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Post by SlideAway on Mar 14, 2006 16:04:30 GMT -5
First off, I know that DGA was a single in Japan and was a radio single in the U.S. But I'm curious why they bothered to go ahead and shoot a cover for the single if it was a Japanese-only release. It seems to me like they must have at one point have planned to release it as a single back in '98 or so but in the end "couldn't be arsed". Maybe they just didn't want to get back into the studio to record some b-sides or they didn't want to do more promotion at that point. (I know that Japanese single had Sad Song and the Fade Away Warchild version on it - probably if it had been a UK single it would have had at least a couple new b-sides). I did find on a google search this page of old Oasis news from back in late '97/early '98... 07/03/98: Confirmed: 'Don't Go Away' Single
Don't Go Away will be oasis' forth single from their current album, Be Here Now. It was always probable as it was released in America as a Radio Single. The new single, out in May sometime, is set to feature another great 'Oasis Style' cover, it will depict a scene of the old Liverpool Airport with a Boeing 747 flying overhead. The plane was imported into the airport scene, it was actually photographed while flying over Heathrow Airport.
Click here to see the cover, scanned in by Paul Ferreri. A signed cover was given, by Noel, to the Cystic Fibrosis Association to auction off. It's signed by all the band and should raise a lot of money.
What b-sides will accompany the single is unknown but a strong possibility is Helter Skelter, a Beatles cover song. Others may include some songs left off Be Here Now, 'On My Own' to name but one. Also, it's rumoured that 'Flying High' will be on the single www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/4626/oldnews.htmThat's kind of interesting. Anybody know if those songs actually exist or if those were just rumors flying around? It's a pretty interesting page to look at actually. Apparently, Noel claimed he'd already written the 4th album in September 1997. Alan McGee backed him up, so I wonder what happened to those songs or if they were both just talking out of their ass? |
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Post by wassis on Mar 14, 2006 16:33:13 GMT -5
This is interesting. The only thing I notice is the song 'On My Own', which I haven't heard anything about before - could this be 'Sitting Here in Silence On My Own'? Or is it another song which has been released since Be Here Now with the lyrics 'on my own' and Noel's changed the title?
I love the sleeve of this single as well - it's made even more special by its rarity.
Also they made a video for DGA, which we know they all absolutely hate doing, so that's another reason why it does seem odd that it wasn't a worldwide single.
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Post by miekevandenberg on Mar 14, 2006 16:42:54 GMT -5
I've the promocd of Don't go away and the be here now promo the have nothing special
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Post by seanppp on Mar 14, 2006 18:10:53 GMT -5
I've never heard of "Flying High" either..
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Post by seven29pompeyfc on Mar 15, 2006 9:00:20 GMT -5
I think they did right in not releasing it. Despite its brilliance, Stand By Me wasn't that well received and i think the public were getting tired of Oasis ballads. Those B-Sides sound interesting though.
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Post by damonabnormal on Mar 15, 2006 19:19:21 GMT -5
Wasn't released in the UK due to the backlash happening to them at the time... the band were like if you don't like us then "fuck it" I recall Noel saying in a radio interview re this subj in '98. By the time it would have been out Be Here Now was sliding down the charts anyhow. In the US there was a ltd release of the single on CD format via VH1 for save the music, 500 copies with special artwork. (which was designed by fans and entered into a contest for the cd cover, very cool) The video was on US MTV a lot at the time in early 98. Good link re the single that never was...
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Post by Mr. Monobrow on Mar 15, 2006 19:46:19 GMT -5
First off, I know that DGA was a single in Japan and was a radio single in the U.S. But I'm curious why they bothered to go ahead and shoot a cover for the single if it was a Japanese-only release. It seems to me like they must have at one point have planned to release it as a single back in '98 or so but in the end "couldn't be arsed". Maybe they just didn't want to get back into the studio to record some b-sides or they didn't want to do more promotion at that point. (I know that Japanese single had Sad Song and the Fade Away Warchild version on it - probably if it had been a UK single it would have had at least a couple new b-sides). Well the song had been a US single previously, so the video was used for that. Good point about the single sleeve. Don't Go Away had been talked about as a UK single to be released on or around the 6th April. The sbuject is touched upon in Paolo Hewitt's book 'Forever The People: Six Months On The Road With Oasis' |
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Post by Mr. Monobrow on Mar 15, 2006 19:51:15 GMT -5
This is interesting. The only thing I notice is the song 'On My Own', which I haven't heard anything about before - could this be 'Sitting Here in Silence On My Own'? Or is it another song which has been released since Be Here Now with the lyrics 'on my own' and Noel's changed the title? From what I can work out, 'On My Own' came from an news report (possibly the NME) on the MTV Unplugged gig, stating that Noel had played a new song called 'On My Own'. That was obviously a reference to 'Listen Up', which was played then, but the track name seemed to stick, and was mentioned in various speculative articles leading up to the release of Be Here Now. I've certainly never heard Noel mention the track by name anyway. |
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Post by wankinginthebushes on Mar 15, 2006 20:20:34 GMT -5
The ever so helpful Monobrow, thanks
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Post by Mad4it on Mar 15, 2006 20:22:18 GMT -5
it should have been the 4th single no question about that.
i remember a rumour at the time saying that "magic pie" was a possible 4th single choice too.
