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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 18, 2014 10:10:47 GMT -5
To keep the trend that has developed over the last 8 years, here's the official Arsenal thread.
Wenger's finally spending some fucking money.
Signed: Sanchez Signed Debaucy
Added to Ozil from last year
With more signing to come. Things are starting to look tasty....
I CAN'T EVEN FIT RAMSEY AND CAZORLA IN THE STARTING 11:
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Debaucy -- Kocielny -- Mertesacker ----Gibbs
--------Khiedra/Bender --- Wilshere-------
Walcott -- --------Ozil -------------Podolski
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Subs: [New GK] Vermalean Monreal Oxlade-Chamberlaine Ramsey Cazorla Giroud --- --- Others: Rosicky Arteta Flamini Jenkinson Gnarby Sanogo Campbell
And
Abou "He's like a new signing" Diaby
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2014 10:14:04 GMT -5
UP THE ARSE !
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2014 10:16:43 GMT -5
The stadium crippled wenger .. Double edge sword ..they couldn't compete money wise at highbury ... But the emirates shackled him ... He never forgot how to coach ,.. He did go undefeated ... You don't forget that , your shackled by finance ... Give him money ,, and arsenal will be fine
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2014 10:19:37 GMT -5
It always makes me laugh ... People praise the coach , then decide he can't coach anymore , it's all about the board ,, if they don't wenger never would have sold Henry ...pires , wiltord , ect ect . They left for more money ...he built a team that kicked man utd ass ..and woulda stayed kicking ass ..but they couldn't afford ...shame ...
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 18, 2014 12:03:28 GMT -5
It always makes me laugh ... People praise the coach , then decide he can't coach anymore , it's all about the board ,, if they don't wenger never would have sold Henry ...pires , wiltord , ect ect . They left for more money ...he built a team that kicked man utd ass ..and woulda stayed kicking ass ..but they couldn't afford ...shame ... Finally we're moving on... Wenger was very transparent, he told the fans upfront that it would take many seasons for him to properly spend in the transfer market, because of the stadium. What he did was very astute, he balanced the budget while keeping us in the top 4. Which is what always made the Wenger In/Out debate so hard, and why I was constantly going between the two over the years - we weren't title contenders, bar 2007/2008 and 2013/2014, but he was so productive behind the scenes. I think the departure of David Dein circa 2007 was really the defining moment. He was the man behind the scenes and had a great working relationship with Wenger. Once DD left Wenger had to fill his role himself, immersing into too much effort for one man to do merely alone. We are now, finally, emerging post-stadium transition. Ozil was a sign last summer, but Arsene still managed to cock-up that transfer window. Because if he did last summer with what he's already done this summer, we would have won the league easy. But, at the very least, it built a good basis for us to add to this forthcoming season. The thing with contemporary Arsenal, is at the end of every season I - and the fan base alike - know and spout that our squad is almost there, and with the right 2 or 3 summer signings we'll be grand for the following season. But each summer, he has failed to deliver in the market, while hemorrhaging key players each summer along the way (Fabregas, Adebayor, Nasri, Van Persie). Until now. This very moment we are adding to last season's strong team, without losing anyone of key note (I loved Sagna, although he couldn't cross, but he's not as key as those mentioned above, and we got a suitable replacement already signed). Long gone are the days of Almunia, Denison, Clichy, Silvestre, Squalicci, Gervinho, Bendtner et al. Absolutely diabolical. It really is amazing, looking back at that squad, that Wenger kept us in the top 4 with that type of utter, utter dross. I still think Chelsea have the strongest team by far, but they also have Mourihno who I think is vastly overrated and is a difficult personality in the dressing room, especially amongst an over abundance of prima donnas. So while on paper, Chelsea should win the league, we've seen in the recent past how they have messed up such similar prospects. Man Utd are still in incredibly poor shape, though. That team needs a complete overhaul. Liverpool should be worried, too, with the loss of Suraez. Chelsea and Citeh have the strongest squad. Then Arsenal. Then Liverpool. Then Man Utd. Then Tottenham. So one would deduce that the top of the table will look as such: 1. Chelsea 2. Man City 3. Arsenal 4. Liverpool 5. EVERTON (?)/Man Utd 6. Tottenham But the Premiership is filled with weekly drama, subplots, twists & turns, ebbs & flows, inconsistently within the consistency, all of which is why following this league is so fascinating. I actually think this season will be even closer and more exciting than last. If that is the case, fasten your seat belts, and hold on to the handle. Nevermind Internationals and the World Cup. And blockbuster movies, and tv soap operas, too, for that matter. The Premiership is the best entertainment one can get. 9 months of enthralling action kicks off in one month. I can't bloody-well wait. Up the Arse!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2014 12:56:12 GMT -5
