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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2013 9:17:35 GMT -5
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Post by endstation on Jul 18, 2013 9:46:55 GMT -5
Nope. That was not my point at all. Of course your'e not supposed to sound exactly the same. But if you are a singer you are supposed to sing. And Liam can't sing anymore.Really? Yes. There are a couple of songs from this acoustic gig at the beginning of the tour that sound alright. Especially when he doesn't have to reach any high notes, like in the video you posted. But he still sounds weak and mostly too nasal in that session. Liam cannot sing anymore. End of discussion. A couple of weak and nasal but quite decent performances doesn't change this fact. 95% of the time he is crap.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Jul 18, 2013 10:10:49 GMT -5
FFS,all Liam would have to do is tweet to let us know what's up. W Liam doesn't owe us anything...it's a private matter that has spilled into the media. Frankly, it's none of our business if he had an affair, now has a daughter, or if his relationship with is wife is suffering. Then I guess its true. Private or not, bullshit lies are bullshit lies and should be called out. But quite frankly, it IS my business. I'll stick my nose wherever I please.
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Post by KRRRRRRR on Jul 18, 2013 10:17:53 GMT -5
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Post by KRRRRRRR on Jul 18, 2013 10:30:20 GMT -5
edit: apologies didnt see the massive thread in the other forum about this, my bad
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Post by Bruno on Jul 18, 2013 10:33:26 GMT -5
Liam doesn't owe us anything...it's a private matter that has spilled into the media. Frankly, it's none of our business if he had an affair, now has a daughter, or if his relationship with is wife is suffering. Then I guess its true. Private or not, bullshit lies are bullshit lies and should be called out. But quite frankly, it IS my business. I'll stick my nose wherever I please. Grow up.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Jul 18, 2013 10:36:06 GMT -5
Then I guess its true. Private or not, bullshit lies are bullshit lies and should be called out. But quite frankly, it IS my business. I'll stick my nose wherever I please. Grow up. Already did that. Got any other insults?
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Post by Bruno on Jul 18, 2013 10:37:13 GMT -5
Grow up. Already did that. Got any other insults? No, just a reaction to your reply to gdforever.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Jul 18, 2013 10:38:13 GMT -5
Already did that. Got any other insults? No, just a reaction to your reply to gdforever. Do you support free will? Freedom of any sort?
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Post by Bruno on Jul 18, 2013 10:40:26 GMT -5
No, just a reaction to your reply to gdforever. Do you support free will? Freedom of any sort? I really have no idea what you're on about. It's Liam's life and problems. Let him deal with it. Your 'it IS my business' post seemed very odd to me that's all. Not really interested in debating this. I follow Liam for his music, his personal life I don't care much about because it really is none of our business.
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Post by squarewave on Jul 18, 2013 10:42:12 GMT -5
There are a lot of ,frankly, delusional people here. Mr. Gallagher isn't your family or friend, he's a singer you all project your fantasies upon. He owes you no explanation, he's not going to twitter about this to ease your little minds.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Jul 18, 2013 10:46:19 GMT -5
Do you support free will? Freedom of any sort? I really have no idea what you're on about. It's Liam's life and problems. Let him deal with it. Your 'it IS my business' post seemed very odd to me that's all. Not really interested in debating this. I follow Liam for his music, his personal life I don't care much about because it really is none of our business. GDforever said "Frankly, it's none of our business if he had an affair, now has a daughter, or if his relationship with is wife is suffering." And his entire post was negative towards my comment and implies that its not my business. It is my free will to make it my business and nobody is going to tell me otherwise. This news has some importance to me, I would like to know whether or not it s true. You may not care about his personal life and that is fine. But respect that others might and don't chastise them for their interest being caught. Liam will deal with his problems regardless of anythign we say or learn about this so what does it matter?
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Jul 18, 2013 10:50:29 GMT -5
There are a lot of ,frankly, delusional people here. Mr. Gallagher isn't your family or friend, he's a singer you all project your fantasies upon. He owes you no explanation, he's not going to twitter about this to ease your little minds. Look at it this way. If this woman is spouting bullshit and Liam has sort of played along with it for the sake of publicity. It makes him an ass. If I were famous and caught in some kind of scandal that I didn't do, I would let the fans know that its bullshit. Its how you keep face. If it is true, he's still something of an ass for trying to cover it up.
