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Post by warewolf95 on Feb 10, 2014 16:36:12 GMT -5
Ok, me being the ever-obsessive categorizer that I am, I'm always making mixes of albums and things (as far as tracks and tracklisting go) just for the sake of curiosity. So, since we have the SOTSOG demos, the released album, and the released b-sides, I figured I would make a version of the album using the tracklisting of the demos, but using the released tracks (aside from Revolution Song, of course) I swear now, SOTSOG is MUCH better in this form. I always loved the album but this really made it a great album instead of a good one. Also, I think the album has a much better flow in this configuration as well 1. Go Let It Out 2. I Can See a Liar 3. Put Yer Money Where your Mouth Is 4. Who Feels Love 5. Little James 6. Revolution Song 7. Carry Us All 8. Where Did It All Go Wrong? 9. Gas Panic 10. Full On 11. One Way Road 12. Sunday Morning Call 13. Just Getting Older 14. Cigarettes In Hell 15. Let's All Make Believe 16. Roll It Over ^I mean, look at that and tell me that doesn't make a fucking great album  PS - I know Full On isn't in the demos, but it deserved to be there so I tried to put it in a fitting spot |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2014 17:35:17 GMT -5
For me, the best I can do with that era's stuff is:
SIDE A
01. Let's All Make Believe
02. Go Let It Out
03. Sunday Morning Call
04. Who Feels Love?
05. Cigarettes In Hell
SIDE B
06. Fuckin' In The Bushes
07. Where Did It All Go Wrong?
08. Gas Panic!
09. Just Getting Older
10. Roll It Over
Not the same league as the first two albums, but I feel it has a more consistent tone than the official SOTSOG track list. LOVE having 'Let's All Make Believe' as an opener as I feel it sets the tone, and definitely prefer the 3 b-sides to the 3 tracks I've swapped out (Put Yer Money Where Yer Mouth Is, I Can See A Liar, Little James). Fuckin' In The Bushes to kick off side 2 feels nice as well.
In truth, I'm not a massive fan of Sunday Morning Call or Who Feels Love (and actually have a bit of a soft spot for I Can See A Liar, awful lyric aside) but I'd certainly favour the above to the official track list.
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Feb 10, 2014 19:49:51 GMT -5
1. Fuckin' In The Bushes - Great tune, great opener. Love it
2. Go Let It Out - Lot's of sentimental value to this tune, for me.
3. Who Feels Love - Groovy and a nice way to slow down a fairly fast paced opener
4. Revolution Song - Liam on vocals, though...
5. Where Did It All Go Wrong - When I think of this album I think of this song.. it gets shit but i love it.
6. Let's All Make Believe - One of the most inspired pieces of work by Noel from around this time
7. Gas Panic - THE most inspired piece of work by Noel from around this time!!
8. One Way Road - Paul Weller's favourite tune and one of mine, too
9. Full On - See 4
10. Roll It Over - This song gives me chills
If you look at my history you will see that I love (well, strongly like) Little James and have obviously not included it. I think that if Little James was a B-Side then it would be a lot more respected. I think that this is the best compilation that SOTSOG could be!
Great thread!!
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Post by WirralRiddler on Feb 10, 2014 20:43:42 GMT -5
1.Fucking in the Bushes
2.Go Let it Out
3.Who Feels Love
4.Carry Us All
5.Gas Panic
6.Where did it all go wrong
7.Lets all make believe
8.Full On
9.Sunday Morning Call
10.Roll it over
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 10, 2014 22:22:46 GMT -5
It's extremely hard to change the presentation of SOTSOG because Noel sang so many album tracks and b-sides. By adding more of them, it becomes a Noel dominated record. If anything, this album needed more Liam sung songs.