1. Chelsea 2. Man City 3. Liverpool 4. Arsenal
13. Man United!
My predictions there, Arsenal will most likely go through a very good patch again but then slowly slide into their favourite position, 4th. Maybe a bit of a long shot there with United but I'm hoping they'll "do a Rovers" and wind up being relegated in a couple of years!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2014 13:41:14 GMT -5
My heart says Liverpool City Chelsea United Asresnal My head says Chelsea City Liverpool United Arsenal
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Post by allingoodtime on Jul 20, 2014 4:53:20 GMT -5
What do you mean finally spending money lol, you spent like 50 million on a player like Ozil (huge waste of money) while clubs like Juve signed:
Llorente (free) Pirlo (free) Pogba (free) Tevez (12 mil) Vidal (10.5 mil) Barzagli (400k)
and it still doesn't add up to Ozil
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Post by matt on Jul 20, 2014 8:37:43 GMT -5
Ever since the Invincibles, he's had to build a team build on financial prudence. He's got a degree in economics, so he's smart enough not to put the club under financial strain, but as a result, he's been basically managing in a straitjacket. Some years the club has been desperately trying to keep their head above the water, but as of now, after so many years, I genuinely believe Arsenal are in a position to financially challenge the big spenders for the first time ever in fact.
The signing of Ozil surely suggested that - I cannot believe that he wasn't given assurances by Wenger that much more quality players would be brought to the club. Because surely world class players in their prime just don't move to clubs where there is an emphasis on just buying young and unproven players?
In my opinion, the pressure on Wenger increases with a quality side. I've always defended him for the prudence and being able to keep Arsenal in the mix over the last decade, if not being able to claim so many trophies (but with the opposing big spenders in the money spinning Premier League, it is always going to be that other leagues to claim trophies on financially prudent) If he can obtain a top top side for the first time since the Invincibles, then we can only really assess whether he has 'lost the golden touch'. I hope he proves all those doubters wrong - there is no other man in football who has influenced my perceptions and beliefs on football than Wenger. It's a game about winning of course, but the 'poetry in motion' is what separates football from all other sports, allowing the expression of creativity and flair in England - completely at odds with the overly macho, physical and neanderthal approach of traditional English football which I detest.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 20, 2014 9:29:05 GMT -5
The signing of Ozil surely suggested that - I cannot believe that he wasn't given assurances by Wenger that much more quality players would be brought to the club. Because surely world class players in their prime just don't move to clubs where there is an emphasis on just buying young and unproven players? There's a very strong parallel with 1995/96 - 1997/98, with 2013/2014 & 2014/15, which bodes well.Mid-1990s Arsenal:In 1995, we signed Dennis Bergkamp (and to a lesser extent, David Platt) which was a huge turning point for the club. The first bit of foreign quality arriving at Highbury. It marked a shift. By the start of the 1997/98 season we added: Nicholas Anelka & Patrick Vieira (1996), and then Emannuel Petit, and the biggest signing, Marc Overmars (1997)(who still ranks as one of my favorite Arsenal players), with a few good additional squad additions (Gilles Grimandi, Alex Manninger, and even Christopher Wreh played an influential part - prequal to Sanogo? We'll see if that comparison holds water). Over three seasons we added a total of 6 influential players. Which led to the following improvements:League Final Positions (Mid-90s):1994/95 - 12th (51 pts) 1995/96 - 5th (63 pts) 1996/97 - 3rd (68 pts) 1997/98 - 1st, Champions (78 pts)^Improvement Every Year (Both in position AND points total).Now lets look at Contemporary Arsenal:Signing Ozil at the 2013/14 was a turning point analogous to the Bergkamp signing of 1995. I think Ozil had a decent first season, and I think he'll be grand this coming season after setting in, and having better players around him. And it was a huge shift in club policy, just as the Bergkamp signing was in 1995. For the following 2014/15 season we have signed an accomplished right back in Debauchy, and a potent striker in Sanchez, with more signings to come. Just like the mid-1990s, this may take three full seasons to complete. We probably won't win the league this season, but if we continue to build, as we did in the trilogy of those 90s seasons, we may emerge as a very strong contender for the 2015/16 season. Over 2 seasons we've added 3 influential players - halfway to the 90s amount AND halfway through the amount of years it took in the 90s, LEADING to the following improvements):League Final Positions (Contemporary): *2010/11 - 4th (68 pts) *2011/12 - 3rd (70 pts) 2012/13 - 4th (73 pts) 2013/14 - 4th (79 pts) 2014/15 - ?? 2015/16 - ??*Has no comparison with the 90s. Only included these seasons just to show the trend - the improvement over the last few seasons, in lieu of the inability to compare to the upcoming seasons (of course). ^Improvement Every Year (I would dare say this season will be an improvement on last, be it position and/or points total). This is all speculation. It could go all tits up. But the analogies, comparisons, and similarities are hard to ignore. After all, the past is the best way to understanding the future. Keep the faith. Ye boat is finally steady. Good times ahead.