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Post by olesiadudnik on Jul 18, 2013 11:24:30 GMT -5
Liam doesn't owe us anything...it's a private matter that has spilled into the media. Frankly, it's none of our business if he had an affair, now has a daughter, or if his relationship with is wife is suffering. Then I guess its true. Private or not, bullshit lies are bullshit lies and should be called out. But quite frankly, it IS my business. I'll stick my nose wherever I please. Of course for dear gdforever, "it's none of our business" is a reassuring rhetoric (as in, say, running a classified ad for oneself as a babysitter and putting 'DON'T WORRY-- NOT A PEDOPHILE' at the bottom of the ad) rather than a self-imposed dictation. As we can well see and dare interpret in the particular post of hers below (in this thread, no less): So a man should never have any responsibility towards a child that he accidentally conceives unless he is married to the mother? All he has to do is say that he doesn't want the baby and he can pretend that the child doesn't even exist. No fuss, no muss. If that were the case every man would just say they didn't want the baby that is conceived and every single mother would be left in the cold or have an abortion?
It's all well and good that you think that abortion is no big deal...but not everyone views abortion as a simple birth control option. And no man should be able to financially pressure a woman to have one IMO. Frankly that is her right as the one that has to carry the baby...sucks to be the man with the dick that only gets the option to prevent the baby happening once (before he sticks his dick in) but such is life. He wouldn't be the one putting his body through the trauma and risk of an abortion...so she gets to make that decision.
And even if she is being a mercenary. Why should the child that results from the union have to suffer for her decision not to abort it for whatever reason.
I don't know the woman from Eve. She could be a mercenary groupie. She could have been drunk and they made a bad decision together. She could have just been a woman who fancied Liam and got swept up by the thrill. But either way it's not the child's fault. And that if who paternity suit are supposed to be about. It's not about Liam...it's not about this woman.
It's about an innocent baby who's had no choice in this at all and his fate is being decided.
No one forced Liam to have sex with this woman. That decision was all on him. Now if he has to pay up...such is life.
Frankly Liam can afford to pay another child support. No way is this lady getting 3 million. They always settle for less. It always seems to be more a bartering system in the legal system. Ask for too much then settle for a more reasonable amount. I just hope the lump sum gets put aside for college/university.
As for his and Nicole's relationship. I hope they can salvage it for their children's sake. I think he made a mistake but he isn't fundamentally a bad man. Sucks if his personal life falls apart over this mistake. Some women can't forgive infidelity...some can. It's their business though....So yes, you can see the trailing "It's their business though" is merely, for all intents and purposes, complicit (for them...and for her).
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Post by Bruno on Jul 18, 2013 11:38:38 GMT -5
I really have no idea what you're on about. It's Liam's life and problems. Let him deal with it. Your 'it IS my business' post seemed very odd to me that's all. Not really interested in debating this. I follow Liam for his music, his personal life I don't care much about because it really is none of our business. GDforever said "Frankly, it's none of our business if he had an affair, now has a daughter, or if his relationship with is wife is suffering." And his entire post was negative towards my comment and implies that its not my business. It is my free will to make it my business and nobody is going to tell me otherwise. This news has some importance to me, I would like to know whether or not it s true. You may not care about his personal life and that is fine. But respect that others might and don't chastise them for their interest being caught. Liam will deal with his problems regardless of anythign we say or learn about this so what does it matter? I never told you you can't make it your business or whatever. I just gave my opinion on it. And that is my free will.
