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Post by Jailbird on Sept 16, 2014 7:21:37 GMT -5
Oh I loved DOYS. It's just that the producer wasted it's full potential in my eyes. This |
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Post by Greedy's Mighty Sigh on Sept 16, 2014 7:35:14 GMT -5
]But just be a bit wary with journalists hyping it up before release - remember Dig Out Your Soul? Edith Bowman saying she'd heard the new album and that they were 'on fire' and 'they'd really hit good form', plus the NME saying it was 'really really great'? Dunno whatever happened to that album, I've yet to hear it.... Its called 'Opinions'. Maybe you should learn to respect other peoples viewpoints. Or are you the almighty holy man and everything you say is 100% correct? |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Sept 16, 2014 8:15:00 GMT -5
]But just be a bit wary with journalists hyping it up before release - remember Dig Out Your Soul? Edith Bowman saying she'd heard the new album and that they were 'on fire' and 'they'd really hit good form', plus the NME saying it was 'really really great'? Dunno whatever happened to that album, I've yet to hear it.... Its called 'Opinions'. Maybe you should learn to respect other peoples viewpoints. Or are you the almighty holy man and everything you say is 100% correct? You said exactly what I was thinking, if I'm being honest. That's what I think everytime someone disrespects someone elses opinions |
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Post by spaneli on Sept 16, 2014 8:21:38 GMT -5
Oh I loved DOYS. It's just that the producer wasted it's full potential in my eyes. This Huh? No. Poor songwriting and shoddy song selection had more to do with that than anything else. If the tracklisting is: Four Letter Word (I don't know, just picking a song from DGSS that might have been closed to being on a record at the time) Bag it Up The Turning The Shock of the Lightning Waiting for the Rapture Boy with the Blues Falling Down To be Where there's Life I Believe in All Soldier On Few people would be complaining about production. Once again, Sardy doesn't do anything that Noel doesn't want him to do. It's easy to make Sardy and ANY producer the bad guy, but in the end, it's the artist that is willing to take the advice of the producer who is most at fault. It's not Sardy's record. All the producer can do is suggest, it's up to the artist to listen and accept. People here act like people like Sardy and Lillywhite just picked up the album, stole it, brought it back, and tricked Noel, Oasis, and Beady Eye into releasing it. In the end, it always falls on the artist to make their own decisions for their own music. Blame the producer has become far too easy of a cop-out here as a cover for artists themselves making poor decisions. And I don't mean to single you out or anything, it's just something I've noticed lately that appears to be forum wide at the moment. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Sept 16, 2014 8:31:19 GMT -5
Well for me it wouldn't be different, since the songs I've got problems with the most productionwise, are still in that list.
Also, Noel himself has said that the choir on the Turning wasn't loud enough and that they should dominate the track so something happened there, because it ended up still not being loud enough. No idea why that is though.
The fact that they like the way it's produced, doesn't mean we have to.
SOTSOG is an album that sounds good, but the songs aren't there really.
You also left off I'm Outta Time, which I personay think is one of the best songs Liam has written. The Lennon bit at the end is horrible, yes, but the song itself isn't bad
This of course, is just all my opinion.
Oh and it's in a weird order because I had to edit it a few times.
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Post by spaneli on Sept 16, 2014 8:36:39 GMT -5
Well for me it wouldn't be different, since the songs I've got problems with the most productionwise, are still in that list. Also, Noel himself has said that the choir on the Turning wasn't loud enough and that they should dominate the track so something happened there, because it ended up still not being loud enough. No idea why that is though. The fact that they like the way it's produced, doesn't mean we have to. SOTSOG is an album that sounds good, but the songs aren't there really. I'm not saying we have to like the way it's produced, but even with the choirs not being loud enough, the Turning is still a good song. In the end, Sardy wouldn't have the stomach to go against what an artist truly wanted. If the choir wasn't loud on the Turning then Noel acquiesced. Just like he acquiesced to the concept of a psychedelic album for DOYS, just like he acquiesced to re-recording HFB's. Sardy does nothing without Noel's ultimate approval. |
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Post by You're My van der Waal on Sept 16, 2014 8:45:04 GMT -5
Well for me it wouldn't be different, since the songs I've got problems with the most productionwise, are still in that list. Also, Noel himself has said that the choir on the Turning wasn't loud enough and that they should dominate the track so something happened there, because it ended up still not being loud enough. No idea why that is though. The fact that they like the way it's produced, doesn't mean we have to. SOTSOG is an album that sounds good, but the songs aren't there really. I'm not saying we have to like the way it's produced, but even with the choirs not being loud enough, the Turning is still a good song. In the end, Sardy wouldn't have the stomach to go against what an artist truly wanted. If the choir wasn't loud on the Turning then Noel acquiesced. Just like he acquiesced to the concept of a psychedelic album for DOYS, just like he acquiesced to re-recording HFB's. Sardy does nothing without Noel's ultimate approval. Sadly though, Noel is often wrong. |
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Post by Jailbird on Sept 16, 2014 10:51:33 GMT -5
I actually mostly meant I also loved DOYS, the production wasn't bad. There were a few choices I didn't like but I know it's not Sardy's fault. |
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Post by LlAM on Sept 16, 2014 11:05:15 GMT -5
I hope he got Liam in to sing 9 of the 11 tracks.
