his shows to . No argument. But they didn't change no matter how brief 12 18 months whstever you or noel said .....they didnt change culture ...that. is rare. ........ And Lennon2217 if you think about it that is why oasis are so special. You have said on so many occasions how stale they grew since 2000 and a lot of that is true , they've been gone now over 5 years , yet there fans stll haven't left this forum , pist concerts , debate them , curious to see Id coldplay forums years after there gone still have the mimmihopps. Lennons lib rains ECT ECT posting of there relevance. That's really what I meant about fervor , and according to you and rightly so there music has been basically stale , tired, repetitive since 00 mostly ....yet there fans still got the swagger , will coldplays ?? I think not but we shal see Anyone who has been on Coldplaying.com's fOorum knows they have a huge fan base on their forums and very active. I'll leave the coldplay forum to you You obviously don't see my point , coldplay never changed the culture of UK no matter how brief , that says something number 1 hits don't , Moving on ....... |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 30, 2014 18:01:11 GMT -5
The Coldplay concert I went to during the MX era in 2012 was absolutely out of this world, one of the greatest experiences of my life Exactly and their fan base at these shows is a broad spectrum of life yet in unison they go nuts. Plus Coldplay puts on a killer live experience. Chris Martin is a very underrated front man. They broadcasted a show from the Mylo Xyloto era on tv recently and it was AMAZING. Chris sounded and looked great as a frontman, the band sounded great, the visuals were great, the audience was veeeery enthusiastic. Great band, there's no denying that. There's a reason why they're so big. However, I do agree their music is safe and even a bit boring at times. Otherwise I love Coldplay. I think I've said nearly the same thing in a Coldplay thread recently. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2014 18:08:59 GMT -5
Great band, there's no denying thaht. There's a reason why they're so big. However, I do agree their music is safe and even a bit boring at times. Otherwise I love Coldplay. I think I've said nearly the same thing in a Coldplay thread recently. Yep safe and boring at times. All I been saying for a decade ......and when I see people cutting there hair like chris , , hear people try to speak like them and dress like them even for a brief time .....then I'll say they hit that note with the fans oasis did Not just the concert goers. But the general public. ..and yea there huge. Bigger than oasis no argument. But safe boring does sum it up a lot of the time |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2014 18:19:33 GMT -5
Lennon2217 just reread my post i was using your word troll IN NO WAY DIDI MEAN TO INFER YOU TROLL ANYTHING , whether we always agree or not is no big deal , but in.no way did I mean to imply your a troll you k ow I respect your view or I wouldn't waste my type Gonna edit that
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 30, 2014 18:45:21 GMT -5
Don't get it myself to be honest. Two cracking records, two average ones and one absolute abomination. Ghost Stories I gave a single listen and don't have much to say about that either positive or negative.
Arsed if they are bigger than Oasis were or would be if they reformed. Oasis to me are so much better in every department.
Record and sales are not always a good indicator of quality.
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Post by bestwick8 on Nov 30, 2014 19:59:54 GMT -5
I think oasis was definitely the bigger band than coldplay if you compare them at their peaks. the whole oasis culture movement and glastonbury was bigger than anything coldplay has ever done. wasn't oasis still pretty big in europe during the later years anyways?
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Dec 1, 2014 4:34:59 GMT -5
I think oasis was definitely the bigger band than coldplay if you compare them at their peaks. the whole oasis culture movement and glastonbury was bigger than anything coldplay has ever done. wasn't oasis still pretty big in europe during the later years anyways? Not here. They never really went huge here. |
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Post by mimmihopps on Dec 1, 2014 5:05:40 GMT -5
To me being "biggest" doesn't always mean "the best". Personally I don't want my most favourite bands to be bigger or the biggest in the world. (they won't be anyway). Oasis didn't have a huge fan base in Netherlands as UK, but we did have a big trust fan base. Don't forget den Bosch 1997, one of the best Oasis gigs. In 2005 they played at Heineken Music Hall with capacity of 5500 and in 2009 they've done same venue 2 nights, sold out. It was the last time when I bought ticket at my local ticket booth. I bought my ticket, then back to home. As soon as I got home, I read that they added second night as the first night was sold out within hour, so I picked my bike to back to the ticket booth again to get my ticket for the second night. Good times.  I still hate online ticket sale. I think in the European mainlands, Italy had the biggest Oasis fan base. |
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Post by matt on Dec 1, 2014 10:00:06 GMT -5
There's no doubting the fact Coldplay are much better live act (than latter Oasis - 90s Oasis I would kill to see) - at least they put some fucking effort into their live shows unlike latter Oasis. And I don't mean Chris Martin throwing himself around stage, I mean by actual performance wise they are lightyears ahead of the latter dull turgid Oasis sound. Plus they kill Glastonbury every time rather than the damp fart Oasis gave us in 2004.