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Post by Headmaster on Feb 10, 2014 22:30:22 GMT -5
1. Fuckin' In The Bushes
2. Go Let It Out
3. Who Feels Love
4. Full On - With Liam singing
5. Let's All Make Believe
6. Gas Panic
7. Where Did It All Go Wrong
8. One Way Road
9. Cigarretes in Hell - With Liam singing
10. Roll It Over
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Post by unionpat on Feb 11, 2014 2:13:25 GMT -5
I like warewolf's order. As good as the flow from GLIO to Who Feels Love is, they're both lengthy and you really need a breather after the two.
I just don't get the infatuation with Let's All Make Believe! Innane lyrics, and just bad! And Little James definitely a B-side! Heck, D-side! Noel must cringe whenever he hears that on the proper album. Oasis has few bad songs, but these are them. Well, those and Born on a Different Cloud!
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Post by dennizz on Feb 11, 2014 3:28:17 GMT -5
01 Fuckin In The Bushes
02 Go Let It Out
03 Let's All Make Believe
04 Just Getting Older
05 Revolution Song (liam on vocals)
06 Gas Panic!
07 Where Did It All Go Wrong
08 Full On (liam on vocals)
09 One Way Road (with second verse)
10 Roll It Over
not a lot of rock n roll going on in them days, still would make a nice album
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Post by freddy838 on Feb 11, 2014 4:18:23 GMT -5
Fuckin in the Bushes
Go Let It Out
Who Feels Love (like that version Noel and Gem did for MTV)
I Can See A Liar
Where Did It All Go Wrong (like the demo version, the drum loop is great)
Gas Panic
Full On (Liam vocals)
One Way Road
Lets All Make Believe
Roll It Over
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Post by themanwithnoname on Feb 11, 2014 5:47:51 GMT -5
It's extremely hard to change the presentation of SOTSOG because Noel sang so many album tracks and b-sides. By adding more of them, it becomes a Noel dominated record. If anything, this album needed more Liam sung songs. Very true. I've tried doing this before and am always a good couple of tracks short. My favourite songs from this era are the following: Go Let It Out Let's All Make Believe Carry Us All Gas Panic Where Did It All Go Wrong? Roll It Over There's some great tunes in there but too much of the rest just feels like filler. I'm not as big a fan of Cigarettes in Hell and Full On as other people are - although Liam singing the latter would help. FITB is decent but it doesn't really fit in with the rest of the album. Despite what he's said since, I still think Noel was only a couple or three songs away from a really strong record. In my book SOTSOG in its original form was still an improvement on Be Here Now. It's a bit different and somewhat darker to the other Oasis albums. It's like their Empire Strikes Back. |
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Post by themanwithnoname on Feb 11, 2014 6:15:02 GMT -5
6. Revolution Song 7. Carry Us All 8. Where Did It All Go Wrong? 9. Gas Panic 10. Full On 11. One Way Road 12. Sunday Morning Call 13. Just Getting Older 14. Cigarettes In Hell That's a run of eight Noel-sung tracks out of nine! |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 11, 2014 8:33:49 GMT -5
6. Revolution Song 7. Carry Us All 8. Where Did It All Go Wrong? 9. Gas Panic 10. Full On 11. One Way Road 12. Sunday Morning Call 13. Just Getting Older 14. Cigarettes In Hell That's a run of eight Noel-sung tracks out of nine! The signs of a solo career were budding even in 1999!  |
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Feb 11, 2014 9:23:12 GMT -5
1)Go let it out
2)I can see a liar
3)who feels love
4)Cigarettes in hell
5)Lets all make believe
6)Fucking in the bushes
7)Little James
8)Gas Panic
9)where did it all go wrong
10)roll it over
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Post by warewolf95 on Feb 11, 2014 10:22:47 GMT -5
6. Revolution Song 7. Carry Us All 8. Where Did It All Go Wrong? 9. Gas Panic 10. Full On 11. One Way Road 12. Sunday Morning Call 13. Just Getting Older 14. Cigarettes In Hell That's a run of eight Noel-sung tracks out of nine! Ok, forget that point for a moment and its still fucking great Hell, Joey Ramone only sang half of the last few Ramones album splitting duties with CJ, the bassist, so why not pretend Noel and Liam did the same? haha In other words, shhhh....no words...only dreams..... Also, I've always thought Sunday Morning Call would sound good with Liam on vocals, so lets pretend.... |
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Post by warewolf95 on Feb 11, 2014 10:34:58 GMT -5
It's extremely hard to change the presentation of SOTSOG because Noel sang so many album tracks and b-sides. By adding more of them, it becomes a Noel dominated record. If anything, this album needed more Liam sung songs. Yea, good point. BUT, forgetting that point for a moment, isn't this a fucking great listen?  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2014 14:57:31 GMT -5
The Little By Little demo was recorded in this period was it not?