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Post by matt on Jul 20, 2014 11:22:28 GMT -5
1. Chelsea 2. Man City 3. Liverpool 4. Arsenal 13. Man United! My predictions there, Arsenal will most likely go through a very good patch again but then slowly slide into their favourite position, 4th. Maybe a bit of a long shot there with United but I'm hoping they'll "do a Rovers" and wind up being relegated in a couple of years! I think Chelsea too. Mourinho has got to be bluffing when he says their transfer business is finished. Sure, they've spent about £20 million more than last summer, but that's not taking into account the net spend - the quite frankly brilliant bit of business of selling David Luiz for £40 million.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 14:12:27 GMT -5
mentally weak side season after season falling away when it comes the end off the season which can't be down to the money.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jul 22, 2014 14:16:42 GMT -5
Ozil is a great player btw
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Post by allingoodtime on Jul 24, 2014 4:30:04 GMT -5
Sort of offtopic but I really enjoy watching the EPL even though i'm a Juventus fan, but the fact that theres so much money involved in England is disappointing tbh..and I think thats why the English don't do well in international tournaments..its cos they invest too much into foreigners and don't focus as much on the local talent and nowadays players seem to be more interested in their pay cheques than their clubs badge..
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Post by shinealight on Jul 24, 2014 4:40:47 GMT -5
brilliant players on board, I just don ' t trust in Wenger anymore.
Might be interesting what Van Gaal will do with united.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2014 5:41:56 GMT -5
Sort of offtopic but I really enjoy watching the EPL even though i'm a Juventus fan, but the fact that theres so much money involved in England is disappointing tbh..and I think thats why the English don't do well in international tournaments..its cos they invest too much into foreigners and don't focus as much on the local talent and nowadays players seem to be more interested in their pay cheques than their clubs badge.. this is false as England were unsuccessful most of the time before the premier league and all the money it's a bigger problem. In 2008 Manchester United played Chelsea in the champions league final Manchester United had 6 English players in the starting line up, Wes Brown, Rio Ferdinand, Owen Hargreaves, Paul Scholes, Michael Carrick and Wayne Rooney. Chelsea had four English players, John Terry, Ashley Cole, Frank Lampard and Joe Cole. Yet England failed to qualify for Euro 2008. The problem most of the time for England is failing to get the performances for England that the players give at their clubs, and i don't think it's down to a lack of effort.
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Post by shinealight on Jul 25, 2014 6:05:05 GMT -5
Balotelli to Arsenal? would be fun to watch .... poor Arseman
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 13:05:49 GMT -5
Drogba might have actually been a good signing for Arsenal, an experienced Premier League striker is something they could really be doing with.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2014 9:33:11 GMT -5
I would watch out if i was Wenger as Moyes started of last season with a comfortable community shield win.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 16, 2014 13:30:40 GMT -5
Poor performance, especially from Cazorla and Wilshere. But a sign of champions is winning when playing badly. Rambo. He scores when he wants.
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Post by allingoodtime on Aug 16, 2014 17:20:25 GMT -5
United to finish 5th if they remain with this team..forget about just Vidal, you guys need to sign 2 quality centre backs, Vidal (even though I hope Juve keep him at all costs) and even a winger if possible.
Nani and Young are both good but I think their time in Manchester should be over by now..
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 23, 2014 13:20:01 GMT -5
Picking up more points right at the death, when not playing well. Well in, lads.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Sept 6, 2014 17:56:28 GMT -5
Welbeck? Heh. Really, Arsene?
No defensive midfielder signing? 'the fuck? Really, Arsene?
Arsenal's early season performances? Fuck this shit. Really, Arsene?
We're yet again two players short. And we've yet to gel/click. Abysmal performances, thus far.
Same shit, different season.
Optimism fades as quickly as Man United's prospects.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Sept 12, 2014 20:02:46 GMT -5
Will miss Arsenal - Citeh tomorrow as I will be arriving on Queen Mary's campus as the match kicks off. I'm gutted I'm missing such a big match. Come on you Gooners!!
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Sept 20, 2014 9:50:10 GMT -5
Maybe the dozy Frenchman knows what he's doing after all. Ozil & Welbeck within two minutes!! Three points on the way.... And just as I finish typing that sentence, it's 3 nil to the good. A little perspective: - W: Arsenal 2-1 Crystal Places: Expected Win.
- D: Everton 2-2 Arsenal: Salvaged a draw at a very difficult place to go. Not a bad result.
- D: Leicester 1-1 Arsenal: Very disappointing performance and result.
- D: Arsenal 2 -2 Citeh: Could have won. Could have also lost. Mixed feelings, but not a bad result.
- W: Aston Villa 0-3: Winning at the half. Three points in the bag at a difficult place to go, against a team in form.
Not really the disaster that the three consecutive draws would suggest. Leicester was the only disappointing result thus far. Glimpses vs. Citeh, and now our first finally commanding performance of the season vs. Villa, it's due to be pressing on with.
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