How sad can it get - I like Oasis better but live I couldn't care less, plus their setlist became soooooooooooooooo boring and predictable.
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Post by headshrinker84 on Dec 1, 2014 12:45:01 GMT -5
Coldplay are so dull.
Can't stand Chris Martin as well.
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Post by squire on Dec 1, 2014 15:29:56 GMT -5
I respect Chris Martin but I find Coldplay boring. Good falling asleep music I suppose.lol
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Dec 1, 2014 20:02:06 GMT -5
I think i know what Bonehead's Barber meant. Of course they never really were the biggest band in the world since 00's, but i hope when and if they reunite it's gonna be loud. Depends on what conditions they will do that, but if they gonna pull the massive gigs again or even an album i hope that they'll be treated like the last big rock n roll band coming back for one more. Same like Led Zeppelin played this show on Wembley. You could hear from the tv about that, it was like the big news, big day, history you know. It'd be ultra sad if they reunite and no one fuckin' noticed. I think that's why Noel don't want to do it too, there is a bit of a risk in that, you never know these days. |
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Post by Cast on Dec 1, 2014 21:04:10 GMT -5
Coldplay need to hurry and do a follow up. Yeah they're still huge but Ghost Stories came and went way faster than their previous releases. At least in a public conscious sense. Granted they didn't really tour or promote it, but still...
Also Paradise and A Sky Full of Stars were big, but they weren't inescapable like Clocks, Speed of Sound or (especially) Viva La Vida. Paradise and ASFOS got to number 1 but they didn't stick as long. Again there's a bunch of factors that influence that (music scene, etc).
I don't really consider Coldplay rock n' roll but I'll agree they are the biggest pop/rock band with guitars but even they aren't as big as they used to be. Since Viva I'd say they've slowly been losing steam. Pop is in full control of the charts and its kinda scary. I'm looking at iTunes top 10 here in the US and its just horrible stuff. Swifty's worse song (blank space), boring ballad r&b (sam smith), kitsch throwback pop (All About that Bass), generic mass produced trash (Gomez and a fucking Jonas brother). Mainstream pop has been poor for a while now but it usually has a couple nice tunes in there. Not the case right now.
The fact that Ed Sheeran and Fall out Boy are the first two artists with guitars or could be considered pop/rock shows you just how bad its gotten.
