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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2014 9:11:48 GMT -5
To be honest, I don't notice any differences on CD1. The demos do sound better and there are some nice rarities on CD3, but the DM songs sound the same to my regular, average ears Your ears aren't average ! There normal , it's the tech wannabes that dissect that hear the shit that means nothing to most... I still will take my physical grafitti on vynil over anything ever made and if you told me I only could listen to it with no cd , DVD , remaster , I would give a fuck less
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Post by themanwithnoname on May 20, 2014 9:12:41 GMT -5
Clearer, louder and a little bit brighter. I'm not disappointed, just disheartened as I was hoping for a bit more. Still, 'Listen Up' sounds much better as does 'Fade Away' and them two we're definitely the worst sounding of the bunch along with It's Good To Be Free, which still fucking hurts my ears. That song has horrible production. Seriously. Well anyway, if it ain't broke, don't fix it... As for Be Here Now, I cannot fuckin' wait! I think we're going to be disappointed with the Be Here Now remaster. Chances are we won't really notice much difference. What they should have done was done a proper re-edit like Let It Be Naked. That would have been worth a listen. My main reason for buying these remasters is the rarities that are included, not the remaster itself.
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Post by LlAM on May 20, 2014 9:56:28 GMT -5
FFS people its a REMASTER not a REMIX !!!!!!
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Post by jaq515 on May 20, 2014 10:14:07 GMT -5
Your a legend thank you This is stolen of twitter (I think he's a member here too) imgur.com/a/fOTqvAwesome. Thank you very much for they looks great!
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2014 11:01:28 GMT -5
FFS people its a REMASTER not a REMIX !!!!!! Well said.
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Post by spyrosfab4 on May 20, 2014 11:23:19 GMT -5
FFS people its a REMASTER not a REMIX !!!!!! It is a remaster ,but it is ine of the worst ever.They could have made these songs more like the vinyl versions(not brickwalled and clipping that is)but crisper and clearer.Instead they went for full on,obnoxious loudness which destroys the catcy tunes,rather than present them in a better way,the way a remaster should do. Idiots who don't care about sound quality,will like these.But they are pretty much the same as the old cd's with some EQ changes.Really not worth it.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on May 20, 2014 11:59:18 GMT -5
Liam warned you all a couple months ago...
"HOW CAN YOU REMASTER SOMETHING THATS ALREADY BEING MASTERED.DONT BUY INTO IT.LET IT BE LG X"
I think what it comes down to is that the recording technology hasn't dramatically changed since the 90's. Which is why you won't get the dramatic effect you were all expecting. I mean, when all The Beatles albums were remastered in 2009, that was some 50 years after their earlier releases. 50 years for dramatic changes in basic recording and much better sound quality.
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Post by berndie on May 20, 2014 12:05:15 GMT -5
a remaster is not a remix. and dm was on of the first extreme compressed albums, so i dont know what you can do to remaster...altough i love its sound. as for bhn i dont know what we can expect, since there would be some massive changes in the mix nessacary.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on May 20, 2014 12:11:49 GMT -5
a remaster is not a remix. and dm was on of the first extreme compressed albums, so i dont know what you can do to remaster...altough i love its sound. as for bhn i dont know what we can expect, since there would be some massive changes in the mix nessacary. They should do a straight up remix of Be Here Now. Make it the album it should have been originally.
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Post by headshrinker84 on May 20, 2014 12:13:47 GMT -5
Liam warned you all a couple months ago... "HOW CAN YOU REMASTER SOMETHING THATS ALREADY BEING MASTERED.DONT BUY INTO IT.LET IT BE LG X" I think what it comes down to is that the recording technology hasn't dramatically changed since the 90's. Which is why you won't get the dramatic effect you were all expecting. I mean, when all The Beatles albums were remastered in 2009, that was some 50 years after their earlier releases. 50 years for dramatic changes in basic recording and much better sound quality. The remasted version of Nirvana's In Utero which was originally released in 93 sounds great unlike the definitely maybe remaster.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on May 20, 2014 12:17:08 GMT -5
Liam warned you all a couple months ago... "HOW CAN YOU REMASTER SOMETHING THATS ALREADY BEING MASTERED.DONT BUY INTO IT.LET IT BE LG X" I think what it comes down to is that the recording technology hasn't dramatically changed since the 90's. Which is why you won't get the dramatic effect you were all expecting. I mean, when all The Beatles albums were remastered in 2009, that was some 50 years after their earlier releases. 50 years for dramatic changes in basic recording and much better sound quality. The remasted version of Nirvana's In Utero which was originally released in 93 sounds great unlike the definitely maybe remaster. I wouldn't know, but I'd have to see the consensus on it. Could just be placebo. Or it could have to do with the equipment they used at the time of the recording. Some bands like to use older equipment to achieve a specific sound.