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Post by deadman on Feb 11, 2014 15:16:43 GMT -5
The Little By Little demo was recorded in this period was it not? As was Force of Nature, and Idler's Dream. For Noel to keep on saying he had a lack of material for that album is proving to be utter nonsense. For what it's worth 1. Fuckin' In The Bushes 2. Go Let It Out 3. Who Feels Love 4. Force of Nature 5. Revolution Song 6. Gas Panic 7. Let's All Make Believe 8. Little By Little 9. Idler's Dream 10. Where Did It All Go Wrong 11. Just Getting Older 12. Roll It Over That's going on the best songs, now who sung them of course. |
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Post by allingoodtime on Feb 11, 2014 16:07:48 GMT -5
If I could do something different and completely change the way Oasis released their songs and waited a few more years till this album was released.
I'd have waited to release some b-sides and put them on SOTSOG instead:
1) Fucking in the bushes
2) Go let it out
3) The Hindu Times
4) Who feels love
5) The Masterplan
6) Songbird
7) Stop crying your heart out
8) Little by little
9) Gas Panic
10) Roll it over
Other b-sides should have been on Be Here Now (like acquiesce)
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Post by mkoasis on Feb 13, 2014 0:07:53 GMT -5
Hell, Joey Ramone only sang half of the last few Ramones album splitting duties with CJ, the bassist Nice to see another Ramones fan on here I really like SOTSOG as it is, bar a small tweaking. Here's what I'd do. 1. Fuckin in the Bushes 2. Go Let It Out 3. Who Feels Love? 4. Put Yer money Where Yer Mouth Is 5. Carry Us All 6. Gas Panic 7. Where Did it all go Wrong? 8. Sunday morning Call 9. Let's All Make Believe 10. Roll It Over I really don't mind Little James at 5 either, its got a great vocal. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 13, 2014 8:36:46 GMT -5
I CAN SEE A LIAR........................
......................SITTING BY THE FIRE!
