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Post by manicsfan on Jul 30, 2013 6:34:11 GMT -5
Tom Waits only in at 26? lolz
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Post by eva on Jul 30, 2013 6:45:48 GMT -5
Noel should be higher on that list if you ask me, but these lists are always ridiculous. Of course most people would disagree. Many are missing from that Top 10 at least, like George Harrison or Johnny Cash.
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Post by Teotihuacan on Jul 30, 2013 6:48:21 GMT -5
^^^ Robbie was recording Clairvoyant in the same LA studio when Oasis were recording DOYS and they ran into each other according to Noel in a 2008 NME interview, pretty cool.
Queen number three?...no, good lord no.
Excellent to see Joni Mitchell rank relatively high.
And Pet Sounds, Wilson didn't write it entirely, half of most of the tunes were co-wriiten by Tony Asher because Wilson had problems with lyrics, Noel talked trash about this particularly in the NME:
"They didn’t even write their own lyrics. End of fucking story. Geezer who writes the tunes didn’t write the words? And the rest of them didn’t play on the records? Fuck off, they’re shit! We use it as an insult. Fuck off you Beach Boy. Mark Beaumont’s a Beach Boy! There’s plenty of Beach Boys at NME.”
Even when he's wrong Noel is fucking hilarious.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2013 6:49:48 GMT -5
I like Nirvana but just fuck off, I'm so sick of everyone sucking Cobain's dick just because he killed himself, it's not cool either kids, people should be admired for facing and overcoming their problems not just giving up. Noel is also criminally underrated (probably by people who have only ever heard Oasis's singles/album tracks from their most popular albums) He should be second behind Lennon McCartney
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Post by ruchin on Jul 30, 2013 6:53:36 GMT -5
Also Ray Davies is a better songwriter than Noel.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jul 30, 2013 7:08:53 GMT -5
Ray Davies should be on the list,but I don't think he's better,just my opinion However should be really good for Noel being considered as good as his idols as a songwriter,it is a fantastic thing
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2013 7:13:14 GMT -5
Also no other artists on there minus Lennon/McCartney can boast a collection as good as this (ignoring Songbird)
AND that doesn't include any of his hidden gems wasted on B sides or bonus tracks or even lesser known album tracks like Gas Panic etc or even his best stuff off HFB or unreleased greats like The Dying Of The Light.
I know it's just a readers list but it's the same everywhere and even on here most of the time, Noel is so underrated!
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jul 30, 2013 7:22:20 GMT -5
Oh Weller is in the list I like the fact that the website says "everything he touched turned to gold included a run of phenomenal b-sides that cemebted the legend" Those b-sides really say how amazing Noel is as a songwriter,it's a shame they're not to famous,The Masterplan (the song) should be a classic
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Post by manicsfan on Jul 30, 2013 7:32:14 GMT -5
Bob Dylan should really be number 1 rather than number 2.
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Post by ruchin on Jul 30, 2013 7:37:49 GMT -5
Wow people on here don't really have a balanced view.Bowie, Weller, The Stones, The Kinks and The Who all have a stronger back catalogue than Noel in my opinion.
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Post by manicsfan on Jul 30, 2013 7:40:25 GMT -5
Wow people on here don't really have a balanced view.Bowie, Weller, The Stones, The Kinks and The Who all have a stronger back catalogue than Noel in my opinion. Along with Tom Waits, Springsteen and Neil Young. Noel is brilliant but not to Dylan or Waits standards.
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Post by Underneath the sky on Jul 30, 2013 7:40:37 GMT -5
I love Noel's songwriting but above Bowie, Wilson (Noel hasn't come close to writing anything as Genius as Pet Sounds) and Page/Plant rewrote Rock N Roll. Very questionable list. Cobain and Gallagher should have been placed at the bottom two. ABOVE Bowie and Zepplin shocking. What about Radiohead??? That to me is the most laughable one, not whether Noel deserves to be there!?!?!? This list is absolute bollocks for that reason alone, never mind Cobain and Gallagher. Whats the world coming to, fucking hell. Paranoid Android, Fake Plastic Trees, 15 Steps, Let Down, No Surprises, Karma Police, High and Dry to name a few. I'm not a massive Radiohead fan but they definitely deserve their place in the list for me.
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Post by ruchin on Jul 30, 2013 7:46:54 GMT -5
Wow people on here don't really have a balanced view.Bowie, Weller, The Stones, The Kinks and The Who all have a stronger back catalogue than Noel in my opinion. Along with Tom Waits, Springsteen and Neil Young. Noel is brilliant but not to Dylan or Waits standards. Yeah Dylan and Springsteen are already above Noel on the list so i didn't name them.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jul 30, 2013 7:51:43 GMT -5
Wow people on here don't really have a balanced view.Bowie, Weller, The Stones, The Kinks and The Who all have a stronger back catalogue than Noel in my opinion. Fuckin hell,Noel is 46!!!!