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Post by Moorish on Mar 16, 2006 5:13:28 GMT -5
Should have been a single, is one of the best songs on BHN. Emotive and brilliant, and not massacred by OTT guitar noise and production.
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Post by ddsstretch on Mar 16, 2006 6:56:27 GMT -5
. In the US there was a ltd release of the single on CD format via VH1 for save the music, 500 copies with special artwork. (which was designed by fans and entered into a contest for the cd cover, very cool) I think that was actually All Around The World. I have the cd. |
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Post by Jago88 on Mar 16, 2006 13:49:31 GMT -5
it should have been the 4th single no question about that. i remember a rumour at the time saying that "magic pie" was a possible 4th single choice too. i rememeber reading in more than one place that i hope i tink i know was being released at some point |
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Post by SlideAway on Mar 23, 2006 15:44:30 GMT -5
Thanks, everybody. So it seems like what I guessed, although I guess none of us know for sure. Looks like they had clearly planned to but ditched it because of some combination of weariness, public backlash, or they just couldn't be arsed at that point. "On My Own" has been explained. Anybody know anything about "Flying High" - did Noel ever mention this song before?
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Post by supernovadragon on Mar 30, 2015 13:40:08 GMT -5
Forgive me for bumping this but... Just, reading this and been trying to find the article again maybe (obviously geocities no longer exist) but the one thing in the "article" that caught my eye was the supposed song title "Flying High" as it's such a funny coincidence seeing how Noel created High Flying Birds 11/12 years after the song supposedly got recorded lmao  |
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Post by tatomoon on Mar 30, 2015 15:30:32 GMT -5
It's a pretty interesting page to look at actually. Apparently, Noel claimed he'd already written the 4th album in September 1997. Alan McGee backed him up, so I wonder what happened to those songs or if they were both just talking out of their ass? Some of those tracks will have appeared on SOTSOG. The album was recorded in 1999, and Noel has stated previously I think that he wrote 'most' of it around the same time as Be Here Now. Gas Panic! and a couple of other tracks were probably new but I think much was written in 96/97, maybe even earlier. Of course, a lot of the tracks from 97 will have been binned, put out as B-sides or been on later albums. |
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Post by asimarx on Mar 30, 2015 15:51:18 GMT -5
It's a pretty interesting page to look at actually. Apparently, Noel claimed he'd already written the 4th album in September 1997. Alan McGee backed him up, so I wonder what happened to those songs or if they were both just talking out of their ass? Some of those tracks will have appeared on SOTSOG. The album was recorded in 1999, and Noel has stated previously I think that he wrote 'most' of it around the same time as Be Here Now. Gas Panic! and a couple of other tracks were probably new but I think much was written in 96/97, maybe even earlier. Of course, a lot of the tracks from 97 will have been binned, put out as B-sides or been on later albums. That's wrong. It had been documented many many times in interviews and books (by himself) that Noel had ran out of songs by the time the BHN tour had finished. He even spoke about this in a interview recently, saying he basically had the first three albums up his sleeve before they got signed (which is of course wrong as well, but you could trace songs and bits that had originally been written as early as 1992 up until BHN, after that point it stopped until Lock All The Doors). So he basically started from scratch in 1998, having abandoned cocaine as well. I think among the first songs he wrote, during the world cup 1998, was Gas Panic. There's a passage in Paolo Hewitt's book "Forever The People" describing this and if course the unreleased demotape from 1998 that was sold two years ago, including the unreleased "For One So Young." |
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Post by supernovadragon on Mar 30, 2015 16:13:26 GMT -5
Some of those tracks will have appeared on SOTSOG. The album was recorded in 1999, and Noel has stated previously I think that he wrote 'most' of it around the same time as Be Here Now. Gas Panic! and a couple of other tracks were probably new but I think much was written in 96/97, maybe even earlier. Of course, a lot of the tracks from 97 will have been binned, put out as B-sides or been on later albums. That's wrong. It had been documented many many times in interviews and books (by himself) that Noel had ran out of songs by the time the BHN tour had finished. He even spoke about this in a interview recently, saying he basically had the first three albums up his sleeve before they got signed (which is of course wrong as well, but you could trace songs and bits that had originally been written as early as 1992 up until BHN, after that point it stopped until Lock All The Doors). So he basically started from scratch in 1998, having abandoned cocaine as well. I think among the first songs he wrote, during the world cup 1998, was Gas Panic. There's a passage in Paolo Hewitt's book "Forever The People" describing this and if course the unreleased demotape from 1998 that was sold two years ago, including the unreleased "For One So Young." "For One So Young" has to be leaked out at some point one day..surely? |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 30, 2015 16:14:56 GMT -5
Should have been the lead USA single off Be Here Now. Americans were dying for another Wonderall style song. It was only releases in October 1997. Too late to change the albums commercial course. Oh well.