How awesome would that be?
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Post by defmaybe00 on Sept 16, 2014 11:11:31 GMT -5
I hope he got Liam in to sing 9 of the 11 tracks.How awesome would that be? wtf |
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Post by LlAM on Sept 16, 2014 11:20:35 GMT -5
I hope he got Liam in to sing 9 of the 11 tracks.How awesome would that be? wtf Oops |
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Post by matt on Sept 16, 2014 11:43:21 GMT -5
]But just be a bit wary with journalists hyping it up before release - remember Dig Out Your Soul? Edith Bowman saying she'd heard the new album and that they were 'on fire' and 'they'd really hit good form', plus the NME saying it was 'really really great'? Dunno whatever happened to that album, I've yet to hear it.... Its called 'Opinions'. Maybe you should learn to respect other peoples viewpoints. Or are you the almighty holy man and everything you say is 100% correct? Jesus H Christ, the way you're talking it's as if I've walked into your house on Christmas Day and shat on the turkey. You're right though - it's all about opinions and that's mine, god knows why you're offended on a forum that is meant for opinions. |
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Post by Praetorian on Sept 16, 2014 11:43:27 GMT -5
Time has really flown by. Seems like just a short while NGHFB was released.
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Sept 16, 2014 11:58:44 GMT -5
Really ? Seems like a century to me...
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Sept 16, 2014 12:36:57 GMT -5
Come on Noel. Give us a 10 second preview of the new single at least. Get some more hype for it.
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Post by Let It Bleed on Sept 16, 2014 13:02:12 GMT -5
who does eva have to kidnap to get some release dates around here? Gracias. |
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Post by LlAM on Sept 16, 2014 13:06:20 GMT -5
Come on Noel. Give us a 10 second preview of the new single at least. Get some more hype for it. You've already heard it. |
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Sept 16, 2014 13:09:07 GMT -5
Its called 'Opinions'. Maybe you should learn to respect other peoples viewpoints. Or are you the almighty holy man and everything you say is 100% correct? You're right though - it's all about opinions and that's mine, god knows why you're offended on a forum that is meant for opinions. That is beautiful  You're right that those pre-release statements can't be taken for face value - HFB2 will not be the next DM. Everybody saying anything about it probably heard it exactly once, maybe not even all of the songs. I'd wait for independent journalists (i.e. not Noel's friends) to judge it, and even then, it's still highly personal (BE got everything from 0/10 to 8/10). |
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Sept 16, 2014 13:19:01 GMT -5
Come on Noel. Give us a 10 second preview of the new single at least. Get some more hype for it. You've already heard it. Is that confirmed? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2014 13:20:00 GMT -5
Come on Noel. Give us a 10 second preview of the new single at least. Get some more hype for it. You've already heard it. tell them the title then  |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Sept 16, 2014 13:27:50 GMT -5
Come on Noel. Give us a 10 second preview of the new single at least. Get some more hype for it. You've already heard it. Is that really Solve My Mystery/Revolution Song/whatever you want to call it? |
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Sept 16, 2014 13:52:28 GMT -5
who does eva have to kidnap to get some release dates around here? Gracias. Poor eva with you man  |
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Sept 16, 2014 14:16:54 GMT -5
You always think you're guaranteed, at the very least, a very solid record from Noel (i.e. being the sole songwriter). Even Be Here Now for all its faults and criticisms it receives isn't a bad record as the majority on here know only too well. I loved High Flying Birds because it was simply Noel writing all the songs again, just like the 90s - as such, it's miles preferable to Oasis albums 2000 onwards. But just be a bit wary with journalists hyping it up before release - remember Dig Out Your Soul? Edith Bowman saying she'd heard the new album and that they were 'on fire' and 'they'd really hit good form', plus the NME saying it was 'really really great'? Dunno whatever happened to that album, I've yet to hear it.... They had a version that only had the Noel written tunes on it. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 16, 2014 14:31:10 GMT -5
You always think you're guaranteed, at the very least, a very solid record from Noel (i.e. being the sole songwriter). Even Be Here Now for all its faults and criticisms it receives isn't a bad record as the majority on here know only too well. I loved High Flying Birds because it was simply Noel writing all the songs again, just like the 90s - as such, it's miles preferable to Oasis albums 2000 onwards. But just be a bit wary with journalists hyping it up before release - remember Dig Out Your Soul? Edith Bowman saying she'd heard the new album and that they were 'on fire' and 'they'd really hit good form', plus the NME saying it was 'really really great'? Dunno whatever happened to that album, I've yet to hear it.... That's why I can never "trust" friends of the band or music journalists who get an exclusive interview/listening party to the album. They never give you what you need to hear, only what the band wants the fans to hear.  |
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Sept 16, 2014 14:35:54 GMT -5
This is what he does after finishing the album. He is ready. Sitting there reading our forum and waiting for the right moment.  |
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