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Post by manicsfan on Jul 30, 2013 7:53:59 GMT -5
I'd have Jason Pierce ahead of Noel as well.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jul 30, 2013 7:58:41 GMT -5
I'd rate Andy Bell above Noel ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/1258801/images/A9bL_RjIN9bOhnrQxKjN.gif)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2013 8:28:10 GMT -5
Wow people on here don't really have a balanced view.Bowie, Weller, The Stones, The Kinks and The Who all have a stronger back catalogue than Noel in my opinion. Fuckin hell,Noel is 46!!!! Paul Weller is only 9 years older and he's made pop, funk, punk, soul records and so has experimented with different genres of music much more than Noel as well as being much more prolific having written 18 albums by the time he was 46 compared to Noel who's written only 8 albums and the Masterplan of course. Same can be said for Bowie. Although I still think Noel compares well to both Bowie and Weller, they probably edge Noel in that they've experimented a bit and varied there music. That's why Noel has to ditch Sardy and try something different imo if he is to take his writing up to the next level
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jul 30, 2013 8:40:29 GMT -5
Fuckin hell,Noel is 46!!!! Paul Weller is only 9 years older and he's made pop, funk, punk, soul records and so has experimented with different genres of music much more than Noel as well as being much more prolific having written 18 albums by the time he was 46 compared to Noel who's written only 8 albums and the Masterplan of course. Same can be said for Bowie. Although I still think Noel compares well to both Bowie and Weller, they probably edge Noel in that they've experimented a bit and varied there music. That's why Noel has to ditch Sardy and try something different imo if he is to take his writing up to the next level True,I mean he's around the world of music since the 70s What I'm trying to say is that Noel is not considered with all the legend cos he's still at the centre of his career,he's just started being a solo artist after Oasis,he's where Weller was a lot of time ago,this happens in the music like football and all those things,if you ask me Noel is as talented as all the others,but they're musical legends,Noel will be ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by ruchin on Jul 30, 2013 9:10:04 GMT -5
Wow people on here don't really have a balanced view.Bowie, Weller, The Stones, The Kinks and The Who all have a stronger back catalogue than Noel in my opinion. Fuckin hell,Noel is 46!!!! Noel peak is behind him, along with most/ if not all of the other artists. If you compare the peak of their work than Noel is behind all the other artists i mentioned.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jul 30, 2013 9:17:46 GMT -5
Fuckin hell,Noel is 46!!!! Noel peak is behind him, along with most/ if not all of the other artists. If you compare the peak of their work than Noel is behind all the other artists i mentioned. I don't think so,I consider Live forever,DLBIA,Wonderwall,The Masterplan,CS,Slide away up with the all time classics and WTSMG and DM two of the best albums ever,surely some artists are above him,but he's up with the best,that's just my opinion of course ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by dreamweaver on Jul 30, 2013 9:19:01 GMT -5
I still believe noel can have a second wind here, if Brand and Icke can get into his head about all the things they are into then this could open Noels eyes again to some new material. less of the Buzz words and more something he has real passion in, go on lad
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2013 9:29:22 GMT -5
www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/the-56-greatest-songwriters-of-all-time-580842/1MusicRadar’s top 15 songwriters 1. John Lennon & Paul McCartney 2. Bob Dylan 3. Queen 4. Neil Young 5. Kurt Cobain 6. Bruce Springsteen 7. Roger Waters & David Gilmour 8. Noel Gallagher 9. Radiohead 10. David Bowie 11. Paul Simon 12. Jimmy Page & Robert Plant 13. Brian Wilson 14. Morrissey & Johnny Marr 15. Joni Mitchell No major arguments with list at all ... But think page plant / should be higher than queen .. But that's just me i k ow how much more popular queen are in UK than here . But I do have a issue with waters / Gilmour. At least Lennon / macca collaborated with bits and phrases on each others tunes sometimes, but waters / gilmoure ? .. I remember a direct interview with waters after he left floyd talking a out final cut he said it really was a solo lp , and as for the wall he said he presented the band with 3 " operas " they voted and chose what would be the wall ....then roger said " smart boys " was a radio interview with the late great scot muni on wnew ny .. .. Don't think they should be a team like Lennon/ macca. Page / plant IMO
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Post by WirralRiddler on Jul 30, 2013 9:30:34 GMT -5
Wow people on here don't really have a balanced view.Bowie, Weller, The Stones, The Kinks and The Who all have a stronger back catalogue than Noel in my opinion. Highlighted the important bit for you mate. Personally id take Noels complete back catalogue above all of those. Its all about opinions i guess, there is no right or wrong, which sort of makes discussing it kinda pointless, but wheres the fun in that, eh? And as for songwriting ability i personally would have Alex Turner in my top ten, no doubt about it.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jul 30, 2013 9:38:59 GMT -5
Agree about Turner personally,but for him is the same as Noel,is time that build legends (fuckin hell,that's what I wanted to say!)
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Post by Bruno on Jul 30, 2013 10:11:57 GMT -5
www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/the-56-greatest-songwriters-of-all-time-580842/1MusicRadar’s top 15 songwriters 1. John Lennon & Paul McCartney 2. Bob Dylan 3. Queen 4. Neil Young 5. Kurt Cobain 6. Bruce Springsteen 7. Roger Waters & David Gilmour 8. Noel Gallagher 9. Radiohead 10. David Bowie 11. Paul Simon 12. Jimmy Page & Robert Plant 13. Brian Wilson 14. Morrissey & Johnny Marr 15. Joni Mitchell No major arguments with list at all ... But think page plant / should be higher than queen .. But that's just me i k ow how much more popular queen are in UK than here . But I do have a issue with waters / Gilmour. At least Lennon / macca collaborated with bits and phrases on each others tunes sometimes, but waters / gilmoure ? .. I remember a direct interview with waters after he left floyd talking a out final cut he said it really was a solo lp , and as for the wall he said he presented the band with 3 " operas " they voted and chose what would be the wall ....then roger said " smart boys " was a radio interview with the late great scot muni on wnew ny .. .. Don't think they should be a team like Lennon/ macca. Page / plant IMO Waters was the main lyricist ofcourse but Gilmour contributed a lot to the music. All early albums, Dark side, Wish You Were Here and to some extent Animals were all team efforts. After that they went their separate ways. Though their last combined effort Comfortably Numb is also a masterpiece. ![8-)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/cool.png) So as much as Waters contributed lyrically, his genius would have been incomplete without Gilmour's contribution.
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