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Post by Gas Panic on Mar 30, 2015 16:16:38 GMT -5
That's wrong. It had been documented many many times in interviews and books (by himself) that Noel had ran out of songs by the time the BHN tour had finished. He even spoke about this in a interview recently, saying he basically had the first three albums up his sleeve before they got signed (which is of course wrong as well, but you could trace songs and bits that had originally been written as early as 1992 up until BHN, after that point it stopped until Lock All The Doors). So he basically started from scratch in 1998, having abandoned cocaine as well. I think among the first songs he wrote, during the world cup 1998, was Gas Panic. There's a passage in Paolo Hewitt's book "Forever The People" describing this and if course the unreleased demotape from 1998 that was sold two years ago, including the unreleased "For One So Young." "For One So Young" has to be leaked out at some point one day..surely? So annoying we actually had a chance of getting hold of that tape and we let it slip through our fingers! Didn't the guy want something crazy like £5000 or something? |
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Post by AdidasNG72 on Mar 30, 2015 16:42:46 GMT -5
I bought the DGA single years ago. Very nice cover too.
I think this obviously was supposed to be the 4th single. It would keep in line with the other 2 albums, but Noel ran out of steam and couldn't write any more B sides during this period. Assuming they'd stick on Helter Skelter as one of the tracks, he'd still need to write another 2.
Wasn't Revolution Song written during this era? That would have been a nice B side for the DGA single.
If this had been the first single instead of DYKWIM, I think it would have done wonders for the popularity of the album, as the song would have taken off in the same way Wonderwall did, in both the UK and the US.
And Stay Young should have been the second single. This would have been seen as another Some Might Say.
Whoever was in charge of making these commercial decisions at Creation during this time should have been shot (I'm guessing it was a coked up Noel)..... |
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Post by asimarx on Mar 30, 2015 16:46:32 GMT -5
"For One So Young" has to be leaked out at some point one day..surely? No, it didn't unfortunately. It was sold by Rob from the Britpop Store in early 2013. There's different accounts on where he originally had obtained that tape from, who has been the actual buyer and who currently owns it. However, as you probably know, joakim (from oasisarchive.com) was able to obtain the first track from that cassette, a Noel-sung demo of Let's All Make Believe, and he was kind enough to share it early last year. Here's a picture of that tape: monobrowdemos.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/bahfar_cyaal7fh-large.jpg(thanks to Mr. Monobrow as usual!) However, there are short clips (~30 secs) from another unreleased SOTSOG demo cd, recorded later in the recording process and made at Olympic Studios on 16th February 1999, circulating. Note that all these versions are probably the same as the demos that had leaked before the album's release (even Idler's Dream sounds the same as the b-side version judging by the snippet), with the exception of the two versions of One Way Road. The instrumental version was used as an intro song at an 2003 acoustic gig in Liverpool, where Noel famously premiered Stop The Clocks. A picture of the cd and tracklist as follows: monobrowdemos.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/oasis-99-demo-2.jpgKeep your fingers crossed for a SOTSOG reissue one day! Noel has at least mentioned that he would like to reissue the post-BHN albums (while that one still isn't officially confirmed...) as well in a japanese interview recently... |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 16:50:10 GMT -5
1. Don't Go Away
2. You've Got To Hide Your Love Away
3. Some Might Say (Demo)
4. Sad Song
Could have been a good track listing for the single. Tracks 2 and 3 were unavailable outside of Japan at the time and Sad Song wasn't too well known either so I doubt anyone would have minded it being on the CD.
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Post by kennerado on Mar 30, 2015 20:28:21 GMT -5
The sad fact is, this song should of been the first single. It was the Wonderwall of BHN and would of put the band in a good position in the US.
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Post by wozdareden on Mar 30, 2015 21:48:26 GMT -5
You don't release ballads first. You get the more uplifting ones before, the rockier, the faster. Ballads come after.
If DGA would have been released first, everbody would scream "oh no, not another Wonderwall".
D'you Know What I Mean ? was the best choice to do.
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