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Feb 13, 2014 8:44:27 GMT -5
1. Fuckin' In The Bushes
2. Go Let It Out
3. Who Feels Love?
4. Put Yer Money Where Yer Mouth Is
5. One Way Road
6. Gas Panic!
7. Where Did It All Go Wrong?
8. Let's All Make Believe
9. Roll It Over
Made this as a playlist on iTunes actually last week and it works damn well as an album. It doesn't matter that there's only nine tracks, it's still got some length to it at 44 minutes and it basically mirrors Let It Bleed by The Stones with track 6 and the closer both being over six minutes.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 13, 2014 10:45:49 GMT -5
1. Fuckin' In The Bushes 2. Go Let It Out 3. Who Feels Love? 4. Put Yer Money Where Yer Mouth Is 5. One Way Road 6. Gas Panic! 7. Where Did It All Go Wrong? 8. Let's All Make Believe 9. Roll It Over Made this as a playlist on iTunes actually last week and it works damn well as an album. It doesn't matter that there's only nine tracks, it's still got some length to it at 44 minutes and it basically mirrors Let It Bleed by The Stones with track 6 and the closer both being over six minutes. Nice mix. I always felt the original SOTSOG was always missing one key track. Ten songs was too few especially since Fucking In The Bushes was an instrumental and Noel sang two tracks. You have Liam Gallagher in the band.............unleash the beast! |
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Feb 13, 2014 11:44:29 GMT -5
1. Fuckin' In The Bushes 2. Go Let It Out 3. Who Feels Love? 4. Put Yer Money Where Yer Mouth Is 5. One Way Road 6. Gas Panic! 7. Where Did It All Go Wrong? 8. Let's All Make Believe 9. Roll It Over Made this as a playlist on iTunes actually last week and it works damn well as an album. It doesn't matter that there's only nine tracks, it's still got some length to it at 44 minutes and it basically mirrors Let It Bleed by The Stones with track 6 and the closer both being over six minutes. Nice mix. I always felt the original SOTSOG was always missing one key track. Ten songs was too few especially since Fucking In The Bushes was an instrumental and Noel sang two tracks. You have Liam Gallagher in the band.............unleash the beast! hahaha my thoughts exactly, especially with how Liam still sounded at this point, you can hear on Let's All Make Believe and Roll It Over those world famous pipes still in great condition but that's where Noel was at that point in time I suppose, writing solemn ballads reflecting on his the mental Morning Glory/Be Here Now years of drug use. This was really the only way I can see of spinning it, even at nine tracks it's still a bit heavy on the slower numbers but I think Oasis could have released this after Be Here Now and it would have been a great follow-up to their 90's work, no shockers with Little James and I Can See A Liar absent. Sure it'd have only been nine new tracks but had the boys not already given us enough over the last few years with three immense albums and more b-sides than you've had hot dinners? It's just consitency that was the issue with all their albums (bar DBTT perhaps) post Be Here Now |
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Post by warewolf95 on Feb 16, 2014 2:10:31 GMT -5
Hell, Joey Ramone only sang half of the last few Ramones album splitting duties with CJ, the bassist Nice to see another Ramones fan on here I really like SOTSOG as it is, bar a small tweaking. Here's what I'd do. 1. Fuckin in the Bushes 2. Go Let It Out 3. Who Feels Love? 4. Put Yer money Where Yer Mouth Is 5. Carry Us All 6. Gas Panic 7. Where Did it all go Wrong? 8. Sunday morning Call 9. Let's All Make Believe 10. Roll It Over I really don't mind Little James at 5 either, its got a great vocal. Not to get off topic, but while we're on the subject, I really think the Ramones later albums are unfairly criticized sometimes At least %75 of the time the songs were consistently good from one album to the next and I actually feel that all the various production flaws they were plagued with sometimes made the albums that much more interesting because they sounded differently from one another Adios Amigos is heavy as shit and is a damn good album. Mondo Bizarro as well. People complain that they got slick or were always trying to get a hit etc. etc., but old school rock and roll was their roots and their love and it never sounded out of place to me when they did "pop"-based songs (Pleasant Dreams album, She Belongs To Me, I Won't Let It Happen, etc.) Sucks that Animal Boy has such awful production - coulda been a great album, had good songs, kinda how End Of The Century was a bit butchered by Specter Ok, sorry bout that guys - he got me started on The Ramones and well.... |
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Post by mkoasis on Feb 16, 2014 16:05:07 GMT -5
Not to get off topic, but while we're on the subject, I really think the Ramones later albums are unfairly criticized sometimes At least %75 of the time the songs were consistently good from one album to the next and I actually feel that all the various production flaws they were plagued with sometimes made the albums that much more interesting because they sounded differently from one another Adios Amigos is heavy as shit and is a damn good album. Mondo Bizarro as well. People complain that they got slick or were always trying to get a hit etc. etc., but old school rock and roll was their roots and their love and it never sounded out of place to me when they did "pop"-based songs (Pleasant Dreams album, She Belongs To Me, I Won't Let It Happen, etc.) Sucks that Animal Boy has such awful production - coulda been a great album, had good songs, kinda how End Of The Century was a bit butchered by Specter Ok, sorry bout that guys - he got me started on The Ramones and well.... We're going to have to continue this in a PM. I thought I was the only big Ramones fan on here |
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