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Post by mimmihopps on May 20, 2014 13:03:05 GMT -5
To be honest, I don't notice any differences on CD1. The demos do sound better and there are some nice rarities on CD3, but the DM songs sound the same to my regular, average ears Your ears aren't average ! There normal , it's the tech wannabes that dissect that hear the shit that means nothing to most... I still will take my physical grafitti on vynil over anything ever made and if you told me I only could listen to it with no cd , DVD , remaster , I would give a fuck less I agree with eva and kalas, I don't know anything about producing/remix/mastering/remastering. I just love music. Why I bought the box set is for my collection and for the book. I didn't own DM vinyl, so I could have only bought 3 CD set and vinyl. I think to buying only 3 CD set and vinyl would have been the most wise choice. I paid a lot for it, but I don't regret that I bought it even it's quite rip-off. If I'm fool to pay for it even I don't notice any difference in remaster, I would be glad to being fool cos I know what I want/wanted and what I love.
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Post by thomuk2006 on May 20, 2014 13:24:36 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind that much... but the cd came with a big sticker saying "remastered" as if that was one of the main selling points..... Love having all the b-sides on one disc though and the rare disc is great too...
I predict that I will be even more disappointed with the "remaster" of Be Here Now.... if it sounds just the same as the 97 CD. The sound on that album is AWFUL, I remember for years I thought I had scratched my CD! Especially on Magic Pie! Found at years later it sounds just as awful on spotify!
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on May 20, 2014 13:33:12 GMT -5
I think the most important thing about any remasters is that people who doing it will always hear the biggest difference beacuse they hear stuff through a studio monitors, most of us don't.
Something that in studio sounds like a huge difference on headphones or regular speakers can be unnoticeable. It's always looks like that with any remasters beacuse the producers are very careful to not overdo and the effect is that they just clean the tracks up.
Otherwise people would be going " They ruined Definitely Maybe, Shakermaker sounds like stoner rock" or something.
It's a shame though, i had high hopes in Oasis case. That compression and scrathy sound was the only downside of first three Oasis albums. I hope they will do it proper with Be Here Now at least. It's an incredible record, just let it breathe a bit more. Remastering can be the real cure for songs like Dyou Know What I Mean or My Big Mouth.
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Post by Jgrp on May 20, 2014 14:34:57 GMT -5
I haven't bothered buying it as I thought it would be disappointing (which it seems reading on here!)
I find it's messing with history a bit too.
I'd rather a remix album instead as that isn't trying to better something that's got a firm placein history - it would just be a bit of fun instead and the albums wouldn't be compared to each other... Whereas they are now.
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Post by allingoodtime on May 20, 2014 14:39:26 GMT -5
Hows it doing in the charts?
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Post by Gas Panic on May 20, 2014 14:41:21 GMT -5
Hows it doing in the charts? That's a good point, its got to chart relatively well surely? Doesn't a few thousand generally guarantee a top ten placing?
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Post by spyrosfab4 on May 20, 2014 14:56:48 GMT -5
Fargk you Noel,Owen Morris and whoever else was responsible for this shit. These idiots had one opportunity to make these AMAZING SONGS sound fresh and MUSICAL but instead they gave us the SAME OBNOXIOUS BRICKWALLED AND CLIPPING shitfest with only some EQ changes. Listen to the needledrops from the 2009 vinyl floating around instead. They could have made these songs more like the vinyl versions(not brickwalled and clipping that is)but crisper and clearer, the way a remaster should do. Idiots who don't care about sound quality,will like these.Really not worth it. Listen to the morning glory remaster some guy posted here It is not perfect,but it is much better in parts from the official cd. Lazy unimaginative farkerz and too bad about the great tunes.
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Post by bardes on May 20, 2014 15:04:48 GMT -5
I don't know.. but this ;Morning Glory remastered; is awesome. And it's unofficially.
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Post by nickpop on May 20, 2014 15:11:55 GMT -5
Who was the bloke on twitter who told everyone not to buy into it?
LET IT BE.
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Post by His Royal Noelness on May 20, 2014 15:12:41 GMT -5
There really is no need for everyone to start a new thread to share their opinion. There's a thread about the remaster already, why can't we keep everything in there?
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Post by defmaybe00 on May 20, 2014 15:15:55 GMT -5
It won't definitely chart at number 1, but top 5 would be great
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Post by teadrinker on May 20, 2014 15:18:20 GMT -5
Remaster. Not a remix, which is what that YouTube one is.
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Post by His Royal Noelness on May 20, 2014 15:20:19 GMT -5
It's funny. The majority of people that have a problem with the remaster are the people who didn't buy it. I see people complaining about the box set and calling it overpriced yet very few (if any) that bought it have complained about it. I got my box set today and I love it. Sure it's expensive but I was happy to pay the price. If it ends up being cheaper 6 months down the line I won't care. I have it and I love. If I can afford the other two albums when they come out I'll also buy them.
As for the remaster itself. is there a major difference? No, there isn't. Is there a difference? Yes. The album is louder, brighter and some instruments shine through a bit better. And no, this isn't a placebo effect but then again I do have some audio production training so I am going to notice these things better than some others.
Those hoping for a decompressed version of the album will be disappointed but I never expected that anyway. The album is meant to be loud and in your face. Anything else would loose the feel of the album (although the 2009 vinyl release is probably the best sounding version out there).
So yeah, if you're expecting massive changes you're going to be disappointed. Personally, I'm looking forward to listening to it with a decent set of headphones later on.
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Post by jaq515 on May 20, 2014 15:21:18 GMT -5
Hopefully think depends whether the box sets are eligible for the charts as lot of fans picked this up.
It's obv not gonna beat Coldplay to #1 and doubt be top 5 but let's hope
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