Great mainstream rock n' roll isn't a thing right now but quality is bound to pick up.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 1, 2014 22:35:01 GMT -5
Coldplay need to hurry and do a follow up. Yeah they're still huge but Ghost Stories came and went way faster than their previous releases. At least in a public conscious sense. Granted they didn't really tour or promote it, but still... Also Paradise and A Sky Full of Stars were big, but they weren't inescapable like Clocks, Speed of Sound or (especially) Viva La Vida. Paradise and ASFOS got to number 1 but they didn't stick as long. Again there's a bunch of factors that influence that (music scene, etc). I don't really consider Coldplay rock n' roll but I'll agree they are the biggest pop/rock band with guitars but even they aren't as big as they used to be. Since Viva I'd say they've slowly been losing steam. Pop is in full control of the charts and its kinda scary. I'm looking at iTunes top 10 here in the US and its just horrible stuff. Swifty's worse song (blank space), boring ballad r&b (sam smith), kitsch throwback pop (All About that Bass), generic mass produced trash (Gomez and a fucking Jonas brother). Mainstream pop has been poor for a while now but it usually has a couple nice tunes in there. Not the case right now. The fact that Ed Sheeran and Fall out Boy are the first two artists with guitars or could be considered pop/rock shows you just how bad its gotten. Great mainstream rock n' roll isn't a thing right now but quality is bound to pick up. I think if you went inside the numbers you'd see Paradise was a big ass hit. Biggest selling rock single in 2012. |
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Post by Cast on Dec 1, 2014 23:58:05 GMT -5
Coldplay need to hurry and do a follow up. Yeah they're still huge but Ghost Stories came and went way faster than their previous releases. At least in a public conscious sense. Granted they didn't really tour or promote it, but still... Also Paradise and A Sky Full of Stars were big, but they weren't inescapable like Clocks, Speed of Sound or (especially) Viva La Vida. Paradise and ASFOS got to number 1 but they didn't stick as long. Again there's a bunch of factors that influence that (music scene, etc). I don't really consider Coldplay rock n' roll but I'll agree they are the biggest pop/rock band with guitars but even they aren't as big as they used to be. Since Viva I'd say they've slowly been losing steam. Pop is in full control of the charts and its kinda scary. I'm looking at iTunes top 10 here in the US and its just horrible stuff. Swifty's worse song (blank space), boring ballad r&b (sam smith), kitsch throwback pop (All About that Bass), generic mass produced trash (Gomez and a fucking Jonas brother). Mainstream pop has been poor for a while now but it usually has a couple nice tunes in there. Not the case right now. The fact that Ed Sheeran and Fall out Boy are the first two artists with guitars or could be considered pop/rock shows you just how bad its gotten. Great mainstream rock n' roll isn't a thing right now but quality is bound to pick up. I think if you went inside the numbers you'd see Paradise was a big ass hit. Biggest selling rock single in 2012. Here are the numbers for 2012 - www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/the-official-top-40-biggest-selling-singles-of-2012-revealed-1784/Gotye had by far the biggest rock single of the year. Then fun. (if you count them as rock). Those two songs were massive in a way paradise just wasn't. www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/the-top-20-rock-singles-and-albums-of-2011-revealed/Paradise was the biggest rock single in Britain in 2011 but no offense to the brits conquering there doesn't mean you conquer the world (see: Oasis, and Noel's UK success). Don't get me wrong Paradise was big, especially with that daft music video but the previous three songs that I mentioned were huge not big (not sure about sales) but just me hearing them. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 2, 2014 0:11:32 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure Paradise had a million downloads in America. That's insane. I felt like I couldn't escape that song in late 2011, early 2012. |
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Dec 2, 2014 0:40:21 GMT -5
I think an Oasis reunion would be massive. People went crazy over the split and the media is obsessed about a reunion. If they announced a reunion, it would be the most popular headline for months leading up to the next tour or the next album or the next single. Old fans would return, new fans would check them out...there would be no avoiding it.
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Post by Cast on Dec 2, 2014 11:17:09 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure Paradise had a million downloads in America. That's insane. I felt like I couldn't escape that song in late 2011, early 2012. A million is a lot but its not huge. Just look at the songs on this list. Our opinions might also be influenced because of where each of us live. The radio airplay differs from place to place. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_singles_in_the_United_StatesThose are inescapable songs. I'm still hearing Radioactive two years after its release. Hell even on my drive back up from Florida I heard Hey Soul Sister twice. Those songs are still going strong. I haven't heard Paradise in a public setting in probably a year. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 2, 2014 11:19:00 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure Paradise had a million downloads in America. That's insane. I felt like I couldn't escape that song in late 2011, early 2012. A million is a lot but its not huge. Just look at the songs on this list. Our opinions might also be influenced because of where each of us live. The radio airplay differs from place to place. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_singles_in_the_United_StatesThose are inescapable songs. I'm still hearing Radioactive two years after its release. Hell even on my drive back up from Florida I heard Hey Soul Sister twice. Those songs are still going strong. I haven't heard Paradise in a public setting in probably a year. King of Leon's Radioactive? I haven't heard that probably since 2011. I heard Paradise over the Thanksgiving Day weekend on TV and in a mall. Also haven't heard Train in a long long time. |
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