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Post by gdforever on Jul 18, 2013 11:49:12 GMT -5
Liam doesn't owe us anything...it's a private matter that has spilled into the media. Frankly, it's none of our business if he had an affair, now has a daughter, or if his relationship with is wife is suffering. Then I guess its true. Private or not, bullshit lies are bullshit lies and should be called out. But quite frankly, it IS my business. I'll stick my nose wherever I please. I'm just saying that we can't really expect that Liam is going to tweet to let us know what is going on because we are the least of his concerns I am sure. Plus it's a legal case now. Regardless of whether it is true or not. You can make it your business if you want i guess. But I'm puzzle by you expecting Liam Gallagher to play along with us doing so and keeping the twitterverse in the loop. I didn't comment on any of the other comments discussing it. I even put my two cents in (more in a theoretical what rights should illegitimate babies but still) I only commented because your "how is he not going on twitter to let us know what is going on" seems to be expecting a bit too much intimacy from a celebrity.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Jul 18, 2013 11:50:49 GMT -5
GDforever said "Frankly, it's none of our business if he had an affair, now has a daughter, or if his relationship with is wife is suffering." And his entire post was negative towards my comment and implies that its not my business. It is my free will to make it my business and nobody is going to tell me otherwise. This news has some importance to me, I would like to know whether or not it s true. You may not care about his personal life and that is fine. But respect that others might and don't chastise them for their interest being caught. Liam will deal with his problems regardless of anythign we say or learn about this so what does it matter? I never told you you can't make it your business or whatever. I just gave my opinion on it. And that is my free will. Duly noted.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Jul 18, 2013 11:55:04 GMT -5
Then I guess its true. Private or not, bullshit lies are bullshit lies and should be called out. But quite frankly, it IS my business. I'll stick my nose wherever I please. I'm just saying that we can't really expect that Liam is going to tweet to let us know what is going on because we are the least of his concerns I am sure. Plus it's a legal case now. Regardless of whether it is true or not. You can make it your business if we want. But I puzzle by you expecting Liam Gallagher to play along with us doing so and keeping the twitterverse in the loop. First and second point is fair. But, its Liam Gallagher. The guy who always sported the "Don't care attitude." The guy who will tell it like it is no matter how much shite it gets him into. I find it odd that he is keeping us all in the dark about it when normally he will run his mouth. The media has made a huge deal about this and I think it is safe to say that we are all expecting follow up.
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Post by Ash & Debris on Jul 18, 2013 12:03:10 GMT -5
I think this sums it up even better: Liam 1: Liam 2: Oh yeah cos I completely forgot that all singers are supposed to sound the exact same as they did twenty years ago... Why not compare it to the recent Abbey Road performance? No, you have to compare it to one of the only bad sounding gigs he's done since the end of 2009. Classic troll. Posters like you sicken me, same goes for that Ash & Debris - another complete fuckwit. You both waste your time coming to this forum only to insult the guy it's devoted to. How sad is that? This forum isn't devoted to Liam Gallagher, not at all. It's devoted to Oasis, and the guy who wrote the songs for that band is named Noel Gallagher, not Liam.
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Post by jordan71421 on Jul 18, 2013 12:10:38 GMT -5
Haha it was weird seeing him on the papers at work this morning, none of my business though, I hope this is false but if it's true, who am I to judge him?
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Post by gdforever on Jul 18, 2013 12:14:54 GMT -5
I'm just saying that we can't really expect that Liam is going to tweet to let us know what is going on because we are the least of his concerns I am sure. Plus it's a legal case now. Regardless of whether it is true or not. You can make it your business if we want. But I puzzle by you expecting Liam Gallagher to play along with us doing so and keeping the twitterverse in the loop. First and second point is fair. But, its Liam Gallagher. The guy who always sported the "Don't care attitude." The guy who will tell it like it is no matter how much shite it gets him into. I find it odd that he is keeping us all in the dark about it when normally he will run his mouth. The media has made a huge deal about this and I think it is safe to say that we are all expecting follow up. Sadly I don't think it's over if he true is the star involved in the suit. The shit is only just hitting the fan. It affects his children and his wife. I think he's probably listening to his handlers more than he would otherwise. Maybe it's true and he truly did have an affair with this woman for years. And if he did would you really expect him to admit that on twitter. His existing children are old enough to read and it would be even more embarrassing for his wife. If it's all lies and he'd never even met the woman and there was 0 chance of him being the father I think you are right he probably would have tweeted something like "BULLOCKS". But who knows what goes through Liam's head. He's a sporadic twitter user at best.
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Post by thedon on Jul 18, 2013 12:21:29 GMT -5
I reckon he told Nicole about it before the story emerged. Maybe months and months ago. Dunno why, just got a hunch.
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Post by gdforever on Jul 18, 2013 12:22:28 GMT -5
I reckon he told Nicole about it before the story emerged. Maybe months and months ago. Dunno why, just got a hunch. Probably true. But knowing something privately is different from it being on the tabloid covers.
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Post by durk on Jul 18, 2013 12:37:51 GMT -5
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Post by pphillipsukuk on Jul 18, 2013 13:08:37 GMT -5
Don't know why but it always makes me chuckle when you read a story like that and it ends in an advertisement for